2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[Velo]

The priority in this draft IMO is for the first pick to be an offensive playmaker for Herbert, in this order of preference.

Marvin Harrison Jr. - doubt he will drop to #5 but could
Malik Nabers
Brock Bowers
Rome Odunze - he'd probably still be available if the Chargers trade down #8 with the Falcons

[charger1_sj]

The priority in this draft IMO is for the first pick to be an offensive playmaker for Herbert, in this order of preference.

Marvin Harrison Jr. - doubt he will drop to #5 but could
Malik Nabers
Brock Bowers
Rome Odunze - he'd probably still be available if the Chargers trade down #8 with the Falcons

I think you got it right. Some would put Nabers ahead of Harrison. If we don't trade down one insider says we're taking Nabors.

[powderblueboy]

McNeill was a 2nd round pick, so this works as a good example: If the Bolts can trade down from #5 to #10, and get a Rashawn Slater caliber lineman there, and a Marcus McNeill quality O-lineman with the 2nd round pick acquired in the trade down, would that be worth passing on an elite receiver?

I would agree that Hall of Famers were most likely perennial Pro Bowlers (Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White, Tony Gonzalez) but the reverse isn't so accurate. Guys like Ed White and Jim Lachey made a lot of Pro Bowls, but aren't in the Hall.

Ed White was a 4 x pro bowler, and Jim Lachey 3 x ..... somewhere on the cusp of perennial status.

If Ed White played for the 70s Steelers, he'd probably be in the Hall.

Jim Lachey's career was cut short by injuries; he was coming off his 3rd All pro season and then he blew out his knee.
Another HOFer with a little luck.

[Boltjolt]

I did the same thing, but saw things a little differently.

Reiman is a good blocker when he has the advantage, but gets caught off balance at times, nearly getting decleated by DBs surprising him with direction changes. More powerful than explosive or twitchy...not a playmaker, just a target when needed...no real YAC to his game. But size, athleticism, power, and decent hands make him intriguing as a #2 blocking TE, especially on power plays.

Theo has a lot more receiving chops on tape...I dont think he is a bad route runner, though a few times he ran it lazy, like he knew he wasnt getting the ball that play. Surprising after the catch, will make decent football moves. Better blocker than the Ohio St game...he had some whiffs that irked me, but when I watched again, he had some good blocks, also.

Bottom line...gimme Bowers, or sign Everett, Henry, etc....I like both these kids day 3, but neither of these guys is a #1 yet (Theo may get there)

Next: Tanner McLachlan...

Right, ...he isnt imo great at it and his blocking he disengages way too early with a minimul effort.. That is coaching as well.

Neither play to their timed speed but at least they have that gear. Isnt much video to see of Reiman but if we drafted him, he would be the blocking TE. Both will get better in time just think Reiman has a much better head start there.

So yeah draft Bowers or will need to sign a TE and hope it isnt Everett. He brings little to the offense as a blocker. Fant, Henry...would be better than Everett. Not really high on the later round TEs in this class.

[Boltjolt]

AJ Barner * couldn't move sled to save his life, he sux, stinky route runner
Jaheim Bell * not a real TE, never going to be inline, good hands, decent route runner
Devin Culp * looks the part, but zero production, didn't finish routes well, more speed/sizzle than results, doesn't look like a TE
Dallin Holker * wasn't super blown away, but he did his part, underwhelming, slow
Theo Johnson * pretty good moving the sled, gets job done, but not blowing anyone away, is he actually good ??
Tanner McLachlan * depth, avg, not toolsy
Tip Reiman * killed the sled drill, damn good blocker, no issues catching the ball, built like small tackle, big thick body, really bad once routes started
Ben Sinnott * does alotta good things, blocked damn well, hockey background, like his feet, got some giddy up to him, well rounded
Brevyn Spann Ford * looks like a fridge, slow, moved the sled, but knew he could block
Cade Stover * tough and can block, destroyed the sled w/ease, doesn't have crazy burst, no issues catching ball, will help on STs and the occasional LB duties
Jared Wiley * not egregious blocking, held his own there, looks enormous, movement skills pretty good, might have something to him
Ja'Tavion Sanders * moved the sled well blocking, play speed catching the ball better than straight line speed, has extra juice when he cuts, looks way better on field than straight line running, really good in drills, no drop issues, smooth running route tree

Stover, Bell and Johnson all rated ahead of Sinnott

Your source is off. Barner moved the sled and looked a little better than Sanders doing it. Not going to say he slayed it but Sanders got too high and was dancing with it. But IDK...you all can judge

[CanadianBoltFan]

Troy Benson 4.39 at 216 lbs

[Fleet 1]

Benson burning like Breece Hall 2.0

[CanadianBoltFan]

Estime 4.72 yikes

[dmac_bolt]

Not going to lie, I think Marvin Harrison Jr. has already started to be a diva. Not speaking to the media or doing anything at the combine. I wonder if he’ll even weigh in? Not to mention wearing Louie Vuitton cleats and an Apple Watch during a game in college is a bit much for me. He may be a great WR but I get a sense that he is more of a ME player and not a TEAM player. I could be wrong but just my opinion.

Odunze is my favorite WR in the draft.

I don’t care for guys wanting to be a Top 5 pick but refuse to participate in anything. Caleb takes the cake, that guy screams long term head case imo.

[CanadianBoltFan]

Guerendo from Louisville a nice sleeper...4.33 wow

[Boltjolt]

I didn’t watch a lot of the DB session - Sort of see a snip, miss a snip, can’t really come out with comparisons. I did catch Sainristil flipped his hips really well in one of the backpedal-sprint back diagonal and track ball over shoulder drills. I wasn’t expecting him to be that fluid and smooth. then he dropped the ball lol, i’m not worried about a drop in a combine drill. but up to that point he was really good with the right athletic traits to succeed at CB - probably slot as you note.

No idea if others were better, the few I saw were not

He was smooth in his drils. Ran a pretty good time. They showed Harbaugh clapping for him after his run and drills. I think he is a Harbaugh guy and is one he mentioned during Michgans celbration they for their championship win.

[dmac_bolt]

Your source is off. Barner moved the sled and looked a little better than Sanders doing it. Not going to say he slayed it but Sanders got too high and was dancing with it. But IDK...you all can judge

Sanders looked horrible on the sled, thats a low bar. The guy that obliterated the overmatched sled was the MINN kid - spann-brevyn / brevyn span / whatever - he coulda taken it to the end zone. I thought he was gonna toss it across the field after driving it 10+ yards lol. He looked pretty good in other drills too - would be a great inline TE with some extra ability.

Overall, most TEs did not do well on it - the sled beat most of them. they failed the basic technique requirement of stay low and drive parallel to the ground. Mosts of them lifted under the pad which then dug the back sled leg into the turf. The field coach told them all to stay low and drive straight before they went.