And With The 5th Pick Of The NFL Draft Chargers Select....Discussion

[Bolt4Knob]

Good point, Knob...we could parlay that 2nd rounder, #37 overall, drop down 10 slots to #47, and pick up a low 3rd rounder...a LOT of good talent in round 3...I think this is our best YEAR OF THE TRADE-DOWN in a LONG time...
(good thing TT, "Mr. Trade Up" is gone...

Agree - Mr Never Trade Down but only Trades Up is gone. not to mention he wasn't that good

Granted if the Chargers get any kind of draft capital for Bosa &/or Mike Williams, that might change my mind about trading back. But the idea of 6 picks by Round 4 and maybe 8 picks by Round 5 - if you hit the picks - could kickstart the turnaround. Now, if they take Bowers or Nabers, thats fine too as both players are very talented - couldn't go wrong

[Heatmiser]

If we can trade Bosa or Williams you are looking at 5th round picks for them. They both command huge salaries, have very poor injury histories and are not young guys (in NFL terms) any longer. And the Chargers are in desperate position so no leverage.

TG

[Topcat]

I don't see how Laiatu Latu isn't in consideration for the fifth pick by most here. He's listed between 6-4 and 6-5 and 265 pounds. He's had 23.5 sacks, 34 tackles for loss, and five forced fumbles the last two seasons. He won the Ted Hendricks and Lombardi Awards this season. He also led the nation with 64 pressures this season. The major concern with him is the neck injury he had while at Washington, but he was cleared medically at UCLA and has been dominant ever since.

Why can't we consider him with the fifth pick? Because he doesn't play offense? Because mock draft experts who have never worked in the NFL don't have him going in the top five?

Here's one that has Brock Bowers going 12th, three spots behind Latu: https://www.si.com/nfl/draft/news/20...jayden-daniels

Here's another one, which has Brock Bowers going 14th and Latu 27th: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2...th-top-10-qbs/

These "experts" are all over the place.

Imagine this: Tuli and Latu--bookend Edges...The "Polynesian Punch"...

[Bolt4Knob]

If we can trade Bosa or Williams you are looking at 5th round picks for them. They both command huge salaries, have very poor injury histories and are not young guys (in NFL terms) any longer. And the Chargers are in desperate position so no leverage.

TG

My predictions for Bosa and Williams are at best pick swaps in 2024 - like a Chargers 6th + Bosa for a teams 5th. Williams is like a 7th for a 6th. Maybe they get more if they push the pick back to 2025 and see how each plays in 2024. And if they just get pick swaps - I am fine with it. If they get more, all the better. Like you said, the Chargers don't have leverage. Like the Broncos with Wilson - Broncos fans think teams will trade for him though he has 37m guaranteed coming due. Bosa and Williams actually have ZERO guaranteed money and they probably still don't ahve value.

The player with value is Khalil Mack - a team like Detroit could be a prime trade candidate as they need to upgrade that defense a bit now. Day 2 pick for Mack.

[La Costa Boy]

I just saw a mock on CBS that had both Daniels and Penix go in the top 8 along with Williams and Maye. The game is afoot and these QB horny teams are going to pump these guys into the top 5 by April. This doesn't even include McCarthy if he comes out early. The combine always creates paper superstars at QB so let this year do it's thing. #5 will be a hot spot.

[richpjr]

I don't see how Laiatu Latu isn't in consideration for the fifth pick by most here. He's listed between 6-4 and 6-5 and 265 pounds. He's had 23.5 sacks, 34 tackles for loss, and five forced fumbles the last two seasons. He won the Ted Hendricks and Lombardi Awards this season. He also led the nation with 64 pressures this season. The major concern with him is the neck injury he had while at Washington, but he was cleared medically at UCLA and has been dominant ever since.

Why can't we consider him with the fifth pick? Because he doesn't play offense? Because mock draft experts who have never worked in the NFL don't have him going in the top five?

Here's one that has Brock Bowers going 12th, three spots behind Latu: https://www.si.com/nfl/draft/news/20...jayden-daniels

Here's another one, which has Brock Bowers going 14th and Latu 27th: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2...th-top-10-qbs/

These "experts" are all over the place.

