Keenan Allen, Goodbye or Hello Again?

[AFboltfan]

I really like McConkey and believe he has great potential to grow. But I disagree he is better than KA at this point in their respective careers. KA played like a Pro Bowler from the moment he stepped on the field.

/agreed

KA is a master route runner and easy HoF'er... McConkey is a rookie that is starting off just like we need him too, that doesn't make him anywhere near "better" than KA. Comparing their rookie numbers is fair but doesn't mean jack...

[Velo]

I meant current Keenan vs. current Ladd. Young Keenan was awesome but I also think we are just seeing the beginning of something special in Ladd. Both have/had amazing separation skills that just set them apart.

I honestly believe that Ladd can get open on every single play, he's that special and fast. The only thing holding him back is his frailty. He needs to get stronger and learn how to absorb hits better.

Yeah, l think you are right. McConkey is gonna be our Zay Flowers. I hope the injury plaguing him today heals quickly.

[richpjr]

Comparing their rookie numbers is fair but doesn't mean jack...

The stats were posted for the idea that Keenan played like a pro bowler from the moment he stepped on the field. He was no better than McConkey in the beginning of his career.

[Boltjolt]

Ladd is just a better player at this stage of their careers. Atleast Mckonk finds his way back into games after an injury.

Don't agree. At this stage, no. I hope he can be as good as Keenan with his added speed. A faster version would be awesome.
I like how he is playing but Keenan rookie year was pretty good.
71 for 1046, 8 TDs in 15 games, 14 of them starts.

[DerwinBosa]

/agreed

KA is a master route runner and easy HoF'er... McConkey is a rookie that is starting off just like we need him too, that doesn't make him anywhere near "better" than KA. Comparing their rookie numbers is fair but doesn't mean jack...

I don't think he's making it to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Reggie Wayne, Torry Holt, Chad Johnson, and Brandon Marshall aren't in. They all have All-Pro seasons and at least six Pro Bowls. Keenan has six Pro Bowls but no All-Pro years, and it doesn't look like he's going to add anything relevant to his career moving forward.

[21&500]

I meant current Keenan vs. current Ladd. Young Keenan was awesome but I also think we are just seeing the beginning of something special in Ladd. Both have/had amazing separation skills that just set them apart.

I honestly believe that Ladd can get open on every single play, he's that special and fast. The only thing holding him back is his frailty. He needs to get stronger and learn how to absorb hits better.

That would be great but also may slow him down just enough to significantly impact what makes his game special to begin with.
always a risk in getting "getting stronger" because that means more muscle mass which can affect one's play.

That year lamar jackson came in beefed up was one of his worst and ended on IR.
Frankly. Ladd already does a good job of protecting himself, and just need a little more experience.
I don't think it would hurt much to focus on neck and abs. Shouldn't slow him down at all.

[LA_BOLT]

I don't think he's making it to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Reggie Wayne, Torry Holt, Chad Johnson, and Brandon Marshall aren't in. They all have All-Pro seasons and at least six Pro Bowls. Keenan has six Pro Bowls but no All-Pro years, and it doesn't look like he's going to add anything relevant to his career moving forward.

Agreed. I don't see KA making the HoF for the reasons you stated.

Some of the high-end numbers he put up were just empty stats.

[AFboltfan]

I don't think he's making it to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Reggie Wayne, Torry Holt, Chad Johnson, and Brandon Marshall aren't in. They all have All-Pro seasons and at least six Pro Bowls. Keenan has six Pro Bowls but no All-Pro years, and it doesn't look like he's going to add anything relevant to his career moving forward.

Sure, not first ballot. But he'll get in.

[RollingThunder]

Agreed. I don't see KA making the HoF for the reasons you stated.

Some of the high-end numbers he put up were just empty stats.

I mean Antonio Gates was much more prolific and an all time great TE and he still hasn't gotten in. Keenan does not hold a candle to AG.

[FoutsFan]

I mean Antonio Gates was much more prolific and an all time great TE and he still hasn't gotten in. Keenan does not hold a candle to AG.

That was a crime, every HOF voter that did not vote for Gates should be expelled for sheer stupidity from voting any more in HOF selections. too often we hear from these morons, wipes drool from mouth "DUh,,,,,,hOw maNY StuPId BoWlS dOEs hE HaVE? then votes.

[jubei]

The stats were posted for the idea that Keenan played like a pro bowler from the moment he stepped on the field. He was no better than McConkey in the beginning of his career.

I dont think so. Keenan came on strong from the start as a rookie. Ladd is doing decent but nowhere near what Keenan was doing. But natural athletic ability...yes Ladd is more athletic than Keenan ever was.

[BayAreaBoltz]

I dont think so. Keenan came on strong from the start as a rookie. Ladd is doing decent but nowhere near what Keenan was doing. But natural athletic ability...yes Ladd is more athletic than Keenan ever was.

Not quite from the start of his rookie season. He was drafted in the 3rd round (and felt snubbed) then was barely played in the first few games (until Floyd went down). He said he was one snap away from quitting and returning to Berkeley. So for their first 5 games, their stats look very similar I think.

We'll see what the future brings.