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    fender57
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    #85
    Originally posted by SDfan View Post
    dude, you need to remove the stick from your ass, or sand from your Vag about this. Telesco resigned Barsksdale, Hairston, and restructured Dunlap. All are healthy right now. They shitcanned Reich & and the OL and TE coaches and brought back Wiz. It's not what many of us want- but it's a hell of a lot more than nothing. It's obvious that John Boy, Telesco and McCoy are convinced wholesale player replacements on the lines will mot be the best fix. Personally I wanted some clear upgrades at Center and DL and we got 1 so far- and to me the TE shuffle was stupid and a wasted pick since Gates will still get the majority of snaps and targets as long as he can drag himself out there the next 2 seasons. Then everybody will be wanting to draft his "successor" because Henry didn't "show anything" playing in Gates's shadow and nobody worked to develop him and get him ready because all the focus of Rivers and staff was on Gates the security blanket for Rivers. They should have spent time actually working with Green to fix his game and re-singed Phillips or similar until Gates finally hangs it up.
    A legit concern IMO.

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    • maurile
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      #86
      PFF on Henry.

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      • Faded blues
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        #87
        Originally posted by 6025 View Post
        A legit concern IMO.
        I think we are going to use a lot of two TE

        Green couldn't block me.

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        • richpjr
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          #88
          Originally posted by Faded blues View Post
          I think we are going to use a lot of two TE

          Green couldn't block me.
          I find it very odd to think that people think TE is not a big position of need on the team. Gates is 36 and has this year and maybe one year after that. He is a warrior but 36 year olds with a lot of mileage can easily break down. We also do play enough 2 TE sets that he will get a lot of snaps this year, and heaven forbid could be the number one TE if Gates gets hurt. It was time to move on from Green and I am excited to see him play - he will be a big upgrade over what we lined up next to Gates last year.

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          • Boltjolt
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            #89
            Originally posted by Formula Two One View Post
            I don't understand the TE hate. TE is one of the most difficult positions to fill and we just got an outstanding young talent. This is much better than taking a DT. The Bolts have been swinging and missing at filling this slot for years.
            Because everyone wants a OC and a safety. I dont care if we dont draft a safety. Front 7 more important with what we have at safety. We need a TE. Whis wants to run the ball, Gates still cant block and is gone soon. Green is gone and our other TEs are scrubs.

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            • richpjr
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              #90
              Originally posted by Faded blues View Post
              I think we are going to use a lot of two TE

              Green couldn't block me.
              When you can't block, are a poor route runner and have suffered a bunch of clustered concussions, it's time to move on.

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              • Steve
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                • Jun 2013
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                #91
                Originally posted by 6025 View Post
                So can he block or not? I've read he can, then I read he's "not that good on run blocking". Will they actually use him or will MM and PR bury the guy? If he's the next Witten I guess that would be great. That's a lofty thing to ask of a rookie, to be as good as Witten.
                I think he is a good blocker for college, but he needs a lot of work before I would call him a good NFL blocking TE.

                The guy needs a lot of work all over his game, but he is a good athlete and he is fairly good at things even though they ask him to play inline TE, flex TE, run block, pass block, run routes..... He is a classic inline TE in that he can do a bit of everything.

                He is not going to be as good as Jason Witten, but he could be good enough to play some. ANd he is the type of TE that would be a wonderful complement to Gates. It is a hell of a lot easier to find a pass catching TE (flex TE or pass catching Hback) then it is to find more of these classic TE. Guys like Henry are getting to be hard to find. Not many colleges use Te like a TE. THey just line a big kid up and play them like an extra WR. I don't think he has any chance that he will be a 100 catch per year guy. But he is the kind of kid who can eventually play a ton of downs and catch 50-70 passes a year and get a lot of key 1st downs. Plus, because he can do the inline blocking, it allows us to go out, get a pass catching TE and if the guy has the potential to be a good receiver, we can let him be the next Gates and focus on pass catching and not worry about blocking.

