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  • Leslie Grossman
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    #13
    We said it for years about Pipkins
    So here’s the dreaded…. “Can he play guard?”
    Last edited by Leslie Grossman; 01-01-2024, 11:35 PM.

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    • Bolt4Knob
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      #14
      Originally posted by Boltnut View Post
      Yeah, I get it (with Bosa and MW). Get whatever you can with those two. If you can't get anything in trade for them... cut them anyways. They save $34 million against the cap... whether you trade them or cut them. A lousy team, with a lot of cap space, could be willing to take a risk on them. It's not like most 4th rounders make an impact anyways. When those guys are healthy, they impact a game.

      Mack and Keenan are the only players doing anything on a consistent basis. I'd keep them. Extending them saves more cap money. People have been telling me that Keenan is "slowing down" for a couple of years now. How did he respond...? By having his best year yet. IMO, Mack and Keenan have another 2 or 3 years left.

      If we're drafting in the Top-10... I'm going CB, Edge rusher, or even OT. Those are the premium positions. Taking a TE just doesn't make sense to me. Most of the TE's taken in the 1st just haven't provided a ROI. The exception might be Hockenson... and even he was traded before his rookie contract was up. Our CB starters are junk. You really need 3 edge rushers now... especially if Mack is retained. Rotate them and keep them fresh. Protect yourself against injury. Pipkins is crap. Most raved about his re-signing. I was against re-signing him. He's not very good... and obviously can't protect well enough to keep your QB healthy or allow enough time to pass deep. That re-sign was a waste of money.
      I have changed my mind on Mack. If there is a new GM/HC combo - they are going to need to do a pretty big rebuild. I think I would look into trading Mack and using his 15m of cap space on multiple players. See if you can get some building blocks. At worst just some rotational depth. I get one player won't be better than Mack - but maybe between the hopefully two draft picks and a few shrewd free agent signings - you can build a better roster.

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      • beachcomber
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        #15
        don't think it's a total rebuild, as think some of us might be surprised @how much a Harbaugh affects/improves the won/loss record.... ??

        we have the QB, LT, DE, OLB, WR.... an OC, RB, NT, and LB will really help sew things back together.... along w/some strategic additions to the Lines.
        5/11 Fuaga, 37 Kamari Lassiter, 40 Sinnott, 67 Bralen Trice, 69 Cedric Gray, 105 Jaylen Wright, 110 Braelon Allen, 140 Joe Milton, 181 Khristian Boyd, Tylan Grable, 225 Daijun Edwards, 253 Miyan Williams

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        • Critty
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          #16
          2024 Roster

          Head Coach: Jim Harbaugh

          Extend: Mack, Allen and James.

          Trade: M.Williams and J.Bosa for draft picks.

          Free Agent Target: L.Cushinberry-OC.

          ​​​Draft Rd1: J.Alt-OT

          Last edited by Critty; 01-28-2024, 12:19 PM.
          Who has it better than us?

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          • NYBoltFan
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            #17
            Need O-Line the most I think.

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            • beachcomber
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              #18
              GM Ian Cunningham
              HC Harbo

              QB Herbo * like Joe Milton in the draft
              RB * empty house/nest.... need to bring in a handful of 'em (Daijun Edwards pls)
              WR Keenan, Palmer, QJ, Derius Davis * need a WR5
              TE Everett, Parham, Vannett * personally would replace Stoney
              OT Slater, Salyer, Pips * Taliese is tempting
              OG Zion, McFadden * Cooper Beebe would make a nice addition
              OC * looking in FA if not the draft

              NT Ogbonnia * T'Vondre Sweat pls
              DT Matlock * Byron Murphy pls
              DE Tuli, Fox * Tuimoloau went back to school
              ED Mack * Dorance Armstrong would be my choice in FA if not Latu in the draft
              LB Murray, Henley * Cedric Gray pls plus one more (Eric Gentry) in the draft
              SS Derwin, Alohi * good for now
              FS JT Woods * Cole Bishop pls
              CB Asante, Deane, Ja'Sir, Mike D. * am looking slot corner in FA (to spell Callahan)

              PK Dicker
              PT Scott
              LS Harris
              5/11 Fuaga, 37 Kamari Lassiter, 40 Sinnott, 67 Bralen Trice, 69 Cedric Gray, 105 Jaylen Wright, 110 Braelon Allen, 140 Joe Milton, 181 Khristian Boyd, Tylan Grable, 225 Daijun Edwards, 253 Miyan Williams

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              • GoChargersGo!!
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                #19
                Does anyone on here think Mack could still retire this year? He was rumored to be contemplating retirement last season. If he does that is a huge loss on defense. If so who could we sign in free agency or draft to fill that void?

