2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[el_jefe999]

Joe Alt is a premiere athlete and I don't want him. I'd much rather have a trade down and to draft an actual right tackle like Fuaga or Latham. Having left tackles switch to right and vice versa can work but it isn't a sure science. Give me the guy who plays the position already and takes less draft capital to acquire.

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

Very good point, However, it doesnt always work though.

Walter Paytons Son didnt fare well. George Atkinson Son didnt fare well. Jealyn Reagor is a bust whose father was a DT, Winslows kid was a rapist, Moss kid didnt fare well, Chris Simms was meh, Rob Carpenters kid didnt fare very well....i mean there are many examples of Father/Sons in the league and its a very long list in Wikipedia. Some have been great and some havent.

Some of these guys that will be good NFL players will be generation #1 for their future kids.

Yeah, but with the exception of Winslow, Jr., none of those guys had an outstanding college career.

I think it's a somewhat different thing when the progeny has played well enough in college to be considered, hands down, a Top 10 pick.

Parenthetically, I don't believe that Winslow, Jr.'s NFL failure had anything to do with talent. The guy was a walking, talking character issue/substance abuse problem.

[Topcat]

Joe Alt is a premiere athlete and I don't want him. I'd much rather have a trade down and to draft an actual right tackle like Fuaga or Latham. Having left tackles switch to right and vice versa can work but it isn't a sure science. Give me the guy who plays the position already and takes less draft capital to acquire.

This is a very good point, Jefe. Bien dicho! For this reason, I'd rather trade down to #8-12 or so, grab a premium run-stuffing, pass-rushing IDL and then get our C in round 2...followed closely by a real RT in round 3 or 4...or sign a FA RT...

[Bolt4Knob]

This is a very good point, Jefe. Bien dicho! For this reason, I'd rather trade down to #8-12 or so, grab a premium run-stuffing, pass-rushing IDL and then get our C in round 2...followed closely by a real RT in round 3 or 4...or sign a FA RT...

I agree about trading down - if the value is there and that is where you get your RT. I just am not sure the value for IDL is there unless its somebody like Newton.

Based on that, might see the Chargers use free agency for IDL - as like Center - they might want a stop gap to be sure and than address in draft.

[Formula 21]

Joe Alt is a premiere athlete and I don't want him. I'd much rather have a trade down and to draft an actual right tackle like Fuaga or Latham. Having left tackles switch to right and vice versa can work but it isn't a sure science. Give me the guy who plays the position already and takes less draft capital to acquire.

Plus he's going to be happy at RT and won't want LT money for his second contract. There are benefits to drafting a true RT.

[SAY OW 55]

When is Brock Bowers pro day?

[SAY OW 55]

When is Georgias Pro day?

[Charge!]

Some thoughts.....

Many fans and others seem to prefer having a great WR over a great TE..... I can understand this from a big play point of view and from FF view......

There are some great WR's in this draft with alot of depth and maybe the best WR prospect in history ....

There is a TE prospect who many are calling the best TE prospect in history.....

If Chargers extend KA, we will have 3 very good to great receivers on roster.....
Chargers currently hacve zero great TE's on roster.....

Lets think about difference between great WR's and great TE's:

• Great WR's are usually faster but smaller....
• Great WR's can be covered and taken away by a great CB....
• Great WR's require more time to get open forcing QB to hold ball longer....
• Great WR's are usually more explosive...and scare defenses.....

• Great TE's are bigger and break more tackles
• GreatTE's are better blockers
• GreatTE's add toughness to your offense.....and wear out defenses...
• GreatTE's are better targets in red zone....
• GreatTE's gert open quicker and are a QB's best friend by being an easy outlet when under pressure...
• Great TE's help both the passing game and running game....
• Great TE's like Bowers is too big for DB's to cover him and far too fast for a LBer to cover him........he is also faster than many DB's...... making him a matchup nightmare.....
• Great TE's cost less for salary cap over their career compared to WR's......MORE BANG FOR THE BUCK!

Look at the NE dynasty and the KC dynasty?: Both franchises have won multiple SB's with great QB's, and great TE's, but average WR's at best.....

Chargers best offenses had Winslow or Gates........

Best 4 teams in NFL last year all had elite TE's ......

The best defenses in NFL this season, SF and BALT could shut down WR's but could not shut down Kelsey........ so they LOST.....to chiefs.....

