2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[powderblueboy]

it is, but so far i just dont see his route tree, its limited right now, he could he a superstar, but he could also just be a one trick pony. in my eyes if we go receiver in the first its either rome or harrison. I was the same guy that wanted addison last year

What do you mean by this? He can play in the slot or play outside. He doesn't appear to lose speed on cuts .... they are very crisp.

If the Chargers didn't have Keenan or Herbert, I wouldn't bee so interested in Nabers.

This offense needs speed. There will be some options early in round 2 for that, sure. Miss out on a center there?

After that, its the one trick pony or a complete draft steal ... not likely.

Jeremiah, on the last game, emphasized repeatedly that the Charger offense needs speed .... too many 12 play drives, which are hard to do in the NFL without eventually committing a mistake.

[charger1993]

What do you mean by this? He can play in the slot or play outside. He doesn't appear to lose speed on cuts .... they are very crisp.

If the Chargers didn't have Keenan or Herbert, I wouldn't bee so interested in Nabers.

This offense needs speed. There will be some options early in round 2 for that, sure. Miss out on a center there?

After that, its the one trick pony or a complete draft steal ... not likely.

Jeremiah, on the last game, emphasized repeatedly that the Charger offense needs speed .... too many 12 play drives, which are hard to do in the NFL without eventually committing a mistake.

if you put on the tape of him at lsu, the routes he had in his route tree he can run very well, but when he was asked to run routes that weren't in his tree you could see the lacking of the footwork, and just how uncrisp it was, that can be fixed with coaching. but im not inlove with him, he fast no doubt, but he's kinda like odell to me. hes gonna be explosive and fast and make crazy catches, but you're also gonna get the same antics, and you're gonna be drafting a wr in the top 5 with a limited route tree. to me the only wr i take at 5 is mhj, if we trade down, its him or rome, ima take rome, bigger, runs in the 4.3s, great route tree, makes contested catches, and was used as a swiss army knife. my vote on wr in the top 10 is MHJ, Rome, Nabers in that order

[DerwinBosa]

Reality is that both Bowers or Alt...or Nabers...or Odunze are fine choices at 5

But please stop bringing up ONE cherry picked Super Bowl as some example that Kelce isnt important because the Chiefs had a rare bad playoff game. You might have noticed the Chiefs have won 3 other Super Bowls in the past 5 years. You might have noticed that Travis Kelce has more receptions in the playoffs than any other player in NFL history. You might have noticed the Chiefs have won 7 straight AFC West titles in which Kelce has been bitch slapping the Chargers.

The point is simple. Kelce caught 10 passes for 133 yards in that game. They lost 31-9. Reverse the situation. The Chiefs have a healthy offensive line in that game but Travis Kelce isn't playing due to injury. Are they losing 31-9?

[DerwinBosa]

You can. Not saying you cant but what i keep saying is this TE isnt that deep. WR is,,,OL is. Sure we can find a TE in round 3. I like Ben Sinnott as well but he isnt on Bowers level at all. There are several WRs i like.
I think MHJ will be very good but i dont care if we dont draft him or Nabahs. It isnt like we dont have any recievers and only if we release both Keenan and MW would i consider a WR in round1 @5.
I think QJ is going to be much improved next season. Davonte Adams rookie year was very similar to QJs. Never count out a top pick after year 1.

As for OL, Im more interested in fixing the middle of the OL than RT. The middle of the OL was crapola and maybe we can just swap Salyer to RT next to Bowers,.... a better blocker than Everett and thats an upgrade til we draft a RT in 2025. Draft a RT...thats cool but what about OC and RG? Thats still sux.

Just my opinion.

I would be thrilled to see Harbaugh and Hortiz select a guard fifth overall if there were a Quenton Nelson or Zack Martin in this draft. There isn't one of those, though. If we draft a right tackle in the first round we can still address the center and guard later. Or perhaps we'll get a veteran to handle center or guard in free agency.

[DerwinBosa]

Seriously? You don't need a stud RB, WR, ROT, C, OG to win a SB. In fact you don't even need a stud QB to win a SB. What kind of argument is that? It takes a team. ROT
is not a need since we have our starter back. Do we need an upgrade there? Absolutely. But facts are we don't have a starting C. Everett is a FA, so we lost our starting TE.
We don't have enough talent at CB, RB. Even LB, DT, Edge need help if we lose Mack/Bosa or both. Those are the primary needs. So we definitely can use upgrades at many
other positions. And by the way our OGs were not exactly great either. So maybe we need a whole new roster?

We're not doomed if we don't get a ROT either. So really I don't see your point. We are going to draft the best player at position of need. If Harbaugh and Co. think ROT is
it, then so be it.

What starter is that at right tackle? Pipkins? LOL.

