Official 2025 NFL Draft Superthread | Prospect Discussion

[beachcomber]

It’s really hard to evaluate this team given how big of a mess they are. Brennan Presley and Ollie Gordon are their two skill guys worth talking about. I’m just not sure if they’re any good or if there’s something here but they can’t succeed on this team.

Presley had eight receptions but it was for 42 yards. Mostly nonsense underneath stuff. Looks small and skinny too without being the explosive horse athlete. Looks like probably nothing.

Gordon had four carries for 10 yards. He got outrushed by three other running backs on his own team. Maybe they’re just shutting him down but it’s another performance Colorado stopped the run well. It’s also another performance Gordon did nothing. Right now he’s a walking red flag that you hope can take the Chuba Hubbard path and eventually figure it out after an odd up and down college career. What else is there to say?

If anybody is going to become the next Gus Edwards, it’s this Rahjai Harris. I know what you’re going to say. Trey, you’re biased from the video game series. I’m not. Harris has potential. Guy runs hard and can break tackles.

This highlight isn’t from the Navy game but this is who Harris is in a nutshell. Broken tackle machine and isn’t a total turd in terms of speed.

Yes, it’s a game against Navy so take it with a grain of salt but Harris is the offense. ECU was running this nonsense up-tempo style so that they could hurry up and punt it right back. Navy, if anything, should be prepared to stop the run. The wide receivers on ECU were also drop machines. Harris is the offense. He would look way better if they stopped this up tempo nonsense and got out of the everything has to be shotgun mode. 19 carries for 88 yards in this one. I truly think he’s an NFL back.

Nazir Stackhouse deserves some love. The problem is he doesn’t have Jalen Carter next to him. That’s really the flaw in this Georgia defense. Mykel Williams is a really damn good player but was kept mostly in check in this one.

James Pearce led FBS in pressure rate heading into the game. I’ve stated weeks ago I don’t really need to see more I’m already in. He didn’t do a ton in this game and don’t care.

[beachcomber]

Raheim Rocket Sanders is so back. He looks good and healthy. Speed and power elements continue to show. Horrific fumble on a screen pass that can’t happen. Wasn’t an overly sexy performance but I love his traits. Especially that he’s getting better in the passing game. It’s a tough defense to run on. Clemson has NFL defensive front players. 3.3 yards per carry but imposing once he gets a full head of steam going. I’m very much back in on him. A matter of how high he will be on my list. Wouldn’t expect him to lead that charge but is very much in the mix.

Damien Martinez looked good again. Amazing what’s transpired since it’s become more of a committed. Working Mark Fletcher more into the rotation has maximized what we’re seeing from Martinez. He had a 60 yard touchdown run called back because of a penalty. His day looks much better along with that. Still had 10 carries for 84 yards and a score. Rhamondre Stevenson is the comp but I think he has a shot to be a better version of that. Not sure he will be as good in the pass catching department but his hands aren’t the problem. More so harder to tackle and needs to get the feet moving first.

Let’s close this part out with our weekly power rankings of the Miami targets. Putting Elijah Arroyo to the side because he’s continuing to show the potential as a game wrecking tight end.

Talk about strides and improvements. This Gunnar Helm keeps getting better and better. Looks more like a real receiver every day while keeping that Gumby WTF was that stuff at the same time. Tall, agile, and hurdling people? I liked Ja’Tavion Sanders coming out. I’m now no longer sure if there is a big game between the two. Helm looks very much like a draftable player.

Nic Scourton. How good is he? That’s the real challenging part. You have to tier things in your mind. What’s the gap between good and great? Clearly Scourton is a player but how good is he? Never wrecked the game in this one. Transfer from Purdue. Made a few tackles but never felt like he wrecked the game. Obviously didn’t. I don’t know where people stand on him. I’m not out but there’s a line for me. How high are we going here? That’s what I want to know.

[beachcomber]

Maybe Jack Sawyer is better than Sam Hubbard… Still convinced he and JTT are playing too many snaps. People are going to hold it against them for not having enough sack production. I think it’s a school problem. Some nerd who has the number on that feel free to send it to me.

[Boltjolt]

It’s amazing how big of a part of the offense that Tyler Warren is. I still don’t really know how good he is. Pertty decent athlete. Not a clunky mover. Not sure he’s an A hands catcher. Does he scare you in terms of gameplanning? Does he command double teams? I’m not sure about the whole blue chip thing here. He’s an odd player to watch. He’s like an H-back but a way better receiver than to describe him that but also not going to high point and do the Gesicki things. A playmaker but is he really a unicorn like Gronk? Seven catches for 84 yards. He’s been doing good things all year. I just don’t know how you can think what he’s doing is 100% translating to NFL football.

Who is the guy you are quoting that said that?

That is exactly where I'm at with Warren. He isn't a blue chip imo but neither is Loveland. I'm still not sure which I like better but I do think Harbaugh would maybe pick his guy. Warren has the little edge in blocking tho imo so maybe not. They are pretty close.

Still more tape to watch but that's nearly to a T how I feel. And it took him 5 years to play this way. Granted he wasn't a starter from year one like Bowers but still didn't really shine til year 5.
He was decent in year 4 and had to share targets with Theo Johnson. Both had 34 receptions, both had 7 TDs and Theo was a 4th round pick.