[Formula 21]

And we draft before all of them in the 2nd.

[gzubeck]

Some thoughts.....

Many fans and others seem to prefer having a great WR over a great TE..... I can understand this from a big play point of view and from FF view......

There are some great WR's in this draft with alot of depth and maybe the best WR prospect in history ....

There is a TE prospect who many are calling the best TE prospect in history.....

If Chargers extend KA, we will have 3 very good to great receivers on roster.....
Chargers currently hacve zero great TE's on roster.....

Lets think about difference between great WR's and great TE's:

• Great WR's are usually faster but smaller....
• Great WR's can be covered and taken away by a great CB....
• Great WR's require more time to get open forcing QB to hold ball longer....
• Great WR's are usually more explosive...and scare defenses.....

• Great TE's are bigger and break more tackles
• GreatTE's are better blockers
• GreatTE's add toughness to your offense.....and wear out defenses...
• GreatTE's are better targets in red zone....
• GreatTE's gert open quicker and are a QB's best friend by being an easy outlet when under pressure...
• Great TE's help both the passing game and running game....
• Great TE's like Bowers is too big for DB's to cover him and far too fast for a LBer to cover him........he is also faster than many DB's...... making him a matchup nightmare.....
• Great TE's cost less for salary cap over their career compared to WR's......MORE BANG FOR THE BUCK!

Look at the NE dynasty and the KC dynasty?: Both franchises have won multiple SB's with great QB's, and great TE's, but average WR's at best.....

Chargers best offenses had Winslow or Gates........

Best 4 teams in NFL last year all had elite TE's ......

The best defenses in NFL this season, SF and BALT could shut down WR's but could not shut down Kelsey........ so they LOST.....to chiefs.....

I just don't see Brock as the next Winslow or Gates. MH2 and Nabers look like 1.5 players like Joey Bosa when he first came out. You need two defenders to shut them down and sometimes that doesn't even work. They're that good!

[charger1_sj]

Some thoughts.....

Many fans and others seem to prefer having a great WR over a great TE..... I can understand this from a big play point of view and from FF view......

There are some great WR's in this draft with alot of depth and maybe the best WR prospect in history ....

There is a TE prospect who many are calling the best TE prospect in history.....

If Chargers extend KA, we will have 3 very good to great receivers on roster.....
Chargers currently hacve zero great TE's on roster.....

Lets think about difference between great WR's and great TE's:

• Great WR's are usually faster but smaller....
• Great WR's can be covered and taken away by a great CB....
• Great WR's require more time to get open forcing QB to hold ball longer....
• Great WR's are usually more explosive...and scare defenses.....

• Great TE's are bigger and break more tackles
• GreatTE's are better blockers
• GreatTE's add toughness to your offense.....and wear out defenses...
• GreatTE's are better targets in red zone....
• GreatTE's gert open quicker and are a QB's best friend by being an easy outlet when under pressure...
• Great TE's help both the passing game and running game....
• Great TE's like Bowers is too big for DB's to cover him and far too fast for a LBer to cover him........he is also faster than many DB's...... making him a matchup nightmare.....
• Great TE's cost less for salary cap over their career compared to WR's......MORE BANG FOR THE BUCK!

Look at the NE dynasty and the KC dynasty?: Both franchises have won multiple SB's with great QB's, and great TE's, but average WR's at best.....

Chargers best offenses had Winslow or Gates........

Best 4 teams in NFL last year all had elite TE's ......

The best defenses in NFL this season, SF and BALT could shut down WR's but could not shut down Kelsey........ so they LOST.....to chiefs.....

Except outside of Allen, we don't have great receivers. At one time we had a healthy Allen, Williams and Guyton as a speedster. Those days are gone.
We have a developing WR in Palmer. He's good but not great. QJ, we don't yet have a clear picture of what he may or may not be.

Both a great receiver and TE would do wonders for this offense. Unfortunately we need a lot more than just a WR or TE. That's exactly why
all the talk about trading down.

[Riverwalk]

Joe Alt is a premiere athlete and I don't want him. I'd much rather have a trade down and to draft an actual right tackle like Fuaga or Latham. Having left tackles switch to right and vice versa can work but it isn't a sure science. Give me the guy who plays the position already and takes less draft capital to acquire.

Alt would be great at RT.

You know the only reason why RT’s don’t play LT? Because there’s someone better already playing LT.