And With The 5th Pick Of The NFL Draft Chargers Select....Discussion

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  • richpjr
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    Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
    NYG paid Daniel Jones 40 mil a year. I don't think they are desperate or they wouldn't have paid him.

    If they draft another QB and try to trade Jones, I'm not sure anybody would want him for that price, let alone give a pick for him.
    As mentioned above, they have an easy out after next season so they could draft a QB and either have him sit for a year or if he wins the starting job, have a very good backup in Jones for a year.

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    • richpjr
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      Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

      Daniels had a reg season rating of 70. They sure did pay him, that doesn’t mean they didn’t fuck up. I’m ok with them denying it another season and sucking longer but its inevitable.

      Every Daboll fanboy in TPB, and there’s a many, insist he’s a great coach and it’s only his QB that has denied him the rep deserved. I agree his QB sucks, still waiting on that if-not but greatness part but thats just me.
      Wink sure doesn't think he is great!

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      • Bolt4Knob
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        Originally posted by richpjr View Post

        Wink sure doesn't think he is great!
        When one looks at the resume of one Don "Wink" Martindale - they see he was the DC at Western Kentucky from 2000-2003. The head coach at that time was a man by the name of Jack Harbaugh. I think I read Jim used to hang around at times kind of as a volunteer

        Just connecting the dots... granted, would prefer Minter but Wink wouldn't stink.

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        • Chargers8491
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          There is talk on here about trading back and picking up more picks but not much about staying put, and trading back into the 1st rnd. If you are of the opinion that the Chargers have a lot of holes to fill then the likelihood that they fill them all in one year is highly unlikely. Wouldn't it be better if they get a couple cornerstone pieces?
          Time to put my money where my mouth is: Hampton will be better than Jeanty!

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          • Bolt4Knob
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            Originally posted by Chargers8491 View Post
            There is talk on here about trading back and picking up more picks but not much about staying put, and trading back into the 1st rnd. If you are of the opinion that the Chargers have a lot of holes to fill then the likelihood that they fill them all in one year is highly unlikely. Wouldn't it be better if they get a couple cornerstone pieces?
            No - because the risk is too high that the pick might be another top ten pick,.

            Now for Houston, that worked out fine as they were very good so the pick for AZ will be in the 20's and not top 5. But I would prefer to keep picks and not push my chips in just yet. I don't want to give up the future now when the Chargers are picking high enough in Round 2 to get another solid player

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            • charger1_sj
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              Originally posted by Chargers8491 View Post
              There is talk on here about trading back and picking up more picks but not much about staying put, and trading back into the 1st rnd. If you are of the opinion that the Chargers have a lot of holes to fill then the likelihood that they fill them all in one year is highly unlikely. Wouldn't it be better if they get a couple cornerstone pieces?
              It's going to depend on how things shake out on draft day. Study the top picks and who needs a QB and you'll understand why trading down can be a viable choice.

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              • Chargers8491
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                Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                No - because the risk is too high that the pick might be another top ten pick,.

                Now for Houston, that worked out fine as they were very good so the pick for AZ will be in the 20's and not top 5. But I would prefer to keep picks and not push my chips in just yet. I don't want to give up the future now when the Chargers are picking high enough in Round 2 to get another solid player
                I totally get that, but hypothetically if the Chargers take either Nabers/Bowers @5 and the other one is still on the board @ 8-10 would you trade back into the 1st to pick the other one? Or if MHJ is there at #5 you take him and Bowers is on the Board say at #10 would you trade back into the 1st to pick him up? I believe I would. Herbert/ wr of choice/ Bowers would be solid building blocks for the future.
                Time to put my money where my mouth is: Hampton will be better than Jeanty!

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                • Chargers8491
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                  Originally posted by charger1_sj View Post

                  It's going to depend on how things shake out on draft day. Study the top picks and who needs a QB and you'll understand why trading down can be a viable choice.
                  Oh don't get me wrong I totally understand why trading down is a viable choice but I also see viability into trading back in to the 1st rnd.
                  Time to put my money where my mouth is: Hampton will be better than Jeanty!

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                  • Boltjolt
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                    Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                    Daniels had a reg season rating of 70. They sure did pay him, that doesn’t mean they didn’t fuck up. I’m ok with them denying it another season and sucking longer but its inevitable.

                    Every Daboll fanboy in TPB, and there’s a many, insist he’s a great coach and it’s only his QB that has denied him the rep deserved. I agree his QB sucks, still waiting on that if-not but greatness part but thats just me.
                    Oh they did fuck up. No way id have paid him 40 mil. And that is what im saying. They cant trade that. Sure they can draft another QB but who is going to trade for Jones and his contract? He has 36 mil guaranteed this season. 2024 anyway he is going to cost the Giants.

                    Signing him to that deal was just terrible.
                    1. Mason Taylor TE LSU
                    2. Quinshon Judkins RB Ohio st
                    3. Kyle Kennard Edge So. Carolina
                    ✓
                    4. CJ West DT Indiana
                    5. Don'te Thornton WR Tennessee
                    6. Zah Frazier CB UTSA
                    6. Jarquez Hunter RB Auburn
                    6. Jay Higgins LB Iowa
                    6. Hunter Wohler S Wisconsin
                    7. Carson Vinson OT Alabama

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                    • Boltjolt
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                      Originally posted by Chargers8491 View Post

                      I totally get that, but hypothetically if the Chargers take either Nabers/Bowers @5 and the other one is still on the board @ 8-10 would you trade back into the 1st to pick the other one? Or if MHJ is there at #5 you take him and Bowers is on the Board say at #10 would you trade back into the 1st to pick him up? I believe I would. Herbert/ wr of choice/ Bowers would be solid building blocks for the future.
                      No...we cant afford to be giving picks away. We would either need to trade back to #8 and get extra picks or just draft one at #5.

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                      1. Mason Taylor TE LSU
                      2. Quinshon Judkins RB Ohio st
                      3. Kyle Kennard Edge So. Carolina
                      ✓
                      4. CJ West DT Indiana
                      5. Don'te Thornton WR Tennessee
                      6. Zah Frazier CB UTSA
                      6. Jarquez Hunter RB Auburn
                      6. Jay Higgins LB Iowa
                      6. Hunter Wohler S Wisconsin
                      7. Carson Vinson OT Alabama

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                      • Bolt4Knob
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                        Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                        No...we cant afford to be giving picks away. We would either need to trade back to #8 and get extra picks or just draft one at #5.

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                        Agreed, trading back into the top 10 in addition to the 5th pick would cost way too much. If the board looks okay after the 4th pick, trading back makes sense. But if only two QBs for in the first four picks - might be okay to stay put. Granted, if Daniels is there - some team might really overpay - which wouldn't be bad

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                        • La Costa Boy
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                          Any word or feel yet on the comp pick situation? How many have been awarded and what round(s)?

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