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  • jamrock
    lawyers, guns and money
    • Sep 2017
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    Originally posted by CanadianBoltFan View Post

    LOl pretty strange hobby for a 27 year old dude with millions
    Millions before this past week. Thousands now. Time to till the earth Herbert.

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    • CanadianBoltFan
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      • Jul 2022
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      Originally posted by jamrock View Post

      Millions before this past week. Thousands now. Time to till the earth Herbert.
      Lol nice. Thanks for the levity

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      • La Costa Boy
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        • Sep 2018
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        Originally posted by jamrock View Post
        Looking forward to those Trey Lance Jalen Reagor heaters next season
        You mean on the back-ups practice field an hour after practice is over? Time to hone that craft.......or wait for traffic to die down.

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        • Heatmiser
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          • Jun 2013
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          Originally posted by Ghost of Quacksaw View Post

          *IF* Joes Hortiz believes that the Charger's coaching staff can get Trey Lance corrected, then this is a great move. Invest up to three years doing a Darnold project with him, and re-evaluate his progress annually.

          His tool set is vastly better than Stick's. With Herb as the unquestioned starter, this could be the right un-pressured environment for Trey Lance to get some things figured out.
          Hmmmm….sounds eerily like what was supposed to happen in Dallas.

          Actual result? Beat out by a street FA named Grier.who played for 6 teams (two Cowboys stints so only counted them once). . Chargers were one of the 6!
          Like, how am I a traitor? Your team are traitors.

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          • Ghost of Quacksaw
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            • May 2021
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            Originally posted by Heatmiser View Post

            Hmmmm….sounds eerily like what was supposed to happen in Dallas.

            Actual result? Beat out by a street FA named Grier.who played for 6 teams (two Cowboys stints so only counted them once). . Chargers were one of the 6!
            Signing Lance is about as low-risk as it gets. If he gets cuts before the season starts, are the Chargers any worse off?

            IMO, Hortiz and his staff see something in Trey Lance that's addressable, and they're going to take a shot at it.

            Not especially likely that anything comes from it, but unless Trey Lance drives his car onto the practice field and starts doing doughnuts, nobody is going to get hurt, either.

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            • dmac_bolt
              JH3 and Me
              • May 2019
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              Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

              😂 What?

              He hardly played. Got sacked 3 times in a game Herb wasn't good in against Pittsburgh and Heinicke was 3 of 5 passing on the season. Got 10 Garbage time snaps in NE
              Hardly a good enough look to say he didn't look good last season.
              Lance has youth on Heinicke, that's about it it.
              At least we can say Hortiz doesn't keep running Stick back out as the backup like Telesco..Hortiz told Johnboy .....I don't give a shit if you personally scouted him, he sux!
              I said that I’m not certain. You could be right. I don’t know yet, look forward to seeing the competion. Heinicke played in 4 reg season games for us. Very limited. Garbage time. Agree with all of that. He posted a bad QB rating, we’ll see how they both perform in camp and PS. I’m not betting on either, you can go all in on Heinicke. Good luck!

              I’d take either over Stick, we can agree on that.
              “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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              • Bolt4Knob
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                • Dec 2019
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                Originally posted by Ghost of Quacksaw View Post

                Signing Lance is about as low-risk as it gets. If he gets cuts before the season starts, are the Chargers any worse off?

                IMO, Hortiz and his staff see something in Trey Lance that's addressable, and they're going to take a shot at it.

