PFF is pissing me off again

[Steve]

Ok, so everyone knows how much I hate PFF and their grades. More proof that they are completely out to lunch.

Rivers ranked about the same as Kirk Cousins, and Kennan Allen not the top ranked WR of the week (not even close actually).

Someone at PFF is sniffing something.

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[Stinky Wizzleteats+]

Well Detroit fans can hang their hats on Calvin Johnson's 3 catches to take 15th best... Considering how easy three catches gets you into the top quartile of WRs by PFF rankings 15 catches should be good for a top 3 but what do I know...

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Wow, that's bad. I never thought it could be that screwed up.

[Formula 21]

DET-SD grades: Rough start for Lions’ Stafford-Johnson connection

Lions QB Matthew Stafford and WR Calvin Johnson connected only twice in Sunday's loss to the Chargers.
Thomas Maney | 4 hours ago
(AP Photo/Lenny Ignelzi)

(AP Photo/Lenny Ignelzi)

Here are the top takeaways and highest-graded players from Sunday’s Lions-Chargers game.
Detroit Lions

– Despite a fast start that resulted in an 18-point lead in the second quarter, the Lions couldn’t take advantage as the offense stalled in the second half. That was in part due to a lack of downfield passing; QB Matthew Stafford (-0.6) completed only three of his 10 passes thrown more than 1o yards downfield, and he especially struggled to connect with his top receiver, Calvin Johnson (0.9), who finished the game with only two receptions. Pressure was also a factor, as Stafford faced heat on 38.7 percent of his drop backs (only five QBs saw more frequent pressure on Sunday) with a -1.0 grade and 37.5 accuracy percentage on those plays.

– Defensively, the Lions limited the Chargers to 3.2 yards per carry on the ground, a good result considering the offseason departure of tackles Ndamukong Suh and Nick Fairley. DT Haloti Ngata (0.0) was double-teamed often and proved difficult to move, while another offseason addition, DT Tyrunn Walker (+1.8), put forth an impressive display after two seasons of good production in limited snaps with the Saints. Walker logged a career-high 57 snaps, collected seven pressures, and frequently squeezed the pocket with effective bull rushes against Chargers’ LG Orlando Franklin (-0.6) and C Chris Watt (-6.8).

– His fourth quarter fumble aside, rookie RB Ameer Abdullah (+0.4) provided a solid outing for the Lions (94 yards on just 11 touches). Check out 10:53 of the first quarter and 9:21 of the third quarter for his best plays. It will be interesting to see how the Lions continue to get him the ball going forward.

Top Performers:

LB Josh Bynes (+2.2)
DE Jason Jones (+1.8)
DT Tyrunn Walker (+1.8)
DE Phillip Hunt (+1.7)
RG Manuel Ramirez (+1.6)
San Diego Chargers

– QB Philip Rivers (+1.5) rallied the Chargers after a slow start, blitzing the Lions defense with screens and short passes. While his 92.7 accuracy percentage was the highest of any QB on Sunday (85.7 percent when pressured), 32 of his 41 attempts were thrown behind or within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage with his passes travelling less than 4 yards in the air, on average. It was nevertheless effective, as he frequently hit WR Keenan Allen (+1.7) (often on a shallow crossing route), who saw 11 more targets than any other player. The two combined for eight first downs and an average again of 9.8 yards.

– The game did not provide an encouraging start for the Chargers offensive line, which is coming off of a rough 2014 season. C Chris Watt (-6.8) and LG Orlando Franklin (-0.6) combined to allow more than 10 pressures. The only impressive member of the unit, RG D.J. Fluker (+2.2), was carted off of the field with an ankle injury.

– After an impressive—but injury-shortened—rookie season (+8.1 overall grade in 230 snaps), CB Jason Verrett (+2.5) showed no signs of slowing down after surrendering just one reception for 6 yards. Offseason acquisition CB Patrick Robinson (+1.7) also chipped in with an interception and forced fumble playing from the slot. Overall, it was a solid display from the San Diego secondary.

Top Performers:

CB Jason Verrett (+2.5)
RG D.J. Fluker (+2.2)
WR Keenan Allen (+1.7)
CB Patrick Robinson (+1.7)
QB Philip Rivers (+1.5)

[ArtistFormerlyKnownAsBKR]

as Stafford faced heat on 38.7 percent of his drop backs (only five QBs saw more frequent pressure on Sunday)

Thats a positive

[Lightningwill_420]

I didn't see any other games so I can't argue the rankings.

Rivers has a mediocre day overall. The first half, he was awful. The second half, he was excellent. I was drinking in a bar so I can't say what I'm about to say is absolute truth. It just seemed like the second half the Chargers went to a short-passing, quick-release passing offense - which is about all we can do behind our O'line. It looked like Rivers was hanging onto the ball too long in the first half and taking too much of a beating. We can't do that again. Rivers has to stay healthy.

