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  • wu-dai clan
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    #12901
    Originally posted by jamrock View Post

    I'm saying draft Bowers instead of Alt and maybe move down a few picks to do it. And i'm not saying that because I don't think Alt is going to be a great player for us. I just think Bowers would have been greater and more impactful on a team without weapons


    This discussion is also taking place in the context of Chark's injury, and during the lead up to the trade deadline.

    We are definitely at a burning point for this season.

    Stay frosty TPB.
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    • DerwinBosa
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      #12902
      Originally posted by jamrock View Post

      I'm saying draft Bowers instead of Alt and maybe move down a few picks to do it. And i'm not saying that because I don't think Alt is going to be a great player for us. I just think Bowers would have been greater and more impactful on a team without weapons
      That is downright ridiculous. If that had happened, you'd be on here complaining about our awful right tackle situation.

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      • DerwinBosa
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        #12903
        Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

        You're right, 11 was originally Minnesota who ended up trading with the Jets to #10 for McCarthy.
        So unless the Jets would trade down to 37......i don't think it's was going to happen.
        It wasn't going to happen. If you have the 11th overall pick in the draft, and you want to move down to acquire more s********s, it's highly unlikely that you're looking to move out of the first round. The only way that's happening is if you're getting two or three first-round picks and more included in the deal. Nobody is giving up that much for a tight end.

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        • AFboltfan
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          #12904
          Originally posted by DerwinBosa View Post

          That is downright ridiculous. If that had happened, you'd be on here complaining about our awful right tackle situation.
          I would honestly rather complain about the RT situation than not being able to score TD's... Oline talent is easier to find than generational skill position talent, Bowers could have been Harbaugh's Vernon Davis.

          BUT with that said, before you jump all over me... I'm glad we got Alt, he is 100% worth his draft position and will be a great bookend for a long time.

          Scoring TD's is important too...

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          • dmac_bolt
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            #12905
            Originally posted by Velo View Post

            I'm saying trade up for Bowers after drafting Alt.
            What do you think it would have cost? Next year’s #1 or ?? it would have been a loud hammer crashing down on the world. I remain a bowers bro too.
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            • Fouts2herbert
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              #12906
              Everyone here knows I was a trade down a few spots, pick up an extra high pick and grab Bowers guy, but even I'M not talking about this shit because it's pointless and over and done with and because Alt has shown future All-pro type of ability, the other tackles that I wanted instead of Alt have all pretty much been terrible this season too, so no thanks...MOVIN' ON...

              can we talk about what's actually happening on the roster instead? WRs Raegor and Johnson have been elevated for the Saints game which means that Chark is not going to play yet again plus Bosa is going to start, this tells me that the team is fed up with waiting on Bosa and Chark, if Bosa can't finish the game against the Saints AND if Chark can't practice again next week BOTH guys will be on season ending IR by this time next week...


              Bosa hasn't played since the second or third week of the season and that includes the bye week, at least Chark hasn't been taking up an active roster spot during his absence and I think they opened his return window out of desperation just to put pressure on the guy to see if they are going to get something out of him at all this season...
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              • dmac_bolt
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                #12907
                Originally posted by AFboltfan View Post

                I would honestly rather complain about the RT situation than not being able to score TD's... Oline talent is easier to find than generational skill position talent, Bowers could have been Harbaugh's Vernon Davis.

                BUT with that said, before you jump all over me... I'm glad we got Alt, he is 100% worth his draft position and will be a great bookend for a long time.

                Scoring TD's is important too...
                I wish I had that crystal ball to see exactly how Path B played out. I wonder, like many. Path B would have had Pipkins at RT, Salyer at RG? Does that just get Herbie killed faster? Would Bowers be effective with other skill players still limited he draws extra attention? Idunno.

                I’m trying to accept our guru friends’ admonitions that its too soon - JH2 made the bet that if they secured the stud RT, the remaining pieces in the building plus Bozeman could fill out a decent IOL. so far that has not worked as they planned, which throws the entire strategic plan up into doubt. We all see it the tip of their spear is bent. Too soon or never? Idunno.

                I love Alt - He’s got crazy unique length paired with superb movement and re-anchor skill that is unseen in normal humans, extraordinary bend for a guy that long and tall. He is ideal for NFL outside tackle position.

                Path B - what do you really look like? Yeah, wish i could see it.
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                • Riverwalk
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                  #12908
                  In summary, the hindsight bros either wanted Bowers with the top pick, a trade down to get Bowers and a RT other than Alt, or trade up with perhaps a 2025 !st rounder for Bowers.

                  Most of these hindsight bros originally liked Bowers but I remember the consensus shifted to Nabors right before the draft.....so there's that inconvenient truth that's been forgotten. So how many hindsight revisions to you get? Unlimited?

