2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[powderblueboy]

Final Mock Draft

For all you trenches guys.

I think the Chargers with all their Quarterback talk protect the Quarterback will draft

Joe Alt at 5 tackle Notre Dame.

I don’t know if he can play right tackle but he will be the pick. I don’t think they’ll draft Malik Nabers

Shit it might even be Tony Fontou at 5.

I think Cooper Dejuan will be a pick.

And I think they will pick Brandon Rice. That’s my pick and I’m sticking to it.

I think the Jets draft Brock Bowers at 10.

I have Marvin Harrison Jr, if he makes it there at #5,
or a trade down to #11 where it could be Fuaga, Bowers, Odunze, ..... ??
Personally, I haven't a clue if that where the case.

I doubt it will come down to position - a need pick.

It will come down to whom they deem the best football player, just like Horitz will tell any one patient enough to listen.

Who will be the best football player available at #11?
At #5, its Harrison Jr.

[Bolt4Knob]

I have steadily said I am open to a trade down for a tackle if that is the inevitability with Harbaugh and Hortiz....Fuaga, Latham, Fashanu, Fautanu etc but remain adamant i do not want to draft Joe Alt at #5 over the likes of Harrison, Nabers, Odunze.

This article out today on ESPN of the players they have first round grades on and their NFL comparables illustrates why I feel the way I do. Basiclaly I do not want to pass on elite pass catching talents with the hole at that position on our roster for a tackle that is a good, soild tackle prospect but not elite tackle prospect. A top 5 pick ina loaded draft is too rich for a right tackle and to rich for Joe Alt. As I have said this player is not an Ogden, not a Joe Thomas, or a Sewell in recent drafts. The comparable here is the Giants Andrew Thomas...a solid NFL tackle. I think Alt will be a good NFL tackle but these 3 WRS all could be elite.

This article sums it up for me. I dont want to pass on the next J'marr Chase, AJ Green for an Andrew Thomas. Not at #5. If it has to be a tackle I sincerely hope it is a trade down.
The number beside the player is the overall rank in the draft.

Marvin Harrison Jr., Ohio State (No. 2)

Comp: A.J. Green

Harrison -- the son of Pro Football Hall of Famer Marvin Harrison Sr. -- has rare traits, including great size (6-foot-4, 209 pounds), body control, agility and flexibility, along with the fastest hands this side of Tyreek Hill. You don't often see big wide receivers show the flexibility and body control that Harrison does in order to get low to snag ground balls. And he's consistently making plays that show off an elite catch radius. He accumulated 2,474 receiving yards and 28 TDs over the past two seasons, despite defenses knowing the ball is going his way.

Rome Odunze, Washington (No. 3)

Comp: Ja'Marr Chase

Odunze is a physical, aggressive player when the ball is in his hands, and he sheds defenders with his 6-foot-3, 212-pound frame. Odunze combined for 167 catches, 2,785 yards and 20 touchdowns over the past two seasons while making a name for himself as a back shoulder fade specialist. His toughness pre- and post-catch is fantastic, and his ability to consistently beat man coverage and dominate on 50-50 balls is why he gets the Chase comp.

Malik Nabers, LSU (No. 4)

Comp: Stefon Diggs

He's the best after-the-catch receiver in the draft class. The 6-foot, 199-pound Nabers averaged 18 yards per catch on 86 grabs last season, with 6.8 coming after the catch. He also turned in 14 touchdowns and 1,546 yards in a breakout season. Nabers' start-stop quicks are high-end, and his field vision to find running lanes with the ball in his hands is special. I also love that over the past two seasons he had a drop rate of just 3.1%. Nabers is sure-handed, fast, explosive and ready to be an NFL WR1.

Joe Alt, Notre Dame (No. 6)

Comp: Andrew Thomas

The son of Chiefs' Hall of Famer John Alt, the younger Alt is a masterful technician with just two sacks allowed in the past two seasons. At 6-foot-9 and 321 pounds, he dominates defenders with his length and grip strength. Once he's locked on, defenders are best to just wait for the whistle. Alt doesn't have the flashy agility of other tackle prospects, but his power and technique are NFL-ready.

I think every year it would be interesting to see the draft board and how the rankings of players are. Like from a rankings perspective, my guess is that its not a perfect stepping stone. And that a player ranked 5 has a pretty big cap to the player ranked 10 compared to the gap between 10 and 15

Second for the draft - where does Alt rank in comparison to MHJR and Nabers if you include the QBs. From everything I have read, MHJr and Nabers might be the two best football players in the draft, along with Williams. But Maye and Daniels are good enough prospects that as QBs, they get moved up

And I agree with you, if I can get an AJ Green or Jamarr Chase over Andrew Thomas - doing that every day of the week

Hence, I think its easy for the Chargers. Either the trade down option is of very good value or you pick the top 3 player on your board at 5

[Bolt4Knob]

I have Marvin Harrison Jr, if he makes it there at #5,
or a trade down to #11 where it could be Fuaga, Bowers, Odunze, ..... ??
Personally, I haven't a clue if that where the case.

I doubt it will come down to position - a need pick.

It will come down to whom they deem the best football player, just like Horitz will tell any one patient enough to listen.