My point was that we don't HAVE to draft Brock Bowers with the fifth overall pick, for the very reasons you stated above. I was responding to someone who wrote that Herbert NEEDS a stud tight end. I would have responded the same if he had written that Herbert NEEDS a stud running back or wide receiver or any other position. I guess that flew over your head.

[dmac_bolt]

What starter is that at right tackle? Pipkins? LOL.

My point was that we don't HAVE to draft Brock Bowers with the fifth overall pick, for the very reasons you stated above. I was responding to someone who wrote that Herbert NEEDS a stud tight end. I would have responded the same if he had written that Herbert NEEDS a stud running back or wide receiver or any other position. I guess that flew over your head.

Sanders, Stover and Sinnot are nice pieces later in the draft if they don’t draft Bowers. The draft is completely void of TEs.
WR - the top 3 seem to be well above the rest, but there are good receivers later.
There is no RB worth Top10 consideration, not even first round imo.

[Fleet 1]

I knew the Nabers clan would get after me. Im also a huge Nabers fan. lol But the production doesn't lie.

[dmac_bolt]

I knew the Nabers clan would get after me. Im also a huge Nabers fan. lol But the production doesn't lie.

You’re pulling back onto the Bowers Bus

[Charge!]

Seriously? You don't need a stud RB, WR, ROT, C, OG to win a SB. In fact you don't even need a stud QB to win a SB. What kind of argument is that? It takes a team. ROT
is not a need since we have our starter back. Do we need an upgrade there? Absolutely. But facts are we don't have a starting C. Everett is a FA, so we lost our starting TE.
We don't have enough talent at CB, RB. Even LB, DT, Edge need help if we lose Mack/Bosa or both. Those are the primary needs. So we definitely can use upgrades at many
other positions. And by the way our OGs were not exactly great either. So maybe we need a whole new roster?

We're not doomed if we don't get a ROT either. So really I don't see your point. We are going to draft the best player at position of need. If Harbaugh and Co. think ROT is
it, then so be it.

You absolutely need a stud QB to win SB's...... especially multiple SB's and to be in running every year......SB winners without an elite QB are super super RARE!!!

And the TE position is very very important..... most SB winners have had great consistently great TE's...

This past season the top 4 TE's were on the final 4 playoff teams.......

The best Chargers offenses have had great QB's and great TE's..... the air coryel offense did not become great until Winslow SR.....

Raiders dynasty had great TE's..... 49ers the same......

Great QB's need great TE's...especially when they run into tough defenses......

you need great OL's.....and great DL/pass rushes to attack/harrass the other teams great QB.....

and you need great cover CB's ...especially in this era where you cannot touch receivers.....

[Charge!]

I knew the Nabers clan would get after me. Im also a huge Nabers fan. lol But the production doesn't lie.

all good points...

One issue is Chargers already have KA, Palmer and QJ (who has major potential that may just need better coaching), plus davis...(aasuming MW is gone)....we can add another speed WR after the first round......

Chargers have zero starting quality TE's on roster.....and have not since Gates..... Everett is a good #2..... Henry also was a solid #2...... (i know they started for Chargers but only because we lacked a true great TE......)

Bowers also has a physical toughness, that this offense NEEDS!.....his energy is contagious!

There are some mocks that have him being taken before Chargers pick.....

Nabors makes plays but scares me because after every freaking play he is jawing and taunting everyone...... maybe he is a headcase,..... and not a team player....

my guess is Harbaugh will have 2 TE's on field most of the time, so only 2 WR's are needed or one if we have FB and RB.... Bowers can also play FB.....or big RB.... having a 75 yard TD run in college on a sweep....

[sonorajim]

Herbert NEEDS receivers. Pass catchers. Last year we thought there were an abundance.
MW, KA, Palmer, Q, Everett, Ekeler among others. Didn't go well.
2 or 3 really good ones all year, ideally if we want our star QB to shine.
This draft features 4 really good ones at top of rd 1.
MHJ, Bowers, Odunze, Nabers. I'll take MHJ or Bowers, thank you.
C rd 2.

[electricgold]

Herbert NEEDS receivers. Pass catchers. Last year we thought there were an abundance.
MW, KA, Palmer, Q, Everett, Ekeler among others. Didn't go well.
2 or 3 really good ones all year, ideally if we want our star QB to shine.
This draft features 4 really good ones at top of rd 1.
MHJ, Bowers, Odunze, Nabers. I'll take MHJ or Bowers, thank you.
C rd 2.

only WR I'm taking top 5 is MHJ, otherwise I'm perfectly fine with a speedy WR like Brenden Rice or others like him later in the draft!

Bowers looks like he could be the top player on the board at 5-10 while at the same time filling a big-time need here, only other player I'm considering other than Bowers top 10 if MHJ is drafted is Joe Alt!

I'll be shocked if we don't draft either Bowers or Alt!