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  • Velo
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    Originally posted by charger1_sj View Post

    Don't know if you watched the game the other night or if you watch the 49ers at all. But Purdy made some throws into some very tight windows. Shanahan's system surely has
    much to do with it. But it's Purdy who's execution has been nearly perfect this year. He was getting into some bad habits last year. Seems like those have been corrected.
    It's still early and he hasn't played in enough high level games to crown him. But thus far he's shut up the naysayers.
    I watched the game live. And I watched this entire highlight video. I saw only one what I would consider a tight-window throw by Brock Purdy, late in the 2nd Q, a short pass to Deebo over the middle near the goal line. Every other completion in this vid, Purdy's receiver has separation, in most cases they are wide open. I'm not detracting from Purdy's accuracy. He puts the ball on his receivers with great accuracy. But his receivers are open. He's not throwing jump balls.

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    • charger1_sj
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      Originally posted by Velo View Post

      I watched the game live. And I watched this entire highlight video. I saw only one what I would consider a tight-window throw by Brock Purdy, late in the 2nd Q, a short pass to Deebo over the middle near the goal line. Every other completion in this vid, Purdy's receiver has separation, in most cases they are wide open. I'm not detracting from Purdy's accuracy. He puts the ball on his receivers with great accuracy. But his receivers are open. He's not throwing jump balls.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-fW...ab_channel=NFL
      There were 2-3 more throws not in that video. But yeah most of the time the receivers had separation. The throw to Jenkins on 3rd down, he had guys open on the shorter routes
      for the 1st down, but he went with the deeper throw. Great vision and decision.

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      • Boltjolt
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        Originally posted by charger1_sj View Post

        Lynch was hired in Jan. 2017. In his very first draft of being the GM for just under 4 months he drafted Kittle that year. Probably the 2nd best TE in the league.
        They had 10 picks that year. 7 are still playing in the NFL, some at high levels although not with the 49ers.

        In 2018 in his very first full year as GM he drafted Fred Warner, Mike McGlinchey, T, Moore. If you don't who those guys are look them up. They had nine
        draft picks that year, 7 of which are still playing in the NFL, some not with the 49ers.

        It gets better from there.

        It's not that I don't like your comments. It's that they are factually wrong. Of course they are your opinions and that's fine. But I don't think you've done you're
        home work on this one. If you don't like my posts maybe you can put me on ignore, not sure that's an option. It was back in the old forum. Otherwise we can
        both refrain from commenting in each other posts. No problem on my end. But if it bothers you.........

        McGlinchey sucks and is the reason their QBs were always hurt.

        Waiting for Russell Wilson to go down any week now. Broncos paid a king ransom for McGlinchey.

        Niners also shit the bed on Lance but Lynch has done well overall.
        I thought they over paid for McCaffrey too but he has been healthy for the most part with them.
        1. Mason Taylor TE LSU
        2. Quinshon Judkins RB Ohio st
        3. Kyle Kennard Edge So. Carolina

        4. CJ West DT Indiana
        5. Don'te Thornton WR Tennessee
        6. Zah Frazier CB UTSA
        6. Jarquez Hunter RB Auburn
        6. Jay Higgins LB Iowa
        6. Hunter Wohler S Wisconsin
        7. Carson Vinson OT Alabama

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        • Maniaque 6
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          Pipskin or McGlinchey at RT ?
          Not sure ...

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          • wu-dai clan
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            Originally posted by Xenos View Post

            This is what I’m referring to:
            “Otherwise your comment borders comedy.”

            Don’t waste my time or anyone else’s again with something like that.
            I greatly appreciate your efforts to keep it conversational and not confrontational around here.

            That is something that all of us posters ought to respect.

            I see several posters jockeying for position to be the first poster to be made an example of for thumbing their nose at the noble idea of disagreeing in a civil manner.
            We play modern Harball.

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            • NOrvMeNow
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              Originally posted by Velo View Post
              RE John Lynch, I think Shanahan really runs that show. Kyle tells Lynch what he wants and Lynch finds a way to make it happen. I think there is a similar dynamic between Staley and Telesco.
              They've really hit on the vets they bring in: Trent Williams, Christian McCaffrey, Charvarious Ward, Javon Hargrave ....... boom, boom, boom!
              There are probably others.