Keenan Allen jacked up on that one play that ended up being an interception. But it's hard to argue away 15 receptions. When healthy, dude is the best wide receiver we've had since Air Coryell.

[Steve]

I'm not saying that Rivers should be the highest rated. He definitely played a lot better in the 2nd half then the 1st. But Kirk Cousins was invisible in the Redskins game, and something like 21 for 196 yards and 1 TD, 2 int. How does he get the same score? If you actually watched the game, it wasn't as close as the stats line indicated. I was flipping around the games on DTV, so maybe I missed something, but it didn't seem that all the QB were pitching complete games either. Maybe Ben R and Brady, plus Rodgers (didn't watch those that much).

Allen was the most dominant pass catcher Sunday by far. Julio Jones was on pace in the 1st half tonight, but faded with the Falcons pass protection problems in the 2nd half.

The point is that PFF always says that they don't grade process like a coach does, they only grade outcomes, but clearly by looking at the outcomes and the stats vs their grades, they are doing a half-assed combination of both.

[Lightningwill_420]

I'm not saying that Rivers should be the highest rated. He definitely played a lot better in the 2nd half then the 1st. But Kirk Cousins was invisible in the Redskins game, and something like 21 for 196 yards and 1 TD, 2 int. How does he get the same score? If you actually watched the game, it wasn't as close as the stats line indicated. I was flipping around the games on DTV, so maybe I missed something, but it didn't seem that all the QB were pitching complete games either. Maybe Ben R and Brady, plus Rodgers (didn't watch those that much).

Allen was the most dominant pass catcher Sunday by far. Julio Jones was on pace in the 1st half tonight, but faded with the Falcons pass protection problems in the 2nd half.

The point is that PFF always says that they don't grade process like a coach does, they only grade outcomes, but clearly by looking at the outcomes and the stats vs their grades, they are doing a half-assed combination of both.

Well, if you saw the other games, then you know more than I do. I didn't, and I never will.

[bonehead]

Well, if you saw the other games, then you know more than I do. I didn't, and I never will.

I watched Cousins only because he is on my bench in fantasy football and I was hoping he would show up as potential trade bait.....Steve is right, he was horrible

[Lightningwill_420]

I watched Cousins only because he is on my bench in fantasy football and I was hoping he would show up as potential trade bait.....Steve is right, he was horrible

Worse than Rivers was in the first half?

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From NFL.com

Passing Rk Player Team Pos Comp Att Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Int 1st 1st% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck Rate
1 Marcus Mariota TEN QB 13 16 81.3 16.0 209 13.1 209.0 4 0 11 68.8 52T 5 1 2 158.3
2 Tom Brady NE QB 25 32 78.1 32.0 288 9.0 288.0 4 0 19 59.4 52 1 1 2 143.8
3 Aaron Rodgers GB QB 18 23 78.3 23.0 189 8.2 189.0 3 0 10 43.5 34 4 0 0 140.5
4 Tyrod Taylor BUF QB 14 19 73.7 19.0 195 10.3 195.0 1 0 7 36.8 51T 4 1 0 123.8
5 Carson Palmer ARI QB 19 32 59.4 32.0 307 9.6 307.0 3 0 13 40.6 55T 4 2 0 122.8
6 Alex Smith KC QB 22 33 66.7 33.0 243 7.4 243.0 3 0 12 36.4 42T 2 1 2 118.6
7 Andy Dalton CIN QB 25 34 73.5 34.0 269 7.9 269.0 2 0 13 38.2 31 4 0 0 115.9
8 Nick Foles STL QB 18 27 66.7 27.0 297 11.0 297.0 1 0 13 48.1 42 8 1 2 115.8
9 Ryan Mallett HOU QB 8 13 61.5 13.0 98 7.5 98.0 1 0 5 38.5 20 1 0 1 110.4
10 Tony Romo DAL QB 36 45 80.0 45.0 356 7.9 356.0 3 2 21 46.7 25 3 0 0 103.3
11 Philip Rivers SD QB 35 42 83.3 42.0 404 9.6 404.0 2 2 20 47.6 34 7 0 2 102.8
12 Ryan Fitzpatrick NYJ QB 15 24 62.5 24.0 179 7.5 179.0 2 1 9 37.5 43 2 1 0 95.7
13 Ben Roethlisberger PIT QB 26 38 68.4 38.0 351 9.2 351.0 1 1 15 39.5 43 4 1 2 95.4
14 Ryan Tannehill MIA QB 22 34 64.7 34.0 226 6.6 226.0 1 0 12 35.3 27 4 0 3 93.5
15 Matt McGloin OAK QB 23 31 74.2 31.0 142 4.6 142.0 2 1 10 32.3 14 0 0 2 91.1
16 Russell Wilson SEA QB 32 41 78.0 41.0 251 6.1 251.0 1 1 10 24.4 23 2 0 6 90.1
17 Matthew Stafford DET QB 19 30 63.3 30.0 246 8.2 246.0 2 2 12 40.0 36 4 0 1 83.5
18 Drew Brees NO QB 30 48 62.5 48.0 355 7.4 355.0 1 1 12 25.0 63 5 2 2 83.2
19 Josh McCown CLE QB 5 8 62.5 8.0 49 6.1 49.0 0 0 2 25.0 22 1 0 0 79.7
20 Johnny Manziel CLE QB 13 24 54.2 24.0 182 7.6 182.0 1 1 8 33.3 54T 2 1 3 75.3
21 Brian Hoyer HOU QB 18 34 52.9 34.0 236 6.9 236.0 1 1 12 35.3 32 1 0 4 72.7
22 Derek Carr OAK QB 7 12 58.3 12.0 61 5.1 61.0 0 0 3 25.0 24 1 0 0 71.9
23 Cam Newton CAR QB 18 31 58.1 31.0 175 5.6 175.0 1 1 10 32.3 37 2 0 2 71.3
24 Eli Manning NYG QB 20 36 55.6 36.0 193 5.4 193.0 0 0 10 27.8 22 1 0 1 70.7
25 Kirk Cousins WAS QB 21 31 67.7 31.0 196 6.3 196.0 1 2 12 38.7 25 2 0 1 68.8

