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  • Duck of Death
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    Hopkins

    I mentioned this in the Raider game thread, but I’ll repeat - Hopkins pulled almost all of his attempted FGs & PATs. He missed one FG & damn near missed another. What’s going on? Is it possible that his holds are not up to snuff? I mention this because a fairly knowledgeable Packers buddy claimed that JK Scott was not a consistent holder & that he would cause misses. I don’t know the first thing about kicking, so no idea how to confirm or refute this. Just thought it was worth mentioning. And I do think it was interesting that every single one of Hopkins’ kicks was pulled to the left. Although we know he isn’t particularly long, he is accurate - came in last year and finally stabilized that position after years of ineptitude, hitting on 18 of 20 FG attempts. So it’s a little strange that he seemed so off yesterday. Does anyone here know anything about the “science of kicking”, and whether or not holders should get more scrutiny?
  • CivilBolt
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    #2
    Originally posted by Duck of Death View Post
    I mentioned this in the Raider game thread, but I’ll repeat - Hopkins pulled almost all of his attempted FGs & PATs. He missed one FG & damn near missed another. What’s going on? Is it possible that his holds are not up to snuff? I mention this because a fairly knowledgeable Packers buddy claimed that JK Scott was not a consistent holder & that he would cause misses. I don’t know the first thing about kicking, so no idea how to confirm or refute this. Just thought it was worth mentioning. And I do think it was interesting that every single one of Hopkins’ kicks was pulled to the left. Although we know he isn’t particularly long, he is accurate - came in last year and finally stabilized that position after years of ineptitude, hitting on 18 of 20 FG attempts. So it’s a little strange that he seemed so off yesterday. Does anyone here know anything about the “science of kicking”, and whether or not holders should get more scrutiny?
    All I know is that Lynn used that excuse when he was here. Changed the holder and result was the same :lol: maybe they just need to spend more time together to gel.

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    • Heatmiser
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      #3
      Saw same thing, Duck. Every kick was strong but pulled to the left. One PAT had me nervous it was so close. Not sure what is going on with Hopkins and don’t know enough about holders to say it is the punter’s fault. Hopefully Hopkins and Gould can figure it out.

      JK Scott was phenomenal, but there was one punt that brought back memories of failed protections of years past. Raiders got awful close to him. Hope Ficken fickens that up. KC has great special teams. Although Bukner missing a game would be very nice.

      TG
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      • richpjr
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        #4
        Hopkins was pretty inconsistent in Washington and cut in the middle of the season after missing 2 extra points in one game and a 42 yard fg that cost them a game in another. It has nothing to do with his holder.

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        • QSmokey
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          #5
          Hopkins...sucks. IMO. I have zero confidence in him with the game on the line. We haven't had a reliable PK since John Carney. Just a string of guys - some heartbreakers (see: Kaeding) - nothing that would make me believe we could ever count on any of them. Hopkins included. Big hole in this team.

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          • Velo
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            #6
            Speaking of inconsistent Chargers kickers, we may see Tristan Vizcaino kicking for the Chiefs Thursday. Harrison Butker suffered an ankle injury in the desert.

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            • Air Coryell
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              #7
              Originally posted by QSmokey View Post
              Hopkins...sucks. IMO. I have zero confidence in him with the game on the line. We haven't had a reliable PK since John Carney. Just a string of guys - some heartbreakers (see: Kaeding) - nothing that would make me believe we could ever count on any of them. Hopkins included. Big hole in this team.
              This.

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              • Duck of Death
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                #8
                Originally posted by QSmokey View Post
                Hopkins...sucks. IMO. I have zero confidence in him with the game on the line. We haven't had a reliable PK since John Carney. Just a string of guys - some heartbreakers (see: Kaeding) - nothing that would make me believe we could ever count on any of them. Hopkins included. Big hole in this team.
                In point of fact, they have had 2 pro bowlers (Lambo & Koo) - they just didn't know it at the time

                Originally posted by richpjr View Post
                Hopkins was pretty inconsistent in Washington and cut in the middle of the season after missing 2 extra points in one game and a 42 yard fg that cost them a game in another. It has nothing to do with his holder.
                I do recall thinking that it was a pretty quick trigger to fire him, since those were the only two he missed all year. But I guess Washington was lucky to have a good replacement waiting in the wings.

                Hop's career numbers show that he'll definitely clank a couple every year, but his overall accuracy has been solid at 84% & 94% (FG & XP). One thing I didn't realize - he is consistently among the best in the league in touchback %. When I say "best" I'm assuming that a high touchback number is a good thing, but again, I'm not a kicking expert by any stretch.

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                • Duck of Death
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                  #9
                  And how is it that the rest of the AFC West always seems to have great kickers??

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                  • Blastttoff
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                    #10
                    The one that got away, still cant believe we gave up too early on Younghoe...

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                    • ChargersPowderBlue
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Velo View Post
                      Speaking of inconsistent Chargers kickers, we may see Tristan Vizcaino kicking for the Chiefs Thursday. Harrison Butker suffered an ankle injury in the desert.
                      Vizcaino was horrible. Just plain awful. Hopkins is better, but his inability from deep range hinders points from being on the scoreboard.

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                      • Parcells
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Blastttoff View Post
                        The one that got away, still cant believe we gave up too early on Younghoe...
                        Yeah, that hurts.

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