Brian Daboll OC Bills - Interviewed by Chargers - Staying With Bills

[BoltUp InLA]

AL has flaws for sure but he left our organization with a winning record, not many others of our coaching tree have been able to accomplish that.

Thank you!! And he left the Chargers overseeing the development of Herbert, which rarely if ever gets mentioned. I agree that Lynn had his flaws which lead to his dismissal, but he had some strengths also. The Chargers have had worse coaches in my opinion. I am tired of hearing how talented this uneven roster is, which always seem to struggle to have a competent O line under TT’s watch.

[SuperCharged]

whatever you call it.. Herbert thrived in it. Maybe, just maybe Steichen knew more about Herbert than the rest of us. It’s one thing to fit to our sensibilities, but the reality is that Herbert had an historic rookie season, which certainly speaks to the offensive coordinator as well being on the same page as his QB. There were plays he called during critical stretches of the game that I questioned also, but the overall result was the unexpected development of Herbert who also smashed previous historic records within that offensive system.. It should really be simple and the end of conversation on this really..

I find it funny that you're giving him all the credit. Like Herbert would be trash without him? LMAO!!! :wtf2:

I have NEVER ever seen coaching hamstring such a HUGE talent. Herbert is way to big for both of those scrubs. They are the least qualified at their respective positions in the NFL.

[madcaplaughs]

I watched a really good analysis of why New England coaches all fail once they leave New England (but they left Vrable off the table). Basically, it postulated that these coaches head into the new job just assuming that all the weird idiosyncrasies and irritating things that Belicheck does with the Patriots will just be accepted by the new players, front office, training staff, video staff, etc. And that everyone will not only accept it, they will get behind it and support it becauase they believe in the new coach. No way. They showed some really good examples of Joshy, Bill oBrien, and Patricia and how what they did made everyone in the organization hate them and also how their moves never paid off anyway. And screaming and yelling at players in front of other players and humiliating them was a big part of all three of those guys. They did say that Flores is the one example of a former New England coach who realized he cannot just replicate the ‘patriot way’ and that is why he is having some greater success

I wanted Patricia instead of Lynn. Boy was I wrong. And after watching him I don’t want him anywhere near this team.

TG

Good points. Belichik had a lot of people opt out this year. When you're not winning, that stuff gets old quick.

[SuperCharged]

Horizontal? I’m not sure you know what that means.
Herbert was a top 3 QB in the league with.....
completions over 50 yards with 9
completions over 40 yards with 14
Completions over 30 yards with 23

Exactly my point.... Thank you. He put up those numbers with stupid play calling all year. Pathetic play calling around the goal line. Whatever you couldn't convince me. Herbert is way to big of a talent for these super nice guys. Sorry just reality.

[like54ninjas]

Exactly my point.... Thank you. He put up those numbers with stupid play calling all year. Pathetic play calling around the goal line. Whatever you couldn't convince me. Herbert is way to big of a talent for these super nice guys. Sorry just reality.

You must believe in “alternative facts”.

[BoltUp InLA]

I find it funny that you're giving him all the credit. Like Herbert would be trash without him? LMAO!!! :wtf2:

I have NEVER ever seen coaching hamstring such a HUGE talent. Herbert is way to big for both of those scrubs. They are the least qualified at their respective positions in the NFL.

Are you just seeing what you want to see? I acknowledge the shortcomings of this past coaching staff, including Steichen. I also acknowledge the improbability of a QB, who many agreed was not a finished product coming out of college and was quite polarizing as well, to improve that dramatically coming from college to the pros without any help, but instead a coaching staff that held him back, and he still plays at an historic level?? I am just not buying it.

It never happened before or is remarkably rare and Herbert is no different in that young QBs are very influenced and limited by the early coaching they get in the NFL to succeed. If he were already Aaron Rogers, then I would think very differently about it.

[SuperCharged]

Are you just seeing what you want to see? I acknowledge the shortcomings of this past coaching staff, including Steichen. I also acknowledge the improbability of a QB, who many agreed was not a finished product coming out of college and was quite polarizing as well, to improve that dramatically coming from college to the pros without any help, but instead a coaching staff that held him back, and he still plays at an historic level?? I am just not buying it.

It never happened before or is remarkably rare and Herbert is no different in that young QBs are very influenced and limited by the early coaching they get in the NFL to succeed. If he were already Aaron Rogers, then I would think very differently about it.

No. You didn't see a problem with clock management most of the year???? How many 1 score losses again? Where there's smoke there's fire. 2018 was more on Rivers than Lynn's coaching ability. The collective Coaching grade for the Charges would be a generous D+.

[BoltUp InLA]

No. You didn't see a problem with clock management most of the year???? How many 1 score losses again? Where there's smoke there's fire. 2018 was more on Rivers than Lynn's coaching ability. The collective Coaching grade for the Charges would be a generous D+.

Again.. I acknowledge the shortcomings of the previous coaching staff with clock management and ST play, which heavily contributed to multiple close losses, but I refuse to erase or minimize the positive impact the offensive coaches had on Herbert’s development. The team also played hard, selfless, and mostly competed every game. Overall, Chargers have had worse coaching in my opinion.

[SuperCharged]

You must believe in “alternative facts”.

And you believe that Lynn is actually Head Coach material. LOL

[SuperCharged]

Again.. I acknowledge the shortcomings of the previous coaching staff with clock management and ST play, which heavily contributed to multiple close losses, but I refuse to erase or minimize the positive impact the offensive coaches had on Herbert’s development. The team also played hard, selfless, and mostly competed every game. Overall, Chargers have had worse coaching in my opinion.

I'm sure they had some nice coaching moments that helped JH understand the NFL. Great.

However I believe that his raw talent, being 6'6 mobile. Accurate. Smart. Howitzer for an arm. Those are things that JH brought to the table. I would wager he picked up some of the little things. But by no means did I notice a change from JH's game, from college to the pro's. JH's success, and skill level are because of himself not some 2nd rate coaches.

How many times did your vaunted coaches take the ball out of JH's hands late in a game? How many times did they turtle up and run the ball when JH was red hot?

They miss managed games and they mismanaged their young superstar. End of story. That is why you will seen an entire new coaching staff this next season. If they truly were as good as you think they wouldn't be fired.

Also I challenge you come back here and have me eat crow when Lynn gets another HC gig. Or Stiechen gets another OC job. I'll be waiting.

[like54ninjas]

And you believe that Lynn is actually Head Coach material. LOL

You cannot dispute that he was a HC with a career winning record.
Does he have flaws as a HC? Absolutely. Show me a coach who doesn’t.
I hope the next hire will satisfy you while winning a SB or 4 but you shouldn’t count on it.

[Lone Bolt]

I'm sure they had some nice coaching moments that helped JH understand the NFL. Great.

However I believe that his raw talent, being 6'6 mobile. Accurate. Smart. Howitzer for an arm. Those are things that JH brought to the table. I would wager he picked up some of the little things. But by no means did I notice a change from JH's game, from college to the pro's. JH's success, and skill level are because of himself not some 2nd rate coaches.

How many times did your vaunted coaches take the ball out of JH's hands late in a game? How many times did they turtle up and run the ball when JH was red hot?

They miss managed games and they mismanaged their young superstar. End of story. That is why you will seen an entire new coaching staff this next season. If they truly were as good as you think they wouldn't be fired.

Also I challenge you come back here and have me eat crow when Lynn gets another HC gig. Or Stiechen gets another OC job. I'll be waiting.

Challenge accepted....don't really care, but don't like blowhards... we are all fans here.

Pissing match with Ninja? Been there, done that...50 bucks on Ninja..lol

Just don't make a bet with him...