2023 Mock Draft Thread

[Boltx]

lookin' for lemons in this draft, and can't say I see many if any early, as the first coupla few that might be the case are guys like.... Dawand Jones and/or Adetowima Adebawore, and maybe a Luke Musgrave and/or Cody Mauch ?? lookin' like a pretty solid top 50 or so....

It's Telesco we're talking about, though, and we have a decade of draft data so the apprehension is understandable.

[ghost]

Josh Downs

Filthy. This is my favorite route of the 2022 season.

[gzubeck]

Josh Downs

Filthy. This is my favorite route of the 2022 season.

And then the QB throws it in the dirt. This would not happen with Herbert. LOL!

[beachcomber]

mulling things over, and for the possibility that the both of Kincaid 'n Bijan are off the board, really zeroing in on O'Cyrus.... given we sign the both of Callahan 'n Van Noy, then the Oline becomes the most pressing need by my account, and.... think we're much better off letting Jamaree learn the center position in preseason, and for the if and when Linsley and/or Pipkins goes down for any amount of time, that we can move Salyer outside or in, depending on who is down, and then slide Torrence in @RG.... that would really help solidify the depth on our Line, and that we are inevitably gonna need.

is there a center and guard available day three where we can feel confident about them backing up and starting when need be.... their first year outta the gate ??

[dmac_bolt]

mulling things over, and for the possibility that the both of Kincaid 'n Bijan are off the board, really zeroing in on O'Cyrus.... given we sign the both of Callahan 'n Van Noy, then the Oline becomes the most pressing need by my account, and.... think we're much better off letting Jamaree learn the center position in preseason, and for the if and when Linsley and/or Pipkins goes down for any amount of time, that we can move Salyer outside or in, depending on who is down, and then slide Torrence in @RG.... that would really help solidify the depth on our Line, and that we are inevitably gonna need.

is there a center and guard available day three where we can feel confident about them backing up and starting when need be.... their first year outta the gate ??

Salyer doesn’t strike me as prototypical Center player at all, what do others think?

Juice

[ghost]

https://firstroundmock.com/2023/03/a...ntin-johnston/

Quentin Johnston

TCU wide receiver Quentin Johnston played in the biggest game of his college football career against Georgia, in the National Championship Game (game film available here).

What happened?

TCU got destroyed 65-7 by Georgia.

What happened to Johnston, who is being projected by over 85% of NFL Draft platforms to be a first-round selection in the upcoming 2023 NFL Draft?

He completely disappeared.

It was the biggest game for his school since 1938 (the last time TCU won a National Championship), and Johnston completely disappeared.

Johnston’s stat line: 1 catch for 3 yards on 3 targets.

Don’t big-time players make big-time plays in big-time games?

That’s the idea, but Johnston wasn’t able to get open when it mattered most. What happened?

I went back and watched the game film, and what happened was Georgia got aggressive with Johnston.

This TCU 2023 NFL Draft prospect just could not shake the Bulldogs’ pass coverage scheme.

Georgia got physical with him, and he had nothing for a response.

Johnston couldn’t get separation and he bogged down when Georgia got physical with him.

Is this concerning?

I believe it’s a lot more concerning than anyone is talking about.

It feels like everyone just wants to sweep this under the rug and get Johnston mocked into the first round and get on with it.

Not so fast.

I never had Johnston mocked into the first round to begin with. In my previous articles, “There is One Big Problem with TCU Receiver Quentin Johnston,” and “Former NFL Scout Points Out Concerns About Quentin Johnston,” I had a second to third round grade on him.

There were too many inconsistencies in previous evaluations.

Now, after disappearing against Georgia, we are supposed to believe Johnston is going to have an easier time getting open in the NFL?

Does that make logical sense?

You had better believe every team in the NFL who lines up against Johnston is going to be aware of how Georgia shut him down, and the scouting report will get out there.

“Get physical with Johnston, get in his face, play press-man, and challenge the hell out of him.” Wait this is a pattern?

It’s not just the Georgia game either.

He had four “big games” (over 100 yards receiving in a game) in 2022. Outside of that, he was held to four or fewer catches in 10 games during the season.

What happened in 2022?

Colorado 3 catches, 22 yards, 0 TD

Tarleton 2 catches, 22 yards, 0 TD

SMU 3 catches, 29 yards, 0 TD

Oklahoma 4 catches, 41 yards, 0 TD

Texas 3 catches, 66 yards, 1 TD

Baylor 4 catches, 48 yards, 0 TD

What happened in 2021?

