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  • Velo
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    #22369
    Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

    good player - thanks for the reminder

    forgot about him... good call out!

    Well thats what they need again!
    The one season Herbert had an elite deep threat in a player like Mike Will he threw for 5K+ yds. MW blew out his knee the following season and was never the same. In his best season MW was superior to Alec Pierce's best season in every category - catches, yds, TDs, catch percentage - except for YPR. I just don't think YPR means very much. MW led the league in YPR in 2019, with 20.4, but it didn't help the Chargers much.

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    • CanadianBoltFan
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      #22370
      Originally posted by Boltnut View Post

      Who knows... maybe Tyler Biadasz (Part2). It happens every year.

      Clowney... pass.
      Most of the guys left... pass.
      Build through the draft. Does Seumalo even fit wide zone...?
      Mitchell and Tomlinson were great signings... especially if he returns to prior form.
      How did we evolve from whining and complaining about never having depth to... whining and complaining about depth players we just signed...?

      I suspect we'll find a good LG in the draft. If a good one slips in the 1st... take it! If Fano slips (due to short arms)... LOL!
      But I also like IOL 3rd-4th rounds. Guys good enough to start Day 1 IMO. I'm grateful some teams have overspent on FA guards... it probably allows some of these draft prospects to drop to us.

      If we get Fano (or insert your favorite guard name here) in the first, then I'd draft an edge in the 2nd.
      Those are really the only "have-to-haves" in this draft. We're situated pretty nicely.
      I am 100% into building mainly through the draft.

      The only thing I thought this year ...in a contending window...yet with major holes....and a league low 5 draft picks but league leading cap space...it might be the one year to show a little flexibility

      One thing that is amusing me is how many times over those 5 draft picks have been used on here

      Things that have all been suggested for drafting here:

      Obvious need for starting guard
      Need for O line depth player
      Need for premium edge rusher
      TE3
      Safety, so important to this defense with Derwin in the slot
      Another good CB
      Some are saying LB


      That is a lot to accomplish with 4 picks in the first 4 rounds and a crapshoot in the 6th

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      • La Costa Boy
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        #22371
        I think having Jefferson back on the defense is similar to getting KA back for the offense........They are just better with them....period. Resign KA and see what falls after the draft and after the comp pick formulas close. One position I am NOT worried about is WR.

        I think Edge, IDL or Corner is our first round pick.......best player that falls. That philosophy could also net you a great OL player. So who knows? Hell if Sadiq falls (unlikely), then I am game for TE. I say this to suggest that none of us know our direction at this point. To over commit in FA for guys that might fit....maybe.....hope so......are injury prone, old, etc. is stupid. Every year post draft there are a slew of guys released. Also May and June releases are going to happen so being in a position to pounce, is a catbird's seat I like.

        This roster is far from over.......FAR from over even after the draft.

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        • Velo
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          #22372
          Originally posted by CanadianBoltFan View Post
          But in the spirit of fairness, I think Pierce is a more unique and dangerous WR weapon than QJ. There was ONE WR in the NFL that averaged over 20 yards a reception - Alec Pierce. Averaging 21.3 yards per catch for a 1000 yard receiver is crazy stuff. His career average is an incredible 18.3
          QJ has been more productive than Pierce in categories that matter - TDs and catch percentage. Yards per reception is a relatively meaningless stat, especially when you factor in the fact that Pierce only catches about 50% of his targets. Mike Williams led the league in 2019 with 20.4 YPR. So what?

          The best WR in the league don't have the best YPR. JSN, Nacua, Ja'Marr Chase, Amon Ra St. Brown, Justin Jefferson, CeeDee Lamb...JSN's 15.1 YPR is the best among this group. What these guys do is catch a high percentage of their targets and score TDs, they are complete WRs; Pierce is not.

