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  • Boltjolt
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    • Jun 2013
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    #14641
    Originally posted by Velo View Post
    Does anybody still opposed to pursuing Tee Higgins next year?
    Id love to have Higgins, I just don't think we will pursue a 25 mil a year reciever. Has nothing to do with Higgins. I just think the OL will take priority. But if we do and we get him, that would be great.

    I have read that Burrow said he would redo his contact and take less money to pitch in and keep him, so there's that as well. No idea of their cap space.

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    • richpjr
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      #14642
      Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

      Id love to have Higgins, I just don't think we will pursue a 25 mil a year reciever. Has nothing to do with Higgins. I just think the OL will take priority. But if we do and we get him, that would be great.

      I have read that Burrow said he would redo his contact and take less money to pitch in and keep him, so there's that as well. No idea of their cap space.
      The Bengals have $61 million in cap space next year.

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      • dmac_bolt
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        #14643
        Originally posted by Lefty2SLO View Post


        I think they roll with Zion at LG for 1 more year. 4.7m is not much for a starting olineman (Pipkins is gone). Zion's play should improve if he has a quality center playing next to him and a competent RG, so I see them adding 2 IOL and receiver help (WR and TE) in FA, and filling in with the draft.

        This offseason is going to be one of the most interesting in team history . . . . . . . . . I'm looking for Hortiz to kill it
        Thats his cap hit, which includes the dead signing bonus pro-rate money. Zion gets $2.6M base salary and its 100% guaranteed - unless they trade him they will keep him.
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        • dmac_bolt
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          #14644
          Originally posted by richpjr View Post

          The Bengals have $61 million in cap space next year.
          Chase is due $21M salary, guaranteed, and then he’s FA at the end of year. i like Higgins a lot but not more than Chase. Its tough for a team to hold on to two elite WRs forever in the cap world. We’ll see. Higgins is a really really good receiver, he showed today what I’ve seen in many Bengal games. I would love to have him but I doubt JH2 will spend what it takes to get him, there will be multiple suitors.
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          • Bolt4Knob
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            #14645
            Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

            Chase is due $21M salary, guaranteed, and then he’s FA at the end of year. i like Higgins a lot but not more than Chase. Its tough for a team to hold on to two elite WRs forever in the cap world. We’ll see. Higgins is a really really good receiver, he showed today what I’ve seen in many Bengal games. I would love to have him but I doubt JH2 will spend what it takes to get him, there will be multiple suitors.
            Bengals have plenty of ways to create more cap space

            they can release Rankins and Hubbard -
            maybe move on from Hendrickson

            If the Bengals want to keep Higgins - they can do it

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            • dmac_bolt
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              #14646
              Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

              Bengals have plenty of ways to create more cap space

              they can release Rankins and Hubbard -
              maybe move on from Hendrickson

              If the Bengals want to keep Higgins - they can do it
              They can, they just face a similar choice to Joe - do they devote $25M+ to a second elite WR at the cost of not spending it elsewhere. They are at 8 losses with Burrow having a career year of offensive production. They are at like 5th in O pts scored and 27th in D points allowed. They may decide all O and no D isn’t getting them to the last dance. Who knows eh?

              be interesting to watch and find out
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              • richpjr
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                #14647
                Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                They can, they just face a similar choice to Joe - do they devote $25M+ to a second elite WR at the cost of not spending it elsewhere. They are at 8 losses with Burrow having a career year of offensive production. They are at like 5th in O pts scored and 27th in D points allowed. They may decide all O and no D isn’t getting them to the last dance. Who knows eh?

                be interesting to watch and find out
                That is the key point - they could squeeze him in, but that defense is horrible and needs a lot of work.

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                • Chargers8491
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                  #14648
                  Originally posted by richpjr View Post

                  That is the key point - they could squeeze him in, but that defense is horrible and needs a lot of work.
                  I was going to post the same thing. They have to fix the defense. They look like the Chargers 2.0. Elite offense with a shitty defense.
                  1) Cut Becton, Boz(ret), Dissly, DD, Fisk, and Dupree
                  2) Re-sign Tart, Hand (4m), Phillips (5m)
                  3) Sign the ERFA's Williams, Patterson, and Vidal (3m).
                  4) Sign free agents Cole Strange (OG-1.5 m), Whyatt Teller (OG-10m), Luke Fortner (OC-6.5m), Brunskill (OC-vet min) Leo Chenal (LB-5m), Rashid Shaheed (WR- 14m), Cade Otten (TE-8m) Greg Dulcich (TE-3m), K'Lavon Chaisson (ED 9m), Myers (DT-7.8m), Alec Ingold (FB-6m), Hendrickson (ED-25m), Seumalo (OG-9m), AVT (OG). Jenkins (OG- 12m)

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                  • Lefty2SLO
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                    #14649
                    Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                    Thats his cap hit, which includes the dead signing bonus pro-rate money. Zion gets $2.6M base salary and its 100% guaranteed - unless they trade him they will keep him.
                    Agreed . . . . . . . . particularly at that rate

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                    • Bolt4Knob
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                      #14650
                      Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                      They can, they just face a similar choice to Joe - do they devote $25M+ to a second elite WR at the cost of not spending it elsewhere. They are at 8 losses with Burrow having a career year of offensive production. They are at like 5th in O pts scored and 27th in D points allowed. They may decide all O and no D isn’t getting them to the last dance. Who knows eh?

                      be interesting to watch and find out
                      My guess - you are correct. But they have the cap space to make things works. But they should improve the defense with the money if they can.

                      Chargers will have a lot of cap space if they release Bosa and Pipkins. They could afford Higgins and a player like Trey Smith

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                      • electricgold
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                        #14651
                        Originally posted by Bolt-O View Post
                        On Higgins, it depends on how much Burrow will give up on his deal, if they want to keep both Chase and Higgins. I'd love to get him, but I think some deal will get done, or worse, he goes to another AFCW team.
                        Higgins and Trey Smith are the top two free agents on the free agency list, I would be shocked if we signed either, let alone both of the them.

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                        • Chargers8491
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                          #14652
                          Slater is likely going to be re-signed this offseason, so he is going to be a big hit to the cap. His cap hit in 2025 is $19mil.
                          1) Cut Becton, Boz(ret), Dissly, DD, Fisk, and Dupree
                          2) Re-sign Tart, Hand (4m), Phillips (5m)
                          3) Sign the ERFA's Williams, Patterson, and Vidal (3m).
                          4) Sign free agents Cole Strange (OG-1.5 m), Whyatt Teller (OG-10m), Luke Fortner (OC-6.5m), Brunskill (OC-vet min) Leo Chenal (LB-5m), Rashid Shaheed (WR- 14m), Cade Otten (TE-8m) Greg Dulcich (TE-3m), K'Lavon Chaisson (ED 9m), Myers (DT-7.8m), Alec Ingold (FB-6m), Hendrickson (ED-25m), Seumalo (OG-9m), AVT (OG). Jenkins (OG- 12m)

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