Not saying Warren is. ..he won't be. But do i feel good about him in the first round? Just not sure yet. Glad someone else feels the same 😉
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[beachcomber]

https://www.pff.com/draft/big-board?season=2025

1) ED Mykel Williams, DT Kenneth Grant
2) OG Jonah Savaiinaea, DT Deone Walker
3) OG Donovan Jackson
4) TE Oronde Gadsden II * this is Devin Neal/Cam Skattebo territory
5) CB Domani Jackson
7) CB JaCobee Bryant, WR Bru McCoy, DT Howard Cross * Nick Singleton/Raheim Sanders were available round six

8) RB Damien Martinez, NT Nazir Stackhouse

[beachcomber]

Who is the guy you are quoting that said that?

That is exactly where I'm at with Warren. He isn't a blue chip imo but neither is Loveland. I'm still not sure which I like better but I do think Harbaugh would maybe pick his guy. Warren has the little edge in blocking tho imo so maybe not. They are pretty close.

Still more tape to watch but that's nearly to a T how I feel. And it took him 5 years to play this way. Granted he wasn't a starter from year one like Bowers but still didn't really shine til year 5.
He was decent in year 4 and had to share targets with Theo Johnson. Both had 34 receptions, both had 7 TDs and Theo was a 4th round pick.

Not saying Warren is. ..he won't be. But do i feel good about him in the first round? Just not sure yet. Glad someone else feels the same 😉
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it's your boy.... Trey Daubert,

you trashed him last time, and.... who's your pundit/draftnik of choice ??

personally enjoy Daubert more than most anyone else, and....

just can't put the TEs in my cluster.... not movin' off of DT/ED to start things off, and until the two OGs are off the board, value them more than skill position players atm....

[beachcomber]

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/7-round-2025-nfl-mock-draft-infante-december-2024/

1) TE Tyler Warren, RB Kaleb Johnson, OG Jonah Savaiinaea, DT Omarr Norman Lott, DE JT Tuimoloau, DT Deone Walker, TE Colston Loveland
2) WR Tre Harris, OG Donovan Jackson, ED Mike Green, ED Jack Sawyer, WR Elic Ayomanor, TE Harold Fanin Jr, S Kevin Winston
3) NT Nazir Stackhouse, RB Omarion Hampton, RB TreVeyon Henderson, RB Nicholas Singleton, CB Darien Porter, CB JaCobee Bryant, WR Jack Bech
4) DT Howard Cross, RB Raheim Sanders
5) TE Gunnar Helm, RB Cam Skattebo, S Rod Moore, WR Savion Williams, TE Oronde Gadsden II, ED RJ Oben
6) TE Elijah Arroyo, CB Domani Jackson, RB Dylan Sampson, RB Devin Neal, RB Jaydn Ott, RB Tahj Brooks
7) CB Ricardo Hallman, WR Bru McCoy

[Chargers8491]

Who is the guy you are quoting that said that?

That is exactly where I'm at with Warren. He isn't a blue chip imo but neither is Loveland. I'm still not sure which I like better but I do think Harbaugh would maybe pick his guy. Warren has the little edge in blocking tho imo so maybe not. They are pretty close.

Still more tape to watch but that's nearly to a T how I feel. And it took him 5 years to play this way. Granted he wasn't a starter from year one like Bowers but still didn't really shine til year 5.
He was decent in year 4 and had to share targets with Theo Johnson. Both had 34 receptions, both had 7 TDs and Theo was a 4th round pick.

Not saying Warren is. ..he won't be. But do i feel good about him in the first round? Just not sure yet. Glad someone else feels the same 😉
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You should take a look a Helm when you get done with Warren.

[beachcomber]

my Xmas big board atm,

X) WR Tetairoa McMillan

1) DT Kenneth Grant, DT Deone Walker, ED Mykel Williams
2) OG Donovan Jackson, DE JT Tuimoloau, OG Jonah Savaiinaea, OG Josh Conerly Jr., OG Marcus Mbow, ED Jack Sawyer
3) DT Omarr Norman Lott, S Kevin Winston
4) CB JaCobee Bryant
5) CB Domani Jackson
5) TE Oronde Gadsden II, TE Elijah Arroyo
6) RB Devin Neal
6) S Rod Moore
6) DT Howard Cross
7) ED RJ Oben
7) RB Raheim Sanders, LB Cody Simon, WR Jayden Higgins, WR Bru McCoy

[CanadianBoltFan]

Yeah, the Buckeyes are taking it to the Vols. Henderson and Judkins are looking good.

Every Ohio St game I have watched I come away more impressed with Henderson than Judkins, Just way more explosive with better YPC

[CanadianBoltFan]

Jack Sawyer is a bit of a goof. Was mouthing off when he got to Ohio St they would dominate Michigan, they are 0-4 in his tenure. He was one of the main guys that started the brawl after the flag planting. And he was mouthing off today at Tennessee players before the game even started.

[CanadianBoltFan]

Who is the guy you are quoting that said that?

That is exactly where I'm at with Warren. He isn't a blue chip imo but neither is Loveland. I'm still not sure which I like better but I do think Harbaugh would maybe pick his guy. Warren has the little edge in blocking tho imo so maybe not. They are pretty close.

Still more tape to watch but that's nearly to a T how I feel. And it took him 5 years to play this way. Granted he wasn't a starter from year one like Bowers but still didn't really shine til year 5.
He was decent in year 4 and had to share targets with Theo Johnson. Both had 34 receptions, both had 7 TDs and Theo was a 4th round pick.

Not saying Warren is. ..he won't be. But do i feel good about him in the first round? Just not sure yet. Glad someone else feels the same 😉
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I think he is a sigficantly better blocker than Loveland. I like that he has over 600 yards after catch. He is a beast to bring down.