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          • DerwinBosa
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            #22373
            Have to wonder how Hortiz structured the contract offer to Pierce, who received $84 million in guarantees from the Colts. Hard to believe Hortiz would offer that much in guarantees. I also find it hard to believe that Hortiz didn't write up the contract offer in a similar way he did with Becton, allowing the team to suffer little cap ramifications if Pierce were to be released before the contract expired.

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            • Jack Burton
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              #22374
              Originally posted by Velo View Post

              When I compare QJ and Alec Pierce, I don't see Pierce being clearly superior. QJ has more TD catches than Pierce in one fewer season, and QJ's catch percentage is significantly better. TDs win games, not ypr. Tre' Harris also has that potential. I just think the Chargers already have 3 WR on the roster, when you factor in Ladd McConkey, who are younger than Pierce who are as dangerous as Pierce.
              Unfortunately, I don’t think from the FO’s attempts immediately when FA opened they agree with you.
              I hear you though…

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              • CanadianBoltFan
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                #22375
                Originally posted by Velo View Post
                QJ has been more productive than Pierce in categories that matter - TDs and catch percentage. Yards per reception is a relatively meaningless stat, especially when you factor in the fact that Pierce only catches about 50% of his targets. Mike Williams led the league in 2019 with 20.4 YPR. So what?

                The best WR in the league don't have the best YPR. JSN, Nacua, Ja'Marr Chase, Amon Ra St. Brown, Justin Jefferson, CeeDee Lamb...JSN's 15.1 YPR is the best among this group. What these guys do is catch a high percentage of their targets and score TDs, they are complete WRs; Pierce is not.
                Actually the only thing that matters is that the Chargers made Pierce a league high offer and were prepared to pay up 29-30 million for him, but will not even pick up QJ's 5th year option to pay him 18 million,and are rumored to be trying to trade him.

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                • Jack Burton
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                  #22376
                  Originally posted by CanadianBoltFan View Post

                  I am not upset at all we didn't get Pierce and am happy we are not paying Pierce 30 million. I think that is alot.

                  But in the spirit of fairness, I think Pierce is a more unique and dangerous WR weapon than QJ. There was ONE WR in the NFL that averaged over 20 yards a reception - Alec Pierce. Averaging 21.3 yards per catch for a 1000 yard receiver is crazy stuff. His career average is an incredible 18.3

                  Then for perspective...imagine you switch Pierce with Herbert and QJ with Daniel Jones and see what happens.
                  I imagine they were trying to pair up Herbert with a real deep threat which opened up all kinds of options for MM with all the other weapons.

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                  • wu-dai clan
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                    #22377
                    My uncle's a DB...and a good one.

                    HowellER KlareTE FarmerOG M'baDT TollisonC 4.3.26

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                    • Velo
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                      #22378
                      Originally posted by CanadianBoltFan View Post
                      Actually the only thing that matters is that the Chargers made Pierce a league high offer and were prepared to pay up 29-30 million for him
                      You can believe that if you want.

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                      • CanadianBoltFan
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                        #22379
                        Originally posted by Velo View Post
                        You can believe that if you want.
                        Don't see any reason not to, it came from a reputable national reporter

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                        • Velo
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                          #22380
                          Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post

                          Unfortunately, I don’t think from the FO’s attempts immediately when FA opened they agree with you.
                          I hear you though…
                          Daniel Jones' completion percentage in 2025 was 68% exactly. Philip Rivers' was 63% exactly. Alec Pierce's catch percentage was 54.8%.

                          Justin Herbert's completion percentage in 2025 was 66.4%. QJ's catch percentage was 60.7%. Tre' Harris' was 69.8%. Ladd McConkey's was 62.3%.

                          Justin Herbert's completion percentage in 2020 was 66.6%. Jalen Guyton's completion percentage in 2020 (his best season) was 50.9%, his YPR was 18.3, which was 2nd among WRs with 25 or more receptions.

                          What does this tell you? I don't get all the hype on Alec Pierce, he isn't a complete WR, he's not worth the contract he got from the Colts IMO. What I know for fact is Hortiz isn't paying him $114M, thank gawd.

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