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  • JOJAX85
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    #6481
    Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
    I get it. I wouldn't want to be a coach or GM in this day and age.

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    • Charge!
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      #6482
      Originally posted by rensoul View Post

      It's an interesting scenario, Hall is still only 23 years old and is very talented and this draft is considered loaded at RB. If that helps drives down his trade value then I think it's a good opportunity.
      agree..... there are a number of players that could be traded in mid to late draft if teams are not successful getting what they wanted earlier....

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      • Charge!
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        #6483
        I have heard rumors on NFL radio that DEN has been trying to trade up in draft to get ahead of colts to snag Loveland.... also just hear rumors that DEN is taking calls from teams trying to trade up to Denvers spot?

        both might be true and none might be true... lol

        no smart organization reveals anything on draft day unless maybe they have the first pick and have already made their decision.....so not sure where the rumors come from?...maybe just reporters or youtubers making things up?

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        • DerwinBosa
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          #6484
          Originally posted by Boltinloudguy View Post
          Looks like Breece Hall is on the trade block. I’d see if the Jets would take a 4th for him. Hall and Harris would be a great 1-2 punch IMO.
          If we don't get one of the top running backs in the first three rounds I will be down with this. I would rather have Hall than Cam Skattebo. Hall is a good back playing on a bad team.

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          • CanadianBoltFan
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            #6485
            Originally posted by rensoul View Post

            It's an interesting scenario, Hall is still only 23 years old and is very talented and this draft is considered loaded at RB. If that helps drives down his trade value then I think it's a good opportunity.
            Agreed he is still a good player. I just haven't forgiven him after I used the 2nd overall fantasy pick on him and he was complete shit all year.

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            • Boltjolt
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              #6486
              Originally posted by eaterfan View Post

              I strongly disagree with your eval. I just see Taylor as a worse blocking Hunter Henry. I'm not spending anything near a first rounder from that. He just doesn't have the burst to ever be a top flight TE or the blocking to be an all around star. Hunter Henry is nice, but you can get that in FA every year.

              I think all three DTs have potential to be game changers. At least one will be left at 22.
              Hmm,....ok, Do you you think Warren has burst? Would you take him at 22?
              He is the slowest of the three. He really benefitted from Penn st having a weak WR group last season.

              Henry was the best blocking TE in his draft and known as a good run blocker coming out. None of these top TEs are as good as him in that regard.

              But we'll see. I think Taylor plays so smooth some will conclude he isn't trying real hard or just went unnoticed in a offense that is WR U.

              That said if we draft a DT im good with that but those guys usually aren't studs in year one. In the last 20 years the Ravens have drafted a DT in round 1 once ....in 2006 at #12 for Halotti Ngata.

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              • Boltjolt
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                #6487
                Originally posted by CanadianBoltFan View Post

                Clearly you did not have Hall on your fantasy team last year! 😉
                Lol,....I did and he was just ok. Not what I was expecting. Chalk it up to shitty OL?

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                • Eurobolt
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                  #6488
                  Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                  Do you you think Warren has burst? Would you take him at 22?
                  He is the slowest of the three. He really benefitted from Penn st having a weak WR group last season.

                  Henry was the best blocking TE in his draft and known as a good run blocker coming out. None of these top TEs are as good as him in that regard.

                  But we'll see. I think Taylor plays so smooth some will conclude he isn't trying real hard or just went unnoticed in a offense that is WR U.

                  That said if we draft a DT im good with that but those guys usually aren't studs in year one.
                  Warren 40 time 4.68 guess which quite good TE had 4.68 time - Gronkowski.
                  Height 1.98 - both.
                  Weight almost the same 118 to 120.

                  3 cones Warren is slightly quicker.

                  I am not saying he will be next thing to Gronk.

                  But I can see what kind of TE he is and that is not a finesse one like Gates, more like bulldozer.

                  I would pick him at 22 in millisecond.

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                  • JOJAX85
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                    #6489
                    Originally posted by Eurobolt View Post

                    Warren 40 time 4.68 guess which quite good TE had 4.68 time - Gronkowski.
                    Height 1.98 - both.
                    Weight almost the same 118 to 120.