A lot of things are still TBD with who is cut and who is brought back so until that is done, we don't know what holes will be the most pressing to fill. If we cut/trade Bosa and Mack, we have a giant hole at edge rusher so someone like Latu would make more sense. I think he'd be available lower than 5 so if we go edge, trading back and taking him would make more sense.

[Bolt4Knob]

I just saw a mock on CBS that had both Daniels and Penix go in the top 8 along with Williams and Maye. The game is afoot and these QB horny teams are going to pump these guys into the top 5 by April. This doesn't even include McCarthy if he comes out early. The combine always creates paper superstars at QB so let this year do it's thing. #5 will be a hot spot.

That would be the best case scenario that 4 QBs go in the top 8 picks. That would leave Nabers, MHJr, Bowers and an OT for the other 4 picks. Chargers could possibly trade back and still get the WR or TE. And even at 8, could evaluate and drop back more

Granted, if they were to stay at 5 and get MHJr, Nabers or Bowers - wouldn't complain,.

[WindsorUK]

Imagine this: Tuli and Latu--bookend Edges...The "Polynesian Punch"...

Tongan Terrors?
Tongan Heat?

[WindsorUK]

That would be the best case scenario that 4 QBs go in the top 8 picks. That would leave Nabers, MHJr, Bowers and an OT for the other 4 picks. Chargers could possibly trade back and still get the WR or TE. And even at 8, could evaluate and drop back more

Granted, if they were to stay at 5 and get MHJr, Nabers or Bowers - wouldn't complain,.

Nabers just doesn't have the top end speed, burst you'd expect from a top 5 pick.
Interesting to see what times he puts in at Indy. Whilst I realize football speed is different, the few assessments I've read about him suggest he's not that guy who's going to outrun coverage. We've already got the technicians( KA, Palmer). We need speed!
Take a flyer in the 3rd, 4th round( hopefully we'll end up with multiple picks in a few rounds) on a guy who can really move.

[Icebolt]

If Marvin H.Jr is there at 5 you take him!.
BUT... If gone then we need to draft BEEF. Would love to draft a game breaking TE but Gates (FA)and Kelse (3rd)were not top picks. There are as many bust 1st round TE as there are gems found later rounds. Go for the sure thing. GET the TOP OL.
If there is a run on QB then trade down and still get a top OL.

[Bolt4Knob]

Nabers just doesn't have the top end speed, burst you'd expect from a top 5 pick.
Interesting to see what times he puts in at Indy. Whilst I realize football speed is different, the few assessments I've read about him suggest he's not that guy who's going to outrun coverage. We've already got the technicians( KA, Palmer). We need speed!
Take a flyer in the 3rd, 4th round( hopefully we'll end up with multiple picks in a few rounds) on a guy who can really move.

Not that we will see draft grades - but the big 4 WR are MHJr, Nabers, Odunze and Coleman from Florida State -- JEremiah has Odunze as his top WR after MHJr if I remember what he said correctly. Eye of the beholder stuff

Looking at the Top 8
Bears either keep Fields or trade him and pick a QB
Washington probably picking QB
NE - who knows
Arizona - MHJr if he is there; if not, they do not need TE as McBride is pretty good so I can OT since they just lost their OT Humphries
Chargers
Giants - probably not OT so maybe they go Bowers or WR
Titans - I think they go OT as they had the worst OL in football plus they have Levis at QB
Atlanta - do they trade up

The Chargers need Daniels and Penix to be risers in the draft. But unless somebody overpays or he is gone, my pick would be Bowers. My guess, there are more good WRs in R2 -R4 than TEs.

[La Costa Boy]

That would be the best case scenario that 4 QBs go in the top 8 picks. That would leave Nabers, MHJr, Bowers and an OT for the other 4 picks. Chargers could possibly trade back and still get the WR or TE. And even at 8, could evaluate and drop back more

Granted, if they were to stay at 5 and get MHJr, Nabers or Bowers - wouldn't complain,.

That mock had us nab Nabers.