Who will be the best football player available at #11?
At #5, its Harrison Jr.

Or Nabers if Harrison is the pick at 4

Arizona might just pass on the trade down for the unique talent. The Cardinals have plenty of draft capital. They need to give Murray a weapon. Chargers WR room today might be better than the AZ Cardinals WR room

[powderblueboy]

Or Nabers if Harrison is the pick at 4

Arizona might just pass on the trade down for the unique talent. The Cardinals have plenty of draft capital. They need to give Murray a weapon. Chargers WR room today might be better than the AZ Cardinals WR room

But that would mean McCarthy will be available at #5 and Minnesota/Giants will come a knockin.

In that case, I like a number of receivers enough at #23 (his team mate) or at #37 to make that trade.

[powderblueboy]

Or Nabers if Harrison is the pick at 4

Arizona might just pass on the trade down for the unique talent. The Cardinals have plenty of draft capital. They need to give Murray a weapon. Chargers WR room today might be better than the AZ Cardinals WR room

That very well might be .... but they need to assemble a team right now,
and they don't have one.

If you were their GM, would you gamble everything on Murray turning around his career?
I wouldn't; I'd start considering life after Kyler Murray.

Arizona's former GM drafted him, and signed him to the back breaking contract. He's responsible, not you.

The GM in Miami who drafted Tua is still around; he assembled all that talent around Tua to safe face, as much as anything else.

[wu-dai clan]

That very well might be .... but they need to assemble a team right now,
and they don't have one.

If you were their GM, would you gamble everything on Murray turning around his career?
I wouldn't; I'd start considering life after Kyler Murray.

Arizona's former GM drafted him, and signed him to the back breaking contract. He's responsible, not you.

The GM in Miami who drafted Tua is still around; he assembled all that talent around Tua to safe face, as much as anything else.

What about the Texans model ?

[Boltjolt]

This guy loses tracks of how many picks the Chargers would end up with, but he poses an interesting scenario.

Chargers trade Justin Herbert to the Bears for picks #1 and #9 (Would you make that trade if you're Bears?)
They trade the #1 pick to the Patriots for the #3 pick and the #34 pick.
They draft J.J. McCarthy at #3 and still have picks #5, #9, #34 & #37.
They get Herbert's contract off the books and reset with a rookie QB whom Harbaugh won the National Championship with.

For me I think all these Harbaugh wants to draft JJ is foolish and just gives them something to talk about for likes and follows.

[wu-dai clan]

Breaking news.
We are not drafting for Don Coryell.
We are drafting for Jim Harbaugh.
As I type this, Mr. Joe Alt stands like a mighty Sequoia at #4 overall.
Ahead of Brock Bowers, Malik Nabers, and Rome Odunze.
This is per industry bible Drafttek.

[Javia]

Breaking news.
We are not drafting for Don Coryell.
We are drafting for Jim Harbaugh.
As I type this, Mr. Joe Alt stands like a mighty Sequoia at #4 overall.
Ahead of Brock Bowers, Malik Nabers, and Rome Odunze.
This is per industry bible Drafttek.

Not every offensive tackle is the same. Alt is a positional/wall off run blocker, not a mauler. Harbaugh likes physical players, which Alt is not. Harbaugh wants to trade down so he can pick up Fuaga, Latham or some other physical OL.

[wu-dai clan]

Not every offensive tackle is the same. Alt is a positional/wall off run blocker, not a mauler. Harbaugh likes physical players, which Alt is not. Harbaugh wants to trade down so he can pick up Fuaga, Latham or some other physical OL.

Are you talking about 2022 Alt ?
You are certainly not talking about how effective Alt is in 2024 in his run blocking.
Play style aside, Alt and Latham are the ones who are good in both run and pass blocking.
So regarding talent level plus Harbaugh fit, as the two main factors, it is self evident that Alt is much more than "do not draft."
What is really going on here is that Alt is being dismissed for superficial reasons, by those who favor one or any of the big four weapons.
We have to be better than that.
The Chargers face fateful decisions here that are a very close shave.

[Topcat]

That very well might be .... but they need to assemble a team right now,
and they don't have one.

If you were their GM, would you gamble everything on Murray turning around his career?
I wouldn't; I'd start considering life after Kyler Murray.

Arizona's former GM drafted him, and signed him to the back breaking contract. He's responsible, not you.

The GM in Miami who drafted Tua is still around; he assembled all that talent around Tua to safe face, as much as anything else.

^ This...at this point, the Cards need to consider Option 2 and they're in a great position to grab a top QB...remember when the Bolts drafted Brees, who kind of struggled on and off his first two years? That's why they drafted Rivers. Then, Brees started playing better but got hurt...Cards would be fools to not grab a QB @#4...

[Topcat]

Breaking news.
We are not drafting for Don Coryell.
We are drafting for Jim Harbaugh.
As I type this, Mr. Joe Alt stands like a mighty Sequoia at #4 overall.
Ahead of Brock Bowers, Malik Nabers, and Rome Odunze.
This is per industry bible Drafttek.

Alt is also #3 overall at TDN big board. I'd prefer a trade down, but can't go wrong with Alt:

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