Rivers is #1 in yards, #11 in QB rating. I'm ok with that.

But how abut Marcus Mariota. A perfect qb rating in his first start. I'm no historian, but that may be the finest first game by a qb ever.

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Receiving Rk Player Team Pos Rec Yds Avg Yds/G Lng TD 20+ 40+ 1st 1st% FUM
1 Keenan Allen SD WR 15 166 11.1 166.0 21 0 3 0 8 53.3 0
2 Julian Edelman NE WR 11 97 8.8 97.0 14 0 0 0 7 63.6 0
3 Antonio Brown PIT WR 9 133 14.8 133.0 37 1 2 0 6 66.7 0
3 Tyler Eifert CIN TE 9 104 11.6 104.0 31 2 1 0 6 66.7 0
3 DeAndre Hopkins HOU WR 9 98 10.9 98.0 17 2 0 0 7 77.8 0
6 Lance Dunbar DAL RB 8 70 8.8 70.0 24 0 1 0 4 50.0 0
6 Mark Ingram NO RB 8 98 12.3 98.0 59 0 2 1 3 37.5 0
6 Jermaine Kearse SEA WR 8 76 9.5 76.0 23 0 2 0 3 37.5 0
6 Jarvis Landry MIA WR 8 53 6.6 53.0 20 0 1 0 3 37.5 0
6 Heath Miller PIT TE 8 84 10.5 84.0 18 0 0 0 3 37.5 0
6 Emmanuel Sanders DEN WR 8 65 8.1 65.0 18 0 0 0 5 62.5 0
6 Jason Witten DAL TE 8 60 7.5 60.0 15 2 0 0 4 50.0 0
13 Doug Baldwin SEA WR 7 35 5.0 35.0 8 0 0 0 0 0.0 0
13 Rashad Greene JAC WR 7 28 4.0 28.0 6 1 0 0 3 42.9 0
13 T.Y. Hilton IND WR 7 88 12.6 88.0 30 0 1 0 6 85.7 0
13 Latavius Murray OAK RB 7 36 5.1 36.0 11 0 0 0 1 14.3 0
13 Jordan Reed WAS TE 7 63 9.0 63.0 25 1 1 0 5 71.4 0
13 Demaryius Thomas DEN WR 7 60 8.6 60.0 11 0 0 0 3 42.9 0
19 Giovani Bernard CIN RB 6 25 4.2 25.0 14 0 0 0 1 16.7 0
19 Larry Fitzgerald ARI WR 6 87 14.5 87.0 29 0 2 0 4 66.7 0
19 Pierre Garcon WAS WR 6 74 12.3 74.0 22 0 1 0 4 66.7 0
19 Jimmy Graham SEA TE 6 51 8.5 51.0 19 1 0 0 3 50.0 0
19 Steve Johnson SD WR 6 82 13.7 82.0 34 1 1 0 4 66.7 0
19 Travis Kelce KC TE 6 106 17.7 106.0 42T 2 1 1 5 83.3 0
19 Brandon Marshall NYJ WR 6 62 10.3 62.0 18 1 0 0 5 83.3 0
19 Donte Moncrief IND WR 6 46 7.7 46.0 15 1 0 0 4 66.7 0
19 Nate Washington HOU WR 6 105 17.5 105.0 32 0 1 0 5 83.3 0
28 Odell Beckham NYG WR 5 44 8.8 44.0 16 0 0 0 3 60.0 0
28 Martellus Bennett CHI TE 5 55 11.0 55.0 24T 1 1 0 4 80.0

Keenan Allen. #1 in receptions and yards. Tough to not put him #1.