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                • Steve
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                  #92
                  Originally posted by alex View Post
                  Anyone hear Kiper say TE Jerrell Adams was very similar to Henry? hmm
                  They are similar athletes, but Adams was not a very productive receiver and really had the chance to step up and didn't. He reminds me of a receiving type of guy, but he is not superathletic, although he has OK speed for a TE. I get the impression he really doesn't care for blocking. I don't think he really wants to do it very much. If he was a better recevier, that might be the kind of thing you can live with, but in the Spurrier offense he caught 40-50 passes the last 2 seasons, which is enough to tease you. Flashes ability, but doesn't show it often enough.

                  Adams has the athletic skills, but HH is a much better player at this point. We can do more with him, plus from his body language, I get the impression HH wants to block and do everything, he just needs to develop his technique and get some confidence.

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                  • Faded blues
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                    #93
                    Originally posted by Steve View Post
                    I think he is a good blocker for college, but he needs a lot of work before I would call him a good NFL blocking TE.

                    The guy needs a lot of work all over his game, but he is a good athlete and he is fairly good at things even though they ask him to play inline TE, flex TE, run block, pass block, run routes..... He is a classic inline TE in that he can do a bit of everything.

                    He is not going to be as good as Jason Witten, but he could be good enough to play some. ANd he is the type of TE that would be a wonderful complement to Gates. It is a hell of a lot easier to find a pass catching TE (flex TE or pass catching Hback) then it is to find more of these classic TE. Guys like Henry are getting to be hard to find. Not many colleges use Te like a TE. THey just line a big kid up and play them like an extra WR. I don't think he has any chance that he will be a 100 catch per year guy. But he is the kind of kid who can eventually play a ton of downs and catch 50-70 passes a year and get a lot of key 1st downs. Plus, because he can do the inline blocking, it allows us to go out, get a pass catching TE and if the guy has the potential to be a good receiver, we can let him be the next Gates and focus on pass catching and not worry about blocking.
                    So Heath Miller

                    Or more like

                    Kelce?

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                    • Faded blues
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                      #94
                      Originally posted by Steve View Post
                      I think he is a good blocker for college, but he needs a lot of work before I would call him a good NFL blocking TE.

                      The guy needs a lot of work all over his game, but he is a good athlete and he is fairly good at things even though they ask him to play inline TE, flex TE, run block, pass block, run routes..... He is a classic inline TE in that he can do a bit of everything.

                      He is not going to be as good as Jason Witten, but he could be good enough to play some. ANd he is the type of TE that would be a wonderful complement to Gates. It is a hell of a lot easier to find a pass catching TE (flex TE or pass catching Hback) then it is to find more of these classic TE. Guys like Henry are getting to be hard to find. Not many colleges use Te like a TE. THey just line a big kid up and play them like an extra WR. I don't think he has any chance that he will be a 100 catch per year guy. But he is the kind of kid who can eventually play a ton of downs and catch 50-70 passes a year and get a lot of key 1st downs. Plus, because he can do the inline blocking, it allows us to go out, get a pass catching TE and if the guy has the potential to be a good receiver, we can let him be the next Gates and focus on pass catching and not worry about blocking.
                      What about the fact he didn't miss a catch last year and ran a 4.6?

                      With rivers as a qb he could pull in 80.

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                      • Formula 21
                        The Future is Now
                        • Jun 2013
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                        #95
                        Originally posted by Faded blues View Post
                        So Heath Miller

                        Or more like

                        Kelce?
                        I want the full Witten.
                        Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
                        Let’s win one for Mack.

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                        • Faded blues
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                          #96
                          Originally posted by richpjr View Post
                          I find it very odd to think that people think TE is not a big position of need on the team. Gates is 36 and has this year and maybe one year after that. He is a warrior but 36 year olds with a lot of mileage can easily break down. We also do play enough 2 TE sets that he will get a lot of snaps this year, and heaven forbid could be the number one TE if Gates gets hurt. It was time to move on from Green and I am excited to see him play - he will be a big upgrade over what we lined up next to Gates last year.
                          I think gates came back its still the San Diego Chargers.

                          He is on record saying he wants a diminished role next year:

                          3 downs and red zone.

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