2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[Topcat]

Tony Pauline has been around for quite a while. Just like Mel Kiper and the rest, I don't take his mock draft and scouting reports seriously, but I'm sure he's being honest about what he's heard regarding NFL teams' concerns with Nabers. I don't know who Jordan Schultz is, but I think he needs to get a grip if he's "disgusted" about this report from Pauline:

“The LSU junior is known as a high-maintenance prospect who may struggle in a big city. There are off-the-field questions Nabers has had to answer during the draft process, and teams must feel comfortable with those answers if they’re going to invest an early draft pick and millions of dollars in his services.”

It kind of reminds me of the reports that were labeled as bullshit about Robert Griffin III prior to the 2012 NFL Draft, in which anonymous teammates said he was fake and selfish. Well, it turned to be true.

At the very least, Nabers appears to be a classic high maintenance WR diva...at the worst, a careless, gun-toting party animal who is a ticking time bomb ready to explode a la Rashee Rice or Henry Ruggs...PASS...

[Topcat]

I watched oline tape all weekend, when I wasnt hitting the honey-do list...came away with these nuggets on the top guys, plus a glance at a couple day 2 guys...

I got Latham above Fuaga. I love the intensity of Fuagas game...always gravitate towards those type of prospects...but Latham doesnt make mistakes like him...he doesnt whiff, and never looks lost. Fuagas tape is good...Lathams is better, against better competition. Lathams measurables are off the charts...size, arm length, giant hands...and despite his 360 plus weight, he manages to track down speed rushers and engulf them...grip strength and anchor is crazy...technically more polished. His floor and ceiling are higher, imo...early in the process, his weight bothered me...but Herbert would have him dialed in.

My rankings for RIGHT tackle

Latham
Fuaga
Alt
Fautanu
Olu Fashanu
Mims

Day 2 nuggets

I do not get Guyton...he is very raw...not good at all...lot of work needed on a size/athletic projection.

Suamataia a bit better...but makes too many mistakes...also needs work...I do like him, but IF he beat out Pip, there would be growing pains

Blake Fisher. Why is this kid so low? He is really good...I got him above both Guyton and Suamataia...much better than both at pass pro...a little light on power, but uses skill to runblock...plenty of frame for Ben Herbert to work with

I watched 2 full games min for those 3 guys, and ranked them.

Fisher
Suamataia
Guyton

The rest of the bunch I glanced at...nobody else moved the needle for me...just dont see them as having a shot at impacting the position anytime soon, and there are better players at positions of need for us, day 2. Not even sure the 3 I ranked unseat Pip...but I do like Fisher...think he is getting slept on a bit.

Just my eyes and my opinion, folks...

Might as well not risk it and take Latham @#11...reportedly Harbo really likes Latham...

[SuperChargedRodney37]

At the very least, Nabers appears to be a classic high maintenance WR diva...at the worst, a careless, gun-toting party animal who is a ticking time bomb ready to explode a la Rashee Rice or Henry Ruggs...PASS...

I think this report is a bunch of gamesmanship that some team fed Pauline to get out now. Happens every year. The report Pauline stated was an incident that occurred in February 2023!! He was a 20-year-old kid at the time. It was a charge that was a misdemeanor and later dopped. A full year has gone by with no new incidents to speak of. Add also the fact that Joe Hortiz attended the LSU Pro Day personally and felt good enough about this prospect to invite him to LA for one of the valuable Top-30 visits and from all the reports I've heard that visit blew away some of the staff enough to where there is a real discussion in the ranks as to who is their Top guy now.
Based on that, I would highly doubt he is off their board and still not firmly placed near the Top of it.

Will they select him over MHJ? We may get a chance to find out, but the BIG question is would they value the 1 extra pick in favor of not drafting him or Odunze should MHJ not be on the board.
That's why I keep saying people are underestimating the teams' feelings on Nabors and are coincidently overrating Thomas now.

[wu-dai clan]

Might as well not risk it and take Latham @#11...reportedly Harbo really likes Latham...