Duquesne 4 catches, 38 yards, 0 TD

Texas 3 catches, 37 yards, 0 TD

Kansas State 2 catches, 5 yards, 0 TD

Oklahoma State 2 catches, -3 yards, 0 TD

What happened in 2020?

Iowa State 2 catches, 50 yards, 1 TD

Oklahoma 4 catches, 40 yards, 0 TD

Baylor 3 catches, 64 yards, 0 TD

Texas Tech 1 catch, 1 yard, 0 TD

West Virginia 1 catch, 15 yards, 0 TD

That’s 15 games in the past three seasons in addition to the Georgia National Championship Game when Johnston turned in a flat performance. There are more concerns?

Believe it or not – – yes.

In three years at TCU Johnston has caught 115 passes on 201 targets (57% catch rate). Bottom line

The numbers don’t lie.

What are the numbers telling us?

Johnston has an established pattern of being an up-and-down receiver and he only catches about half of the passes thrown in his direction.

From a value standpoint, Johnston is a risky third-round pick.

The third round is a round where teams take talented prospects with high developmental upside. The third-round recognizes his high-level raw size and athleticism that stands out on game film while mitigating the illustrated risks.

The huge concern now becomes how this background translates going up to an even higher level of competition against NFL secondaries?

I personally don’t see this pattern improving. If anything, it has a good chance of becoming an even greater problem due to the level of competition becoming more difficult.
- Daniel Kelly

[gzubeck]

Wide Receiver in the first is a wasted Pick IMHO if there is a very good edge player on the board or Premier CB/DB there as well. I would say 50% of receivers taken in the first are failure vs. 80% of CB taken there are very good to great.

[wu-dai clan]

Now that we are within 10 days of the Draft,
and
now that we have all killed each other by death from a thousand spitballs, ...

it is time to get serious.

Tell me those mocks you've been posting are just a joke.

Tell me you've spent more than 30 seconds looking at Quentin Johnston video.
BTW Bleacher Report just mocked him to DET @ #18.

Tell me you know who Brenton Strange is, and realize what a perfect fit he is for Kellen Moore.
BTW Kiper just mocked him to LAC @ #54.

Don't burn out NOW.
It is time to dig deeper.

[gzubeck]

Now that we are within 10 days of the Draft,
and
now that we have all killed each other by death from a thousand spitballs, ...

it is time to get serious.

Tell me those mocks you've been posting are just a joke.
Tell me you've spent more than 30 seconds looking at Quentin Johnston video.
BTW Bleacher Report just mocked him to @ #10.

Tell me you know who Brenton Strange is, and realize what a perfect fit he is for Kellen Moore.
BTW Kiper just mocked him to LAC @ #54.

Don't burn out NOW.
It is time to dig deeper.

1) Myles Murphy at 21
2) Roshon Johnson at 54
3) Marvin Mims/Cedric Tillman/Josh downs with 85th pick
4) KJ Henry
4) Traded Eckler for another pick and draft Sean Tucker/Zach Evans
5) BPA for offensive line

After that don't care..

[beachcomber]

if you dig just a little bit deeper, you'll find that QJ has a QBR of just over 100, and while Hyatt has a QBR of just shy of 150, and who is the better get than the either of JSN or Addison as well, 'specially for us and what our purported stretch the field need is, according to the many here on this board, and.... that said, still going Kincaid there.

[Boltgang74]

Went a different route this go

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[dmac_bolt]

Now that we are within 10 days of the Draft,
and
now that we have all killed each other by death from a thousand spitballs, ...

it is time to get serious.

Tell me those mocks you've been posting are just a joke.

Tell me you've spent more than 30 seconds looking at Quentin Johnston video.
BTW Bleacher Report just mocked him to DET @ #18.

Tell me you know who Brenton Strange is, and realize what a perfect fit he is for Kellen Moore.
BTW Kiper just mocked him to LAC @ #54.

Don't burn out NOW.
It is time to dig deeper.

my "Fix the RB spot once and for all" mock - yes that was a joke. you caught me, you caught the Tater.



I watched a lot more than 30 sec of QJ tape after you started pimping him hard. Its nice to see a guy with enough great tape they don't have to replay the same play 3 and 4 times.

He's a man against boys in NCAA, shades of MDub with perhaps a higher ceiling. Strong hands, great leap/highpoint technique, superb route running to get open, but he's not going to run away from any DBs in the NFL. He generally doesn't run away from NCAA DBs. So he won't "lift the lid" on our offense with a burner for Herbie. its a "whats the objective here, Moore?" type question because he is giong to be a really good professional WR.

He's what we have now on Slayer+MDub's best days and an obvious heir apparent to one of them in 2024. Is that the goal in the 2023 draft? Can Staley and TT see that far out?