                    3 cones Warren is slightly quicker.

                    I am not saying he will be next thing to Gronk.

                    But I can see what kind of TE he is and that is not a finesse like Gates, more like bulldozer.

                    I would pick him at 22 in millisecond.
                    I'd pick him at 9.

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                    • Charge!
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                      #6490
                      Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                      Hmm,....ok, Do you you think Warren has burst? Would you take him at 22?
                      He is the slowest of the three. He really benefitted from Penn st having a weak WR group last season.

                      Henry was the best blocking TE in his draft and known as a good run blocker coming out. None of these top TEs are as good as him in that regard.

                      But we'll see. I think Taylor plays so smooth some will conclude he isn't trying real hard or just went unnoticed in a offense that is WR U.

                      That said if we draft a DT im good with that but those guys usually aren't studs in year one.
                      I and most experts think the first 2 TE's are elite playmakers...... and top 10 talents.... The rest of this TE class is clearly a huge step below the top 2 BUT much better than most TE classes(most are not usually very good)....

                      I agree that this DT class is great and deep because not only are there many run stuffers there are also several whop can creat a disruptive pass rush, and we need both qualities....

                      if those top 2 TE's are gone by the Indy pick, we will definitely ahve a shot at a great DT or pass rusher.... no need to draft RB unless Jeanty drops to us...which will never happen... lol and no need to draft any of the WR's in first round because they are not great players like the DT's and pass rushers are .... at 22 we need to be taking a great instant starter if they are available..... and pleas no reaching for OG's.....there will be OG's available day 2 or 3....

                      We should end up with a great starter at pick 22...

                      Gonna be interesting how this draft unfolds....

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                      • Fleet 1
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                        #6491
                        People always underestimate the heart of a Hawaiian. LIfe here isnt easy. Most struggle. Especially real Hawaiians. They are losing their homes hand over fist. Tet is a legend here. He is worshipped. All Hawaiian NFL players are. There is so much pride in the work. And the work ethic. To say he doesnt love football is just bullshit. He wont let his state down. His people. He wants to build a better Hawaii. And he cant do that with not caring about his future.

                        Sure i likely rank him way up there due to homerism. And steve smith had Ladd ranked 8th. Just tired of the bashing and attempts to drive good players stocks down. He is a contested catch beast. He is Mike Williams who i never thought was worth the 7th pick. Most of the WRs in the draft are likely 2nd rounders in last years draft. But Tet has legit Higgins vibes. And he was drafted top of round 2 due to some of the same question marks as Tet.

                        Tet at 22 is a fine choice imo. Not upset if he falls there and we selected him. Perfect fit for Justin and his game. And perfect exit for MW after one season. I still think Keenan is coming back if a WR we want doesnt fall to us. So im not stressed on the position yet.

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                        • eaterfan
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                          #6492
                          Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                          Do you you think Warren has burst? Would you take him at 22?
                          He is the slowest of the three. He really benefitted from Penn st having a weak WR group last season.

                          Henry was the best blocking TE in his draft and known as a good run blocker coming out. None of these top TEs are as good as him in that regard.

                          But we'll see. I think Taylor plays so smooth some will conclude he isn't trying real hard or just went unnoticed in a offense that is WR U.

                          That said if we draft a DT im good with that but those guys usually aren't studs in year one.
                          I think he's more sudden than Taylor, and he's an all round TE. His blocking is miles ahead of Taylor. With him on the field you have the defense guessing. With Taylor out there, you know he's running a route.

                          This team isn't winning the SB this year. I'm fine with a player taking a year to develop. It's not like TEs generally hit the ground running, either. Edge, WR, or RB are the positions most likely to make an immediate impact.

                          Even the all time great TEs generally have fewer yards as a rookie than an average Conklin year:

                          Gonzalez:
                          image.pngGates:
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                          Gronkowski:
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                          Kelce:
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                          Most of these are even worse than what Dissly did last year.

                          I'm fine with taking a TE, but other than Bowers, none of the greats has had much of an impact as a rookie.​

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