2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[SAY OW 55]

- he'd have to move to the right side
- he's not a mountain of a man, more of a tree: quickest path to Herbert might be through Alt's chest
- if you need to grind out tough yards, you will not be going behind Alt.

#5 is a bit rich for him.

Spot on.

[Velo]

Too slow? Lol, I think that's good speed though he ran a 4.45 after. It's certainly a lot faster than Keenan.

WRs who run the 40-yard dash in 4.4s are pretty damn fast. These timed drills often don't reflect a player's true game speed. Deebo Samuel for example ran a 4.48 40 at the 2019 Combine. And if he gets the ball behind the defense nobody can catch him.

[Leslie Grossman]

Great day for McCarthy

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[Boltjolt]

Only bad thing about Worthy is he weighed in at 165 lbs

Weapon for sure but he may have a hard time staying healthy if he plays full time.

I wonder how much Harbaugh likes his own WR Roman Wilson? Several I like but he is a fast one.

Everyone talks about Nabahs,..... His teammate Brian Thomas goes un noticed and never mentioned and he had a good season as well and ran a 4.34 while Nabahs isn't participating.

[Critty]

Xavier Worthy only a 5th-7th Rd prospect to me.
Love the speed.

[SAY OW 55]

Bowers Nabers

I like Brelon Allen Wisconsin running back Harbaugh knows him personally and has seen him up close. He would be good for us.

I wasn’t impressed with Blake Coryons combine. That’s to slow for a running back. Especially for a running back his size. You’d expect faster.

One name you guys haven’t talked about Brendon Rice Jerry Rices son. I like him a lot a Harbaugh guy. If we go Bowers I’d like to get him. Go Bowers Rice that’s pretty good.

or Nabers Hooker.

[Javia]

WRs who run the 40-yard dash in 4.4s are pretty damn fast. These timed drills often don't reflect a player's true game speed. Deebo Samuel for example ran a 4.48 40 at the 2019 Combine. And if he gets the ball behind the defense nobody can catch him.

Quentin Johnston ran a 4.46 at the same size as Odunze. He also had trouble gaining separation. Granted Odunze's hands are much, much better, but is Johnston with good hand worth the #5 pick? I don't think so. That's just me though.

[Boltjolt]

WRs who run the 40-yard dash in 4.4s are pretty damn fast. These timed drills often don't reflect a player's true game speed. Deebo Samuel for example ran a 4.48 40 at the 2019 Combine. And if he gets the ball behind the defense nobody can catch him.

Right, it's an example of if a player who plays fast and most others aren't playing to their speed all the time,.... and it's too late by the time you realize he is moving and you need to kick into another gear to catch him.

Play speed is very important as opposed to timed speed. Odunze at 6'3", 212 lbs running a 4.45 is damn good.

[Chargers8491]

I’ve looked at all of these the debate is clear. This draft is going to come down to Nabers Bowers.

So have your debate here. Is Nabers a knucklehead y’all posted some stuff. Bowers looks kind of clean. I don’t need a guy who can’t get on the field. I’d go with Nabers cause I think it’s elite. And there are ways you can help him.

But wouldn’t have a problem with Bowers because he can very well be a 10 time pro bowler and I’ve liked him from jump.

I tried to tell you guys and please look what I said Roman said they want to run the football. Every level I’ve played football in order to have an elite running game you have to have an elite receiver to keep the defense honest the 49ers with Jerry Rice Rams with Issac Bruce Cowboys with Michael Irvin even Patriots with Gronk.

There’s always a Barry Sanders Ladanian Tomlinson two teams were the running back is so elite you don’t need that and it doesn’t matter.

But there ain’t no Barry Sanders or Ladanian Tomlinson in this draft.

So the elite prospect is Bowers or Nabers.

They will have defensive coordinators saying we can’t bring our safety up to stop the run because that Elite Quarterback can throw it over our heads for a touchdown with Nabers. The funny thing is I can very well say that with Bowers also. Who has just as much speed. If you bring your safety up to stop a run with Bowers. Herbert will pull it down and throw a slant to Bowers who can take it up the field for a touchdown.

The reason the Lions run so good and were able to run so good against the 49ers. Because as a defense you want your linebackers aggressive to sale out for the run. We can’t be agressive When Jameson Williams can take the cover off of the top or Amron st. Brown has the middle of the field and Laporta has the middle of the field. You keep the defense guessing.

So to run the way Roman wants to run. You gotta have those elite skill players. You can get Pimpkins some help maybe Jordan Williams

But when you look what Horwitz said we want to take the best player available you don’t take a player just because it’s a need and you don’t take a player who’s the best player on the board. That’s Ozzie Newsom. He’s telling you right there.

I like the idea of Bowers and Braelon Allen. I still can't see them going WR in the 1st with the current WR core they have unless they don't bring back KA which I don't see happening.

[Boltjolt]

Worthy's official time is 4.21 so he has the record

[Boltjolt]

Quentin Johnston ran a 4.46 at the same size as Odunze. He also had trouble gaining separation. Granted Odunze's hands are much, much better, but is Johnston with good hand worth the #5 pick? I don't think so. That's just me though.

QJ did not run at the combine OR his pro day so there is no official time for him.

And sorry, speed is not the most important thing about getting open contrary to what some might say here.
Odunzes route running is excellent. QJ, not so much.

https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Quentin&l=Johnston&i=31162

[jamrock]

Great day for McCarthy

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Should we draft him?