                Not especially likely that anything comes from it, but unless Trey Lance drives his car onto the practice field and starts doing doughnuts, nobody is going to get hurt, either.
                Telesco drafted Max Duggan. I knew that was a disaster from the get go. I just knew he was not an NFL ready QB

                A lot of mocks had the Chargers taking a QB in Rounds 6 or 7. So, a project
                Trey Lance costs more - but he is probably a bit further ahead than one of those types in the draft
                low risk - very low. Probably won't cost more than $2m - IF he makes the roster

                The bar has been pretty low for 3rd string QB lately

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                • dmac_bolt
                  JH3 and Me
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                  Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                  Telesco drafted Max Duggan. I knew that was a disaster from the get go. I just knew he was not an NFL ready QB

                  A lot of mocks had the Chargers taking a QB in Rounds 6 or 7. So, a project
                  Trey Lance costs more - but he is probably a bit further ahead than one of those types in the draft
                  low risk - very low. Probably won't cost more than $2m - IF he makes the roster

                  The bar has been pretty low for 3rd string QB lately
                  Step 1 is you have to make defenses respect the entire field. Duggan had a shit arm, a bad double clutch, and couldnt run. Stick had a shit arm and couldn’t see over the DL. If you want to stop defenses from crashing the LOS and beating your backup to a pulp with embarrassing disrespect, you need a backup that can throw a 15 yard out at least. Neither of them could throw a basic mid-yardage out pass against NFL DBs.

                  Lance has had a rough go in the NFL. He has physical gifts that have not materialized on the field. We’ll see - sometimes it eventually comes together, more often it doesn’t. Not a huge risk to sign a guy without giving up anything, pending of course what we found out that his contract actually says in terms of guarantee (any?) vs “possible” (won’t happen) money.

                  I do not expect a $6M guarantee. Actual terms can change everyone’s opinion of the signing quickly, can’t wait to find out
                  “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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                  • Bolt4Knob
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                    Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                    Step 1 is you have to make defenses respect the entire field. Duggan had a shit arm, a bad double clutch, and couldnt run. Stick had a shit arm and couldn’t see over the DL. If you want to stop defenses from crashing the LOS and beating your backup to a pulp with embarrassing disrespect, you need a backup that can throw a 15 yard out at least. Neither of them could throw a basic mid-yardage out pass against NFL DBs.

                    Lance has had a rough go in the NFL. He has physical gifts that have not materialized on the field. We’ll see - sometimes it eventually comes together, more often it doesn’t. Not a huge risk to sign a guy without giving up anything, pending of course what we found out that his contract actually says in terms of guarantee (any?) vs “possible” (won’t happen) money.

                    I do not expect a $6M guarantee. Actual terms can change everyone’s opinion of the signing quickly, can’t wait to find out
                    As long as the signing bonus is under a million - -see what he has in OTAs and training camp - if he shows up, keep him. If not release him. My guess getting to $6m will take a LOT of things to happen

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                    • jamrock
                      lawyers, guns and money
                      • Sep 2017
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                      Chargers are building a team to win in the pre season

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                      • Boltjolt
                        Dont let the PBs fool ya
                        • Jun 2013
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                        Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                        I said that I’m not certain. You could be right. I don’t know yet, look forward to seeing the competion. Heinicke played in 4 reg season games for us. Very limited. Garbage time. Agree with all of that. He posted a bad QB rating, we’ll see how they both perform in camp and PS. I’m not betting on either, you can go all in on Heinicke. Good luck!

                        I’d take either over Stick, we can agree on that.
                        All im saying is Heinicke has started games, ...29 in fact. Looked good in some, not so good in others. Lance has yet to make it to 2nd string. And yes id even take Lance over Stick but i dont expect him to beat out TH. My guess is Lance base pay is 1.2 mil and will never see the 6.2 incentives....IF he makes the team, but if Stick did, i d think Lance will.

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                        • powderblueboy
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                          Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                          Telesco drafted Max Duggan. I knew that was a disaster from the get go. I just knew he was not an NFL ready QB

                          A lot of mocks had the Chargers taking a QB in Rounds 6 or 7. So, a project
                          Trey Lance costs more - but he is probably a bit further ahead than one of those types in the draft
                          low risk - very low. Probably won't cost more than $2m - IF he makes the roster

                          The bar has been pretty low for 3rd string QB lately
                          That was the year TT parked his camper across the street from the TCU campus, and did the authentic south west Tex Mex restaraunt binge he always craved that entire draft season.
                          Mission accomplished.

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