2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[21&500]

My Hot Take

JJ McCarthy will be the Tom Brady of this draft.

oh I hope he doesn’t go to the Raiders.

He’s gonna win 3 super bowls.

This is what always happens. Nothing makes sense. But a 70 completion percentage. And sneaky Patrick Mahomes athleticism.

what is he “6-5 ? I like the Kid a winner.

The Falcons should take him. I think he’s a franchise Quarterback. Sean Payton knows something. That’s why he likes the kid.

When the season starts and he throws 5 touchdowns in his first game. The commentators are going to say well Harbaugh never let him throw. He didn’t have to throw. Safe pro bowl talent. One of the safest picks in the draft.

Bold take, I won't flame it but if JJ is truly a diamond in the rough, Jim has to convince Hortiz to trade back into the first for him, and eventually trade Herbert away hopefully after an MVP type season.
I'm not a believer in JJMC but who knows.

[SAY OW 55]

Bold take, I won't flame it but if JJ is truly a diamond in the rough, Jim has to convince Hortiz to trade back into the first for him, and eventually trade Herbert away hopefully after an MVP type season.
I'm not a believer in JJMC but who knows.

Nope don’t do that. But he is a franchise Quarterback.

[SAY OW 55]

at 3 or through trade up or down?

Trade down

or 3rd.

[SAY OW 55]

He’s Tom Brady. The way I evaluate these guys. If you can win at Big Schools if you can win in the Big 10. That’s huge. He beat Ohio State. He beat CJ stroud

Brady wasn’t Mahomes Stroud was more Mahomes

Mccarrhy looks like Brady. You don’t think the kid is the prospect like Caleb Williams.

But he gets it done. Yes he had an elite defense and coach in Minter.

But Harbaugh didn’t win until he had this kid. I believe Harbaugh. He makes winning plays throws. There will be some picks there.

But he just gets it done. A team is gonna get him and he’s just gonna start winning ball games. Hes got all the tools.

[21&500]

Nope don’t do that. But he is a franchise Quarterback.

If JJ is absolutely a franchise qb with 3 superbowls in his future, and Jim believes that, can you imagine how many first round picks we can get for Herbo?
that would restart the rookie qb cap.
I'd never risk that ever, ever ever, but if Jim believed this he should find a way to get him.

[SAY OW 55]

The new combine is the pro day. Players do their pro day.

[SAY OW 55]

If JJ is absolutely a franchise qb with 3 superbowls in his future, and Jim believes that, can you imagine how many first round picks we can get for Herbo?
that would restart the rookie qb cap.
I'd never risk that ever, ever ever, but if Jim believed this he should find a way to get him.

Still wouldn’t trade Herbert and I hate drafting guys just to run your system. And I think Herbert is better than McCarthy. Herbert is the Tom Brady. I called Herbert Brady.

[beachcomber]

Zierlein calls (sophomore) Blake Fisher more naturally talented than Alt....

[21&500]

