2024 Draft Value : Pick # vs Rank

[ThatSinkingFeeling]

Rankings will always differ but I think we got good value for our picks. Still seems a bit of a reach but maybe they valued his versatility such that they figured they'd save themselves a draft pick in taking him?

Still a bit puzzled they did not take a TE.

[northerner]

Weird, I like my tankathon ranking site and feel it's more accurate to the big picture. Colson was ranked 47th

https://www.tankathon.com/nfl/big_board

Our top 3 picks were drafted at or above their rankings...after that all our players picked were all over the board. If you were ranked above 100 you weren't even considered which is where personal scouting really comes into play.

Yeah. I thought Colson was good value.

[northerner]

FYI I used the values where the player actually went vs where he was ranked (CBS's big board) to measure the numerical value in each pick. For ex Joe Alt was ranked at 7 but we got him at 5 so pretty equal value of -2. Positive is steal , -ve red a reach.

This is just a quick look to measure each pick FYI. BTW I thought we had a great draft and am just 'reporting the facts' as Joe Friday would say.

We did ok on most picks w in a round or two of their chart value and got really good value w Brenden Rice & Ladd Mcconkey .

Rnd.	Pick No.	NFL team	Player	Pos.	College	Conf.	Rank	Value
1	5	Los Angeles Chargers	Joe Alt	OT	Notre Dame	Ind. (FBS)	7	(2)
2	34	Los Angeles Chargers	Ladd McConkey	WR	Georgia	SEC	24	10
3	69	Los Angeles Chargers	Junior Colson	LB	Michigan	Big Ten	90	(21)
4	105	Los Angeles Chargers	Justin Eboigbe	DT	Alabama	SEC	159	(54)
5	137	Los Angeles Chargers	Tarheeb Still	CB	Maryland	Big Ten	273	(136)
5	140	Los Angeles Chargers	Cam Hart	CB	Notre Dame	Ind. (FBS)	186	(46)
6	181	Los Angeles Chargers	Kimani Vidal	RB	Troy	Sun Belt	233	(52)
7	225	Los Angeles Chargers	Brenden Rice	WR	USC	Pac-12	143	82
7*	253	Los Angeles Chargers	Cornelius Johnson	WR	Michigan	Big Ten	306	(53)

Thx for putting this together. I think some picks had different ratings on other sites, but this is still helpful to see. The only pick that felt weird at the time was the DL in round 4, but it sounds like we are betting against an injury risk.

[ChargersPowderBlue]

It looks to me like there's a 'personality' that Hortiz & Co. are looking for, and drafting, that I'd sum up *this* way:

Work ethic, attitude, competitiveness, love of the game, and physicality.

The more guys like that you have on your roster, the more players are bringing the best out of each other.

Chad Alexander has been with Joe Hortiz for 20 years. He was with him for guys like Humphry and McAlister.

[ChargersPowderBlue]

Rankings will always differ but I think we got good value for our picks. Still seems a bit of a reach but maybe they valued his versatility such that they figured they'd save themselves a draft pick in taking him?

Still a bit puzzled they did not take a TE.

They acquired two TEs this off-season, Hurst and Dissly. And Donald Parham exists.

[northerner]

They acquired two TEs this off-season, Hurst and Dissly. And Donald Parham exists.

true - it is a 3-step process:

1. initial free agency - lose guys and add guys.
2. the draft
3. second wave of free agency - to clean up loose ends after free agency and the draft.

also, i was excited about Parham 2 or 3 years ago and then he never developed. the freaky concussion against KC also set him back.

he had some horrible drops last season - easy balls.

[Lone Bolt]

So...some are pointing out different rankings from different sites...here is a comparison using a consensus database, compiling hundreds of different Big Boards...

Name Pick Consensus Rank
Alt 5 10
McConkey 34 33
Colson 69 64
J.E. 105 143
Still 137 272
Hart 140 106
Vidal 181 186
Rice 225 111
C. Johnson 253 200

So...first 3 bout right...some reaches....some steals...I'm good with it...

[Kylars]

Colson @ 90 is a terrible ranking. I have seen him as high (or is it low) the late 30s.

Beast has
Alt - 5
Ladd - 31
Colson - 42

[Fouts2herbert]

I'm really curious to see how Greg Roman gets McConkey involved in the offense. There are a number of other prospects that I, personally, would have drafted ahead of McConkey, including Johnny Newton, Cooper Dejean, Jackson Powers-Johnson and Braden Fiske.

All of them went off the board within the next 10 picks, and seemed like excellent fits to gaping holes on the Bolts roster, so I'll be keeping an eye on their careers, relative to McConkey's.

Why so curious? He's a polished route running slot receiver that will surprise DBs with long speed on play action for chunk plays...it's not rocket science it's just classic football, if the secondary is worried about getting it pounded down their throats then you stomp on their fucking necks with the long ball...not sure why you're having a difficult time visualizing this other than you liked other people more than McConkey...

[Lone Bolt]

So...some are pointing out different rankings from different sites...here is a comparison using a consensus database, compiling hundreds of different Big Boards...

Name Pick Consensus Rank
Alt 5 10
McConkey 34 33
Colson 69 64
J.E. 105 143
Still 137 272
Hart 140 106
Vidal 181 186
Rice 225 111
C. Johnson 253 200

So...first 3 bout right...some reaches....some steals...I'm good with it...

What is funny...if you just shuffle around the picks...it lines up pretty good value wise...and if someone told me after the draft who we picked...but not when...this is how I would have ordered them...and it would have made a ton of sense...

1st. Alt
2nd. McConkey
3rd. Colson
4th. Rice
5th. Hart
5th. Eboigbe
6th. Vidal
7th. Johnson
7th. Still

Lol...I guess who cares how we got them or when...I'm pretty happy with the haul!

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

Why so curious? He's a polished route running slot receiver that will surprise DBs with long speed on play action for chunk plays...it's not rocket science it's just classic football, if the secondary is worried about getting it pounded down their throats then you stomp on their fucking necks with the long ball...not sure why you're having a difficult time visualizing this other than you liked other people more than McConkey...

Xavier Leggette-- picked a few spots before McConkey was-- would have been a more prototypical fit because the Bolts are building a shove-it-down-your-throat offense in which receivers will be expected to block enthusiastically. Size matters. The players that I preferred would have addressed needs every bit as important as WR, Not sure why it seems odd to you, that I'd be comparing their careers, moving forward. I'll be doing the same thing with Malik Nabers-- measuring his impact, compared to the impact of Joe Alt.

[bman6555]

Outside Still there weren't any big reaches compared to most boards.

The difference in ranks is miniscule when you go down deeper in the draft. For example between a player ranked 250 vs 300 there is probably less difference than between 5 vs 10.
They did well on the top half of the draft right, which is where it counts. The bottom half is filling roster holes and taking shots on guys you think might become relevant.
Most of the guys from the 4th round and on aren't going to be on the roster more than 1-2 years.