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                • wu-dai clan
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                  #20
                  Our cap situation compells us to patiently invest one more season in allowing young players to develop.

                  My "realistic"roster build will involve retaining thus far underperforming Chargers, re-upping with some vets looking to have bounce back years, and late, late UFAs to fill in the gaps.

                  It will all be on the cheap...coupon god's back in town.
                  We do not play modern football.

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                  • Boltnut
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                    #21
                    I posted this over on the other thread... but I think this thread is about to take off again...

                    If we could trade back to #10... we'd pick up at least one 3rd rounder and two 4th rounders... maybe another future 4th.
                    If you can trade Mack away for a 3rd rounder (IMO the only player on the Chargers that could get that value)... then you have a 1st rounder, a 2nd round, three 3rd rounders, three 4th rounders...

                    1st: CB Kool-Aid
                    2nd: C Sedrick Van Pran
                    3rd: DL Kris Jenkins
                    3rd: LB Junior Colson
                    3rd: Best DE available
                    4th: Best RG available
                    4th: Best TE available
                    4th: Best RB available

                    You're nearly done with your rebuild in one draft... simply by trading back 5 spots in the 1st round.

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                    • Boltnut
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                      #22
                      First order of business is getting under the cap by March 13th.

                      Cuts: Linsley, Kendricks, Mike Williams
                      Restructures: Bosa, Derwin
                      Extension: Keenan
                      ERFA signings: Sarell, Dicker, Layne, Doss

                      At this point, I am $13.5m under the cap... and have 50 players on the roster.

                      Second order of business would be to trade Khalil Mack (hopefully a 3rd rounder).
                      At this point, I am $36.8m under the cap... with 49 on the roster and 8 draft picks (two 3rd rounders) to re-build.

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                      • wu-dai clan
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                        #23
                        This is the wu Method.

                        No trades.
                        Gone. Bosa. MW. K9. Ek...
                        Re-sign. Dicker (ERFA). Alohi. Vato. Everett. Kelley. Amen (RFA). Essang. Finley (RFA).
                        Extend. Keenan. Khalil. Derwin. Pipkins. Kendricks.

                        QB
                        Herbert
                        Stick
                        It must be.

                        RB
                        Kelley (Yin)
                        Spiller (Yang)
                        Jyran Mitchell Rd 7 (+WR)
                        Louis Rees-Zammit UDFA (+ Flex-TE/ST Gunner)

                        TE
                        Everett
                        Parham
                        Smartt
                        AJ Barner Rd 5

                        WR
                        Keenan
                        Palmer
                        QJ
                        Xavier Worthy Rd 2
                        DD

                        OT
                        Slater
                        Joe Alt Rd 1
                        Pipkins

                        OG
                        Zion
                        Salyer
                        McFadden (+FB)
                        Grant Smith Rd 7

                        C
                        Jaimes
                        Drake Nugent Rd 6

                        DE
                        Mack
                        Tuli
                        Fox
                        Brandon Dorius Rd 4

                        DT
                        Hinton
                        Tito
                        Matlock
                        Clark
                        Okoye

                        LB
                        Kendricks
                        Henley
                        Niemann
                        Amen

                        CB
                        Vato
                        Leonard
                        Ja'Sir
                        Essang

                        S
                        Alohi
                        Finley
                        Woods

                        Slot/Rover
                        Derwin
                        ASJ
                        Javon Bullard Rd 3

                        Pass Rush/LB
                        Rumph II
                        Richard Jibunor UDFA

                        ST
                        Dicker PK
                        Harris LS
                        Scott P
                        DD KR
                        Worthy KR
                        Ja'Sir GUNNER
                        Rees-Zammit GUNNER

                        September UFA's after Week One to fill in gaps.
                        We do not play modern football.

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                        • blueman
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                          #24
                          Don’t like your Oline at all, Woody:

                          Extend Pip to be a backup? Why? A lot of money for very little performance.

                          Salyer at G? Why? Natural position is RT.

                          Still no C? Why? Why??

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