In the tragically underrated woodMock v4, the board was worked like a boss.
At #11 the best remaining highest speed option with blocking willingness was snagged before they knew what hit them.

Then, with Pipkins as fall back leverage, optimism over Latham, the one pure only ORT of the bunch was still there at #23.

I give myself a grade of A+.

[Bolt4Knob]

In the tragically underrated woodMock v4, the board was worked like a boss.
At #11 the best remaining highest speed option with blocking willingness was snagged before they knew what hit them.

Then, with Pipkins as fall back leverage, optimism over Latham, the one pure only ORT of the bunch was still there at #23.

I give myself a grade of A+.

I like this idea of getting Thomas at 11 and taking RT or CB at 23 (27) or better yet, with that early 2nd round pick from the Cardinals. Chargers could have 7 picks in the first 110

[Topcat]

In the tragically underrated woodMock v4, the board was worked like a boss.
At #11 the best remaining highest speed option with blocking willingness was snagged before they knew what hit them.

Then, with Pipkins as fall back leverage, optimism over Latham, the one pure only ORT of the bunch was still there at #23.

I give myself a grade of A+.

Actually Wood, I like your pick of Thomas @#11, but with Roman banging the table for a smash-mouth ground game, and Harbo probably in agreement, I'll guess they grab Latham @#11, then go with Beebe or Powers-Johnson @#23...maybe we go wideout in round 2, though LB is possible...imagine an O-line with Latham and Beebe opening up holes for our RB's the size of the Grand Canyon...

[Charge!]

At the very least, Nabers appears to be a classic high maintenance WR diva...at the worst, a careless, gun-toting party animal who is a ticking time bomb ready to explode a la Rashee Rice or Henry Ruggs...PASS...

In his highlight videos you can see him jawing and taunting defenders after many of his catches...... ge=reat talent but might be a headcase..... not a Harbaugh type of player like Bowers would be.....

[DerwinBosa]

Has us trading down with Atlanta, after the first four picks are quarterbacks. The Falcons move up for Harrison, which would be tough for me to pass on him, but I love getting Alt, Zach Frazier, Keon Coleman, and Payton Wilson. The 2025 mid-round pick is also included in the deal.

Just wondering, if Arizona takes Harrison, and we're offered these two deals, which one do you prefer?

Atlanta: 8th, 43rd, and 2025 second-round pick.
Minnesota: 11th and 23rd.

The Falcons could fall in love with Nabers, which would result in this trade offer. If Harbaugh and Hortiz are confident that the Giants will accept the trade offer from Minnesota, and the Titans will take Rome Odunze at #7, Alt could still be in play at #8.

https://theathletic.com/5394632/2024/04/08/nfl-mock-draft-2024-quarterbacks-drake-maye/

[Jack Burton]

Lots of talk about Payton falling.
Teams just don’t like that extensive injury history at that position. Just so much contact at LB.

[SuperChargedRodney37]

Lots of talk about Payton falling.
Teams just don’t like that extensive injury history at that position. Just so much contact at LB.

It's possible JPJ may fall outside the 1st as well due to injury concerns. For those that want to draft him he may be a good value in the early 2nd round. Theocratically, the Chargers can get him in the program and strengthen him up with the intent of starting him in 2025.
Assuming he falls where they see the value of the pick.

[Boltjolt]

Actually Wood, I like your pick of Thomas @#11, but with Roman banging the table for a smash-mouth ground game, and Harbo probably in agreement, I'll guess they grab Latham @#11, then go with Beebe or Powers-Johnson @#23...maybe we go wideout in round 2, though LB is possible...imagine an O-line with Latham and Beebe opening up holes for our RB's the size of the Grand Canyon...

Too high for both. I dont think we are taking a OC high now.

[dmac_bolt]

Dude - try harder.

well, fuck. Thank you, Blue. Seriously, thank YOU. Excuse my exuberance, I'm just a little choked up. Not one lazy SOB here has ever bothered to take the time to invest in me and help me to become more of what I can be. But you did. You cared, but even more - you're a giver.

Fuck those guys, Its all Blue now!