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[beachcomber]

Fuaga (gone by ~ pick #10) and Fautanu have more scheme and position versatility.
Latham is purely a Gap-Power ORT and that serves our purposes just fine.
The run on tackles will occur before, during or after the run on QBs and WRs.
Who knows ?

who is taking Fuaga before 11 ?? the Jets and others have made moves to reinforce their Olines in order to go out and get pass catchers, and.... if for some reason Fuaga isn't there, would still take Fashanu before Latham, Mims or the like.... from Zierlein, who loves Latham:

calls him an elite drive blocking talent and has him rated (well) ahead of Fuaga in his rankings, and.... fails to mention that PFF has Fuaga rated well ahead of Latham as a run blocker.
calls him an avg move blocker both laterally and when climbing to the second level
says he gets beaten by inside moves when he oversets
says he needs to become more comfortable setting diagonally rather than vertically to avoid sinking too deeply within his own pocket
avg recognition
sets too deeply in the pocket
beaten inside, and.... down the middle
over sets to speed, can be beaten inside and long armed
can be impatient.... causing him to lunge
below avg lateral quickness
inconsistent entry angles make it tougher to seal and sustain his work

reading other pundits, dude is a huge cautionary tale, and for a team that has a DJ Fluker in its past, am very wary of this guy.... would not draft him period, 'specially if you can get a Fuaga, Fashanu or Fautanu.

[SuperChargedRodney37]

Well if you are right about JC being there @ 23 and the Chargers make the trade nice job and it would be a no brainier pick! After Nabers gun thing I'm also starting to like BTJ over him as well if the Cards draft MHJ! Have to also ultimately keep Bowers as an option it's an incredibly tough call based on the talent in this draft....

The Nabers Mardi Gra gun incident happened in February of 2023. This was only a misdemeanor charge that was ultimately dismissed. Its a big nothing burger that shouldn't be held against this kid and was a very suspicious report as far as the timing. If you like BTJ that's great but don't use this bogus story to make that decision especially since these two players are apples and oranges in terms of skillset and what they would bring to the team. Nabers is by far the better all-around talent.
Thomas is a more MVS type player.

[CanadianBoltFan]

I think if the Chargers trade back and have #11 and #23 or #27 they will have to take Latham @ #11 if he is their target because I think we will see a run of OT's in the mid 1st rnd. Once one goes, they will start to fall, IMHO. I do think it is possible that they could use some draft capital to move up from #23 or #27 to take him or another player but personally given how talented this draft class is I would prefer they either stand pat or trade back with that late 1st rnd draft pick. So many options and can't wait to see what they do.

I agree. If they want Latham, they will take him at 11. Wait until 23 and you are likely looking at Mims.

[wu-dai clan]

Fuaga is a stud OT/OG prospect that will interest several teams up high.
The key question is how and when the run on the position occurs.
I see Latham as a perfect fit for us at ORT.

From Duke Manyweather's fresh convo with Voch Lombardi...
--Latham is a tackle.
--Fuaga, Fautanu might be guards.
--Frazier is the best Center in the draft.
--Sedrick has the highest of football IQs.
--Mason McCormick remains a favorite sleeper of Duke's.

[Icebolt]

We are all assuming that Vikes are trading up and with the Chargers ( mostly ).
HOWEVER, I have been doing some reading. Maybe the Vikes are staying where they are at ( which, by the way, is a great place to be in a stacked draft ). The Texans approached then on the trade for #23. Vikes just saw it as a real good deal for them. Mockers just assumed they did to trade up in draft. 2nd there are a lot of evaluator who study how college QB and their system translate to the NFL. They are not as high on Maye as the mockers. He is at best a long term project. On JJ Mc they are a little higher but he is also a project. Why would the Vikes use so much capital with a NOT SURE THING ? They view Nix has a better fit for the Vikes offense and what their coach has said is needed, which they can get at #11 for sure and maybe even #23.
Draft has a lot of surprises each year, and mostly it's a surprise to the more well know "mockers". If mockers were good at what they did ( evaluate talent ) they would have jobs in the NFL.
I am not saying they are not moving up. As stated above, this is a stacked draft andI would love for the Chargers to have #11 and ##23. YUM!

[21&500]

DeVonta Smith weighs all of 5 lbs more than Derius Davis.... dude can cross up CBs something fierce.... no good reason not to have him in the pattern when the needs exists/persists ??

100%
just because Moore didn't use him as an actual WR doesn't mean there isn't a lot of unused talent.
Maybe Ficken wanted to keep him healthy and rested for ST.
and while DD won't prevent me from drafting WR with speed or explosion, we need to evaluate DD for deep target skills.