                  Me....using my hindsight, would still have picked Alt but would have traded up to get Pittsburgh generational Center, Frazier, with the second pick which means we wouldn't have McConkey but would have looked at FA and other trades to improve WR's.

                  IMO, if you put them on a scale, having Boseman is a bigger liability then having an asset like Bowers.

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                  • Boltnut
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                    #12909
                    Originally posted by DerwinBosa View Post

                    That is downright ridiculous. If that had happened, you'd be on here complaining about our awful right tackle situation.
                    No they wouldn't. They'd be trying to convince us that Trey Pipkins is adequate at RT...
                    Just like they did with Barksdale... or Clary... or Fluker... or Tevi...

                    Now the OT position is taken care of for many years to come. Now go get some "playmakers".
                    Neither Nabers nor Bowers are moving the needle for their teams.
                    They will tell you "it's the quaterbacks". But if these guys are so dominant... why don't they make their QB's better...?

                    It's a complicated game. Let complicated people make the decisions. Joe Hortiz knows what he's doing.
                    Protect the QB
                    Run the ball
                    Play great defense

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                    • dmac_bolt
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                      #12910
                      Originally posted by Riverwalk View Post
                      In summary, the hindsight bros either wanted Bowers with the top pick, a trade down to get Bowers and a RT other than Alt, or trade up with perhaps a 2025 !st rounder for Bowers.

                      Most of these hindsight bros originally liked Bowers but I remember the consensus shifted to Nabors right before the draft.....so there's that inconvenient truth that's been forgotten. So how many hindsight revisions to you get? Unlimited?

                      Me....using my hindsight, would still have picked Alt but would have traded up to get Pittsburgh generational Center, Frazier, with the second pick which means we wouldn't have McConkey but would have looked at FA and other trades to improve WR's.

                      IMO, if you put them on a scale, having Boseman is a bigger liability than having an asset like Bowers.
                      Standing several feet behind your hindsight, I endorse this as another great way-back change to the future many discussed. I really like Conk and think he’s going to be a great value for a long time. I think Nabers would be more dynamic than Bowers and has better hair, but love both of them.

                      But OC is our #1 problem and Frazier is standing out as a great pick for PIT. So 1+1 = Frazier would have been a great add WITH Alt.

                      I would NOT use a #1 pick on OC next draft, however. Unless we’re picking 32, of course. I think the smart value play will be sign a FA OC and draft skill or edge early.
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                      • Riverwalk
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                        #12911
                        Alt and Bowers were both considered generational talent before the draft....i.e. could be the best at their respective positions for years to come.

                        Hortiz didn't pass on Bowers and choose Alt because he thought Bowers wouldn't live up to the hype.

                        He got Alt because he valued the position and talent more.

                        I think we should be grateful we got Alt and leave it at that because in the Telesco era, more often than not, we passed on a blue chipper and picked a bust instead.

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                        • Boltnut
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                          #12912
                          Originally posted by Riverwalk View Post
                          In summary, the hindsight bros either wanted Bowers with the top pick, a trade down to get Bowers and a RT other than Alt, or trade up with perhaps a 2025 !st rounder for Bowers.

                          Most of these hindsight bros originally liked Bowers but I remember the consensus shifted to Nabors right before the draft.....so there's that inconvenient truth that's been forgotten. So how many hindsight revisions to you get? Unlimited?

                          Me....using my hindsight, would still have picked Alt but would have traded up to get Pittsburgh generational Center, Frazier, with the second pick which means we wouldn't have McConkey but would have looked at FA and other trades to improve WR's.

                          IMO, if you put them on a scale, having Boseman is a bigger liability then having an asset like Bowers.
                          I wouldn't change a thing.

                          Alt was my choice @#5.
                          I didn't think McConkey would still be available in the 2nd round... so, obviously on board with that pick.
                          Junior Colson was another one of my favorite players... I didn't think he'd still be there in the 3rd.

                          Bozeman was a roll-of-the-dice. There was little choice in the off-season. Holes had to be filled cheaply. Somehow everyone has forgotten the cap situation at the end of last season... Joe/Jim took some shots. Some have worked out, some have not. Everyone predicted this. Everyone knew this would be a 2 or 3 year re-build. Now we're acting like we/someone could have done better.

                          We'll be $77m under the cap at the end of the year. Releasing Bosa and Pipkins will free up another $32m. But... we'll only have 34 players left on the roster. There are many different ways Joe can go in the off-season during free agency... and 10 draft picks.

                          I trust Joe Hortiz waaaaaay more than these second-guessers and hindsight bros...
                          Watch and learn people...
                          Protect the QB
                          Run the ball
                          Play great defense

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