              Compare that with the Chargers.

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              • NOrvMeNow
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                It's interesting how big a priority DTs are to Shanahan and Lynch.
                Shanahan/Lynch reportedly shared a remarkable similarity in the positions they value the most, when they interviewed for their respective jobs with the 49ers.

                They work well together.

                Staley's only succeeded with superior DTs - if we can believe the story about the guy at Mercyhurst.
                This has been pointed out before.

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                • ghost
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                  Originally posted by Xenos View Post
                  Velo, also with regards to your second to last paragraph, how old is Jed York and his kids? If they’re still young, don’t be surprised if it still happens. Nepotism is just the NFL.
                  X, did you see that on Sunday night, Brian Griese was the 49ers QB coach sitting next to Purdy and Brian Schottenheimer on the bench for the Cowboys as QB Coach?

                  Good stock.

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                  • DerwinBosa
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                    Originally posted by Xenos View Post

                    And my original argument was that 49ers current status is due to Shanahan’s coaching because I don’t believe Lynch is a good GM. If we had hired him, we would have been rightfully ridiculed because he had no scouting or anything remotely resembling a GM background. He was a former player who was a football broadcaster before Shanahan handpicked him as his GM essentially.

                    It’s great that he got Kittle in his first draft in the 5th. But that doesn’t excuse him essentially blowing his other picks including the two first rounders. And it’s great that his failed picks are still playing elsewhere but you can say the same thing about Telesco’s picks and we all know that means absolutely nothing. The Trey Lance situation was obviously his worst move but Shanahan does magic with his scheme and bailed him out again. I’ll give him a mulligan for getting the guys that Shanahan wants like Trent Williams and McCaffrey. But the current success of the 9ers is solely because of Shanahan and his scheme IMO.
                    It's a compelling case for Shanahan being the main reason for the 49ers' success. Aside from taking Garoppolo and Purdy to the NFC Championship Game, he got 220 yards out of Raheem Mostert in the 2019 NFC Championship Game. Barely anyone ever heard of Mostert before then. There are many other examples of him taking guys out of nowhere to making outstanding contributions. Then you have his system run through Mike McDaniel in Miami. Tua was a bust before McDaniel came around. Now he's an MVP candidate, and we could very well see San Francisco and Miami in the Super Bowl.

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                    • NoMoreChillies
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                      Originally posted by NOrvMeNow View Post

                      They've really hit on the vets they bring in: Trent Williams, Christian McCaffrey, Charvarious Ward, Javon Hargrave ....... boom, boom, boom!
                      There are probably others.

                      Compare that with the Chargers.
                      Khalil Mack
                      SJD
                      Morgan Fox
                      Gerald Everett

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                      • wu-dai clan
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                        Originally posted by Xenos View Post

                        And my original argument was that 49ers current status is due to Shanahan’s coaching because I don’t believe Lynch is a good GM. If we had hired him, we would have been rightfully ridiculed because he had no scouting or anything remotely resembling a GM background. He was a former player who was a football broadcaster before Shanahan handpicked him as his GM essentially.

                        It’s great that he got Kittle in his first draft in the 5th. But that doesn’t excuse him essentially blowing his other picks including the two first rounders. And it’s great that his failed picks are still playing elsewhere but you can say the same thing about Telesco’s picks and we all know that means absolutely nothing. The Trey Lance situation was obviously his worst move but Shanahan does magic with his scheme and bailed him out again. I’ll give him a mulligan for getting the guys that Shanahan wants like Trent Williams and McCaffrey. But the current success of the 9ers is solely because of Shanahan and his scheme IMO.
                        Clearly the big factor for SF is player development.

                        They have seen excellent assistants, including Minorities, go on to HC jobs.

                        The 49ers delegate in all facets of the operation.

                        Lynch stays out of the way, much more than having any special chops himself.
                        Last edited by wu-dai clan; 10-11-2023, 06:18 AM.
                        We play modern Harball.

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                        • NOrvMeNow
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                          Originally posted by NoMoreChillies View Post

                          Khalil Mack
                          SJD
                          Morgan Fox
                          Gerald Everett
                          Which one of those guys would your prefer over the 4 mentioned in San Francisco?

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