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  • Bolt4Knob
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    • Dec 2019
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    Originally posted by gzubeck View Post

    Thomas, Thomas Thomas....
    Do you mean Bryan with pick 23?

    I am good with that

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    • gzubeck
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      • Jan 2019
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      Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

      Do you mean Bryan with pick 23?

      I am good with that
      Pick 11...
      Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....

      "Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh

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      • Jack Burton
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        • Apr 2023
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        Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

        They’ve filled their OL pre-draft. Their biggest hole now appears to be TE
        They’ve filled their LT with a guy who hasn’t played in more than 13 games in 3 years. He’s never making it through the season. It’s why he was released by DAL. Moses is 33 and has only ever played RT and he’s an injury concern.
        Id say unless they get really stupid, there’s a really good chance the Jets still just draft a OT in a really good OT class so they have one for the next 15 years no matter who it is playing QB.

        But I could also see the Jets brass being just dumb enough to take Bowers and then watch as the season goes exactly how last year went but this time by Thanksgiving.

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        • Boltjolt
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          Originally posted by bman6555 View Post

          Last year a grand total of zero teams ran more than they passed.
          In the current NFL you need to pass to set up the run.
          Teams need to respect the risk of pass, otherwise it's easy to put 8 in the box and stop the run, as the Titans learned even with the likes of a Henry.
          Right now we have no one on the roster that teams need to respect in the pass game.
          Could we hit on a 2nd-4th round receiver, yes, but I think the position needs an impact player and right now the best way of doing that is grabbing one of the top 3 in the draft.
          Ravens ran 531 rush plays and 494 passing plays
          Bears 534 rushes 513 passes

          Falcons 522 rushes, 530 passes and they were playing catch-up often.

          Couple other teams were close to 50/50

          Ok so we are 50/50. Maybe 51/49....

          Point is we will run. We passed around 61% of the time last year.

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          • jamrock
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            Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

            Ravens ran 531 rush plays and 494 passing plays
            Bears 534 rushes 513 passes
            How many of those are QB runs?

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            • bman6555
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              Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

              Ravens ran 531 rush plays and 494 passing plays
              Bears 534 rushes 513 passes

              Falcons 522 rushes, 530 passes and they were playing catch-up often.

              Couple other teams were close to 50/50

              Ok so we are 50/50. Maybe 51/49....

              Point is we will run. We passed around 61% of the time last year.
              Interesting, different sources (one) have different numbers (two) on this. I think the second one, which is probably what you're quoting, doesn't look like it includes sacks which should be counted as pass plays but don't have a pass attempt registered.

              Regardless of the exact numbers I agree with your point that we'll be closer to even, probably around 55% pass rate or so.
              That also assumes we don't get behind a bunch as pass rate will naturally climb based on game script then.

              Also if we're running that much we'll need to find a 2nd RB to split the carries with Gus.

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              • dmac_bolt
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                • May 2019
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                Originally posted by Eurobolt View Post

                With all due respect I am not sure that Tyrone Smith who is 33 or 34, injury prone over past couple of seasons and is on 1 year deal solve their OL needs.
                You could be right, but it looks from the outside that this was the intention of their pre-draft moves. Those may not work, but did they make those moves just for depth? They don’t feel like the moves of a team that plans to take OT at #10 so … ? It remains unclear.
                “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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                • Boltjolt
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                  Originally posted by bman6555 View Post

                  Interesting, different sources (one) have different numbers (two) on this. I think the second one, which is probably what you're quoting, doesn't look like it includes sacks which should be counted as pass plays but don't have a pass attempt registered.

                  Regardless of the exact numbers I agree with your point that we'll be closer to even, probably around 55% pass rate or so.
                  That also assumes we don't get behind a bunch as pass rate will naturally climb based on game script then.

                  Also if we're running that much we'll need to find a 2nd RB to split the carries with Gus.
                  Nope, NFL.com team stats.
                  doesn't have to be exact. It was the point that we are going to run a lot more.
                  And yes we will draft another RB or two,...one for sure...or pickup a cap casualty after the draft or a cut after TC/preseason.

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                  • Boltjolt
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                    Originally posted by jamrock View Post

                    How many of those are QB runs?
                    If it's a planned run, it still counts. But agree, Lamar runs a lot when dropping back as well.
                    Falcons didn't have a running QB and they were 3rd with 8 more passes than rushes and they played from behind often.

                    There are a handful of teams that were close ratio. Titans had 50 more passes, also playing from behind often
                    Giants 54 more passes, also playing from behind often

                    Not sure the argument. Do we not agree we will run a lot more with Harbaugh and Roman?
                    Last edited by Boltjolt; 03-24-2024, 05:11 PM.

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                    • Go Chargers go
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                      Originally posted by jamrock View Post

                      How many of those are QB runs?
                      How many are those runs because he cannot make the Throw. If H&H think they can copy Baltimore they will fail. Herbert is not that QB

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                      • Go Chargers go
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                        Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                        If it's a planned run, it still counts. But agree, Lamar runs a lot when dropping back as well.
                        Falcons didn't have a running QB and they were 3rd with 8 more passes than rushes and they played from behind often.

                        There are a handful of teams that were close ratio. Titans had 50 more passes, also playing from behind often
                        Giants 54 more passes, also playing from behind often

                        Not sure the argument. Do we not agree we will run a lot more with Harbaugh and Roman?
                        I agree we should run more if the defense dictates that. Herbert’s strengths are passing and if we somehow fix OL and have the RBs to help Herbert’s passing game…yes please.

                        But Harbaugh did not become successful until Kapernack ran the ball like Lamar…..that’s very dangerous for Herbert

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                        • Boltinloudguy
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                          Originally posted by Go Chargers go View Post

                          I agree we should run more if the defense dictates that. Herbert’s strengths are passing and if we somehow fix OL and have the RBs to help Herbert’s passing game…yes please.

                          But Harbaugh did not become successful until Kapernack ran the ball like Lamar…..that’s very dangerous for Herbert
                          Not true, he was successful with Andrew luck and Alex Smith and they were also not like Kap and Lamar. They will figure out the best way to use Herbert. We should not expect Herbert to 5000 yards passing. I’m guessing 4300-4700 and more efficient.

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