2018 NFL Mock Drafts

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  • charger1993
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    Originally posted by Formula 21 View Post

    Great choice on O Daniel who is a special teams demon. We need specialist like that.

    7 is always good on a developmental lineman or qb. And there should be a decent rb there this year.
    I picked o daniel for a couple of reasons,.
    1. As you mentioned special teams.
    2. In case adrian goes down he can be thrown in that in the box down at the line type of role for coverage.
    3. Fast learner.
    4. Flexible defense.

    And 7th round there were just to many positions we could take. So i just let the mock have it..

    The one pick that scares me in my own mock is toliver he was very grabby in college. But when i picked him i did so with the he might can play safety leting us play kind at corner if verrett goes down.

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  • Formula 21
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    Originally posted by charger1993 View Post
    1.vander esch is probably the pick
    2.ronnie harrison s alabama
    3.kelvin tolvier 2 cb lsu
    4. Dt round harrison philips/bj hill
    5.nick gates ot nebraska
    6.dorian o daniel clemson
    7.garbage pick. Maybe a rb
    Great choice on O Daniel who is a special teams demon. We need specialist like that.

    7 is always good on a developmental lineman or qb. And there should be a decent rb there this year.

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  • charger1993
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    1.vander esch is probably the pick
    2.ronnie harrison s alabama
    3.kelvin tolvier 2 cb lsu
    4. Dt round harrison philips/bj hill
    5.nick gates ot nebraska
    6.dorian o daniel clemson
    7.garbage pick. Maybe a rb

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  • Formula 21
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    Time to blow this nuts.

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  • Steve
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    Allen was sort of a prototype 34 DE. Hurst is kinda a smallish 43 DT. Not really small, just small for an interior player, and with Payne (320+) and Vea (340+), he seems sorta small compared to some of the other players with similar grades.

  • blueman
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    Or Bryan.

  • Steve
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    With the underwear olympics coming up, a lot of big guys are going to get knocked down a lot in the mock drafts. Once 40 times and measureables start to come out, the mock draft crowd always start to fall in love with guys who are good (not great) players and then they see the numbers and they blow a nut. Happens every year. I think most NFL teams have already made up their minds, and just use the numbers to answer questions on guys.

    If you see a RB and he always seems to be getting caught from behind, and then he runs a bad 40, then you are sure he doesn't have break away speed. Of course, if he is a short yardage specialist, then you probably don't care, but if he is a 3rd down back, he might not be the guy you want to spend a draft pick on.

    But if a guy you have watched run away from everyone on the field for 30 games of his college career runs a bad 40 time, it doesn't mean the guy is slow. It means he either doesn't know how to run on a track or he had a bad day. I watch so many guys run the 40 at the combine and they don't know what they are doing. Besides hurting their intelligence grades, it really doesn't mean much. Guys will take a false step on their start. Probably around half of them weave back and forth in the lane so their 40 time is really more like 45 yards. So just don't get too hung up on the measureables . If the guy can play, he can play.

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  • Steve
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    There are always going to be some teams that don't like a particular guy. Some teams value size more than others. If you want big guys, than you would put a really low grade on Hurst. The other thing that is going to hurt Hurst is that he is not nearly as quick as Donald. Donald routinely beats OL because he is so quick you can't touch him. Hurst is quick, but he is not that quick. Hurst does an excellent job of beating guys with leverage and technique as well as quickness. He simply gets under blockers pads and then he can control much larger players. Donald is going to be the obvious comparison because of size, although Hurst is taller. But the guy who may be the closest is actually Jack Youngblood, who was a 34 and 43 DE for the Rams in the late 70's and 1980's and was voted into the hall of fame in 2001. Youngblood was very difficult to block because he could jack up any OL of the day. No OL could get lower than Youngblood, and I see some of that in Hurst. For teams that like the quick penetrating DT, then Hurst is going to have a really good grade.

    Vea is the best choice if you love size. The guy is huge and he plays big. He is sloppy, but he dominates even with poor technique. If you don't fall into the planet person type of draft strategy, than you aren't going to grade Vea that high, which is what I don't like about him. It is largely a matter of preference. We all have preferences.

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  • chargerkdb
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    He is on the smallish side for a DT. Could explain why some not as bullish on him

  • chargerkdb
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    Last edited by chargerkdb; 02-14-2018, 12:40 PM.

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  • Fleet
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    He'll probably get the Donald comparison simply because if his first step. DL in college with an extremely fast first step often equate to tackles in the backfield. His gap awareness and ability to get into the backfield make him one of the best if not the best in the country. Hes already being bashed and forced down in most Gurus mocks. Mostly because of the reports of NFL staffs saying hes just a 2nd rounder. But teams do this when they like players. I think hes a top 15 player. I think his combine will be much better than Jon Allens. And he went 17th overall. Hes a better more polished prospect than Allen. They are the same size essentially.

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  • bonehead
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    What current NFL DT does Hurst compare to?

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