Goodbye Keenan Allen - WR Discussion

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  • Classic
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    I dont understand moving Keenan, the management has to know he still has plenty left in the tank. Sure we'll take a WR @5 but now that guy will have even more pressure being the best WR we have day 1. Hope Harbaugh is ready for that because now defense wont be respecting our passing game.

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    • Jack Burton
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      Originally posted by Classic View Post
      I dont understand moving Keenan, the management has to know he still has plenty left in the tank. Sure we'll take a WR @5 but now that guy will have even more pressure being the best WR we have day 1. Hope Harbaugh is ready for that because now defense wont be respecting our passing game.
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      • BlazingBolt
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        That's fake news why is it being posted so much.

        Believe anything anyone ever tells you ooo ooo ooo ooo!
        migrated from chargerfans.net then the thenflforum.com then here

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        • QSmokey
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          Originally posted by BlazingBolt View Post
          That's fake news why is it being posted so much.

          Believe anything anyone ever tells you ooo ooo ooo ooo!
          Makes just as much sense as what you're peddling, no? Like I said, you're choosing to die in that ditch. More power to ya, if it makes you feel better.

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          • Bolt4Knob
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            Originally posted by QSmokey View Post

            Makes just as much sense as what you're peddling, no? Like I said, you're choosing to die in that ditch. More power to ya, if it makes you feel better.
            Popper did report, and others too, the team asked him to take a pay cut but he turned it out. Completely his right. Granted, not sure if it was like Mack, just for this year. Or they tried to extend his contract with an AAV of say 17m - something like 3/51 wiuth say 23guaranteed to make him whole but in future years, lower base salaries and he turned it down wanting 3/60 with more guarantees

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            • CanadianBoltFan
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              Originally posted by Classic View Post
              I dont understand moving Keenan, the management has to know he still has plenty left in the tank. Sure we'll take a WR @5 but now that guy will have even more pressure being the best WR we have day 1. Hope Harbaugh is ready for that because now defense wont be respecting our passing game.
              I am not sure they respected our passing game last 2 years. Zero fear of being beat deep, so defenses easily defended our dink and dunk offense and kept it in front of them.

              Lets get a running game they have to worry about and some speed for Herbert strikes on play action.

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              • BlazingBolt
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                Originally posted by QSmokey View Post

                Makes just as much sense as what you're peddling, no? Like I said, you're choosing to die in that ditch. More power to ya, if it makes you feel better.
                Good to chat with you again Q, but are you telling me you love this move and think it was a good trade?

                Were you pounding the table to trade Keenan this offseason before it happened? You were in the keep Bosa and trade Keenan frame of mind?

                Sounds like your just saying the teams always right, in Harbaugh we trust, fuck anyone who disagrees.

                I am not choosing to die at all. I am choosing to express my frustration and disappointment of having one of my all time favorite players dumped while he is still great and a good cap value for a 4th round choice when we don't have anything waiting in the wings to replace what we have lost. This is a great place to do that, thanks to FLEET for keeping this place open for all of us.

                Most people find this a shocking and stunning move and are struggling to make sense of it outside of some people who treat the loyalty to the franchise like their religion that they can not question.
                migrated from chargerfans.net then the thenflforum.com then here

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                • 21&500
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                  Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                  Popper did report, and others too, the team asked him to take a pay cut but he turned it out. Completely his right. Granted, not sure if it was like Mack, just for this year. Or they tried to extend his contract with an AAV of say 17m - something like 3/51 wiuth say 23guaranteed to make him whole but in future years, lower base salaries and he turned it down wanting 3/60 with more guarantees
                  I can't find a source for this.
                  can you or someone provide a source that says KA was offered an extension?
                  I would feel a lot better if that were true.
                  Bolt-UP
                  https://youtube.com/shorts/bTeeVJWuJ...rgGOQwgVbRTQzG
                  https://youtube.com/shorts/9mhgmbQaK...9JQ4bsX7twbfyw

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                  • BigBad
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                    To preface, yes I was ok with trading KA, however it was mainly money related.


                    I've brought this up in years past and wish the NFL would institute an "Icon Tag". Similar to the franchise tag but different. You use it on a true ICON of your franchise.
                    • Cap hit would be vet minimum or some average. - I'd even be fine with ZERO cap hit
                    • Must have been drafted by the Franchise
                    • Must have 10 years+ at the franchise that drafted them
                    • Pillar in the community type guy
                    • Only allowed to use on one player at a time.
                    • Maybe a 3 year limit

                    Fans love guys like this. Most fans don't even want to see guys like that on other teams. I didn't want to see Emmit Smith on the cardinals!

                    Some negatives:
                    • Some owners/GMs/coaches might be against it because they just want to move on and wont have the "too expensive" excuse for fans
                    • Players themselves may want out / union may not like the deal for some unforeseen reason

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                    • CanadianBoltFan
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                      Originally posted by BlazingBolt View Post

                      Good to chat with you again Q, but are you telling me you love this move and think it was a good trade?

                      Were you pounding the table to trade Keenan this offseason before it happened? You were in the keep Bosa and trade Keenan frame of mind?

                      Sounds like your just saying the teams always right, in Harbaugh we trust, fuck anyone who disagrees.

                      I am not choosing to die at all. I am choosing to express my frustration and disappointment of having one of my all time favorite players dumped while he is still great and a good cap value for a 4th round choice when we don't have anything waiting in the wings to replace what we have lost. This is a great place to do that, thanks to FLEET for keeping this place open for all of us.

                      Most people find this a shocking and stunning move and are struggling to make sense of it outside of some people who treat the loyalty to the franchise like their religion that they can not question.
                      Totally get it. We all need to vent sometimes. We lost a great Charger and you are feeling it. We all are. I am sorry to see Keenan go and the trade shocked me. I am just fed up with 4 decades of Chargering so am ready for some real change even if some of it is painful. There was no easy way out of Telesco's salary cap mess.

                      Hang in there. We don't play games for 6 months. The offence will have more weapons before we do.

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                      • Budsman
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                        Originally posted by QSmokey View Post
                        I wonder how long this banter is going to go on in this thread. KA is gone; there's a new regime in town. Does ANYONE think this team didn't need a change at the top? Hard decisions had - and probably still have - to be made. TT and Staley made an actual mess out of this team's roster and salary cap over the past 2-3 years, so something had to be done.

                        And...I doubt this is the end. MW could be back; we could swing a major trade down in the draft; there are other intriguing FAs still out there.

                        Hell, it's been a FUN off-season for a change. KA was a great Charger, but he's now a Chicago Bear. Time to move on.
                        I’m happy you can move on, luckily on a chargers message board some people who really like Allen and disagree with the move can discuss it. I’m sure if you don’t like it you could always… I don’t know… look at a different thread?

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                        • Budsman
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                          Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                          and stop thinking Allen was ever in Rice's class or that Allen is anything but a 2/3 receiver, moves the chains, good in the red zone type receiver these days. He is a very good player - -but time is not on his side.
                          You said he was in rices class, but it’s a fact that they play similarly. I was comparing the type of receiver but you know that and intentionally misrepresented what I said. It’s ok you think Allen is a number two receiver he’s clearly not and his numbers say he’s not but cool.

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