01) Malik Nabers * WR1 part Justin Jefferson, part Ja'Marr Chase
02) MHJ * w/CeeDee Lamb compare
03) Caleb Williams * super fun to watch, but Kyler Murray compare rather than Mahomes
04) Bowers * pass catching TE w/high market share @Georgia, a move blocker w/Pro Bowl upside, gets separation and YAC
05) Odunze * lotta peoples fave player w/Larry Fitzgerald compare
06) Jayden * accurate passer who makes good decisions, has good feel/sense for things
07) Jared Verse * top rated edge, safer than not, higher than not floor
08) Chop Robinson * still green & w/modest production, Micah Parsons compare w/Myles Garrett mention
09) JC Latham * has some avg to his game and gets beat, yet Lance likes him as heralded RT or Pro Bowl OG, and better than Alt on one account
10) Drake Maye * inconsistent boom or bust prospect, accuracy, decision making and processing in question @times
11) Latu * potential Pro Bowl 3-4 OLB w/TJ Watt compare, most skilled pass rusher in draft
12) Fashanu * LT w/learning curve
13) Alt * workmanlike technician w/Mike McGlinchey/Eric Fisher compare
14) Terrion Arnold * cover corner w/game that could be cleaned up a bit
15) Byron Murphy * disruptive pass rusher w/modest production, and Ed Oliver compare
16) Dallas Turner * elite athlete that lacks technique, Brian Burns compare, impactful
17) Fuaga * w/Taylor Decker compare
18) Graham Barton * consistent w/Pro Bowl potential, not much to quibble 'bout his game
19) Nate Wiggins * possible Pro Bowl cover corner, recovers well, better than Devon Witherspoon
20) Amarius Mims * a projection w/developmental upside, sounds a bit risky by my take
21) Austin Booker * player compare Maxx Crosby, day three prospect on some boards
22) Tyler Guyton * 'nother projection that could just as likely end up as swing tackle
23) Bo Nix * accurate w/Tony Romo compare, stats may warrant closer scrutiny
24) Quinyon Mitchell* not press coverage guy, better for off man/zone coverage
25) Brian Thomas * WR2 w/TD on 1/4 balls caught, mindset in question
26) Fautanu * gets beat and has some avg to his game, solid mindset/mental makeup
27) Kool Aid * cover corner w/game in ship shape, luck is when preparation meets opportunity and is the residue of design, punt returner too
28) T'Vondre Sweat * can play in even front, and will likely have large impact on overall D, keeps LBs clean, requires x2 team
29) Troy Franklin * undersized/lightweight linear receiver w/Chris Olave compare & Jalin Hyatt mention
30) Darius Robinson * didn't read anything that warrants ranking this high
31) JJ McCarthy * not a stand out passer, and chances are if he doesn't drink enough water he could come in @under 200 lbs, very much a cautionary tale
32) Ja'Tavion Sanders * pass catching TE w/Njoku compare

37) LB Junior Colson, WR Ladd McConkey, DT Jer'Zhan Newton, DB Cooper DeJean, OC JPJ, DT Kris Jenkins, NB Kamari Lassister, WR Keon Coleman, DT Braden Fiske, RB Jaylen Wright, TE Cade Stover

69) OC Sedrick VPG, OG Zak Zinter, ED Adisa Isaac, DE Bralen Trice, NB Mike Sainristil, RB Trey Benson, RB MarShawn Lloyd, RB Audric Estime, RB Bucky Irving, DT DeWayne Carter, RT Kingsley Suamataia * or is Austin Booker still on the board, and is he better than Bralen

106) CB Cam Hart, LB Payton Wilson, RB Will Shipley, RB Blake Corum, RB Ray Davis, S Cole Bishop, OC Zach Frazier

139) TE AJ Barner, RB Braelon Allen, WR Brenden Rice, LB Cedric Gray, TE Dallin Hooker, TE Ben Sinnott, WR Luke McCaffrey

183) OT Christian Jones, TE Jared Wiley, RB Dillon Johnson, DT Gabe Hall, RB Daijun Edwards

223) CB Kalen King, WR Johnny Wilson, TE Brevyn Spann Ford * King could backup Asante @boundary corner

256) RB Frank Gore Jr., QB Joe Milton, RB Keilan Robinson, RB Miyan Williams

Did you forget JPJ?

[SAY OW 55]

McCarthy has Tom Brady stats.

go do some homework and look at Brady’s stats at Michigan.

I value height 6-3””

Hes taller than Caleb. What would Mccarrhy do in Lincoln Riley’s system. I like this kid.

He never transferred to showcase his skills. This kid values winning.

He’s a natural player.

He can do it all.

those stats in Brady’s early career are McCarthy. He’s gonna make throws winning throws. I like him way better than Desmond Ridder.

Btw Chicago is stupid to draft Caleb over Fields.keep Fields.get a king’s ransom own somebody’s draft. Like the Raiders.

And now you give Fields maybe Harrison Nabers or Odunze or Alt.

[Boltinloudguy]

Sorry to say but my favorite WR is Odunze. I feel like he is the better ALL around WR. He has speed, route running, great hands, blocking, contested catching, work ethic and has a great football IQ. The only thing that might be in question is his YAC. A lot more pros than that one con.

[DerwinBosa]

Marvin Harrison, Jr. will not participate at the Combine or Ohio State's Pro Day.

He's probably following his father's advice. A lot of guys get injured before or after the Combine or Pro Day because of the training it takes to improve in the drills.