With the new ST rules we may be looking at a different skill set for KR freeing up DD to play outside or even Y if he's not big enough to beat press.

[wu-dai clan]

LOL.
Some typical classic TPB draft takes.
--"Latham is not the guy.
Besides he is so good he will go top 10 in draft with high QB intetest and MHJ, Nabers, Rome, Bowers and Alt."
--"Get that shit out of here, overdrafting one guy and mocking the other too late."
--Upon seeing a mock with picks, all dudes posters have heard of:
"Great mock draft-- if it happens that would be so awesome!"

[beachcomber]

LOL.
Some typical classic TPB draft takes.
--"Latham is not the guy.
Besides he is so good he will go top 10 in draft with high QB intetest and MHJ, Nabers, Rome, Bowers and Alt."
--"Get that shit out of here, overdrafting one guy and mocking the other too late."
--Upon seeing a mock with picks, all dudes posters have heard of:
"Great mock draft-- if it happens that would be so awesome!"

speaking for myself.... Latham is DEF not the guy.... big huge unreasonable gambit.

[Lone Bolt]

who is taking Fuaga before 11 ?? the Jets and others have made moves to reinforce their Olines in order to go out and get pass catchers, and.... if for some reason Fuaga isn't there, would still take Fashanu before Latham, Mims or the like.... from Zierlein, who loves Latham:

calls him an elite drive blocking talent and has him rated (well) ahead of Fuaga in his rankings, and.... fails to mention that PFF has Fuaga rated well ahead of Latham as a run blocker.
calls him an avg move blocker both laterally and when climbing to the second level
says he gets beaten by inside moves when he oversets
says he needs to become more comfortable setting diagonally rather than vertically to avoid sinking too deeply within his own pocket
avg recognition
sets too deeply in the pocket
beaten inside, and.... down the middle
over sets to speed, can be beaten inside and long armed
can be impatient.... causing him to lunge
below avg lateral quickness
inconsistent entry angles make it tougher to seal and sustain his work

reading other pundits, dude is a huge cautionary tale, and for a team that has a DJ Fluker in its past, am very wary of this guy.... would not draft him period, 'specially if you can get a Fuaga, Fashanu or Fautanu.

Beach...Im reading a lot of "HE calls him..." and "THEY said he..."

What about YOU? Have you really dug in and watched him yet? I finally watched more than a couple of games this time around, and to my eyes, he always gets to where he needs to be to either swallow up the rush, or lay down a run block...all 360#s of him. Maybe Im being optimistic, but I dont think he is gonna be another Fluker. Hell...Fluker wouldnt have been Fluker, if he played smarter and more disciplined and consistent...but he was lazy in his tech, and got fooled easily with pass rush moves...I think this kid has more going on upstairs than DJ...and he will be landing with a much better staff.. training and coaching....

But Fuaga and Latham...love em both...splitting hairs...if its RT in the first, gimme either and Ill be happy...

[CanadianBoltFan]

We are all assuming that Vikes are trading up and with the Chargers ( mostly ).
HOWEVER, I have been doing some reading. Maybe the Vikes are staying where they are at ( which, by the way, is a great place to be in a stacked draft ). The Texans approached then on the trade for #23. Vikes just saw it as a real good deal for them. Mockers just assumed they did to trade up in draft. 2nd there are a lot of evaluator who study how college QB and their system translate to the NFL. They are not as high on Maye as the mockers. He is at best a long term project. On JJ Mc they are a little higher but he is also a project. Why would the Vikes use so much capital with a NOT SURE THING ? They view Nix has a better fit for the Vikes offense and what their coach has said is needed, which they can get at #11 for sure and maybe even #23.
Draft has a lot of surprises each year, and mostly it's a surprise to the more well know "mockers". If mockers were good at what they did ( evaluate talent ) they would have jobs in the NFL.
I am not saying they are not moving up. As stated above, this is a stacked draft andI would love for the Chargers to have #11 and ##23. YUM!

Further to your point, Michael Penix has been rocking his recent workouts, and the Vikings sent a full contingent including GM and coach to meet with him in Seattle. That is a QB they could take at 11 without trading.

[wu-dai clan]

Further to your point, Michael Penix has been rocking his recent workouts, and the Vikings sent a full contingent including GM and coach to meet with him in Seattle. That is a QB they could take at 11 without trading.

No doubt about it.
Vikes are on the hunt for a QB.

[CanadianBoltFan]

speaking for myself.... Latham is DEF not the guy.... big huge unreasonable gambit.

Weren't there rumors the Chargers really like him though? Devlin worked him out pretty good.