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  • dmac_bolt
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    • May 2019
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    Originally posted by Charge! View Post

    I agree, but overall draft stats dont mean much.

    The percentages of a draft pick living up to potential are much higher than average for great organizations..... and even lower for bad organizations like /Chargers used to be....

    even fans can get first rounders right a decent amount of time, but the great organizations are the ones that hit more than they miss after the 1st round... especially in rounds 3-5 where great teams fill out their depth with key contributers and some future starters.....
    “Much” higher is what - 15%? “Even lower” is how much - 5%? Either you know, or you’re making it up. Post actual data.
    “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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    • CanadianBoltFan
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      • Jul 2022
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      Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

      lol, you're a good man. I never used the word failure.

      KLS is a 5th rounder. 5 is closer to 7 than it is to 2, right?

      History says that 10% of 5th rounders become meaningful contributors. I am excited about our new R5ers too. But I try to be rational, and betting two R5 players both beat the 10% odds not just eventually, but on opening day, those are long odds. Common sense says hold onto Q as insurance. I am still baffled by the staunch resistance. I really am

      its all good - I can' wait to see these new guys beat the odds bigly!
      Cmon! Its the off season...sugar plums only!!

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      • CanadianBoltFan
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        • Jul 2022
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        Originally posted by electricgold View Post
        Let's face it more than likely Bozeman will be our staring CENTER and Zion Johnson will be our starting LG! They're going that way!
        That is the only downer of the off season, everything else pretty rosy.

        I can give Zion one last chance but cant help but think Bozeman will be a disaster again

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        • Bolts&noles
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          • Dec 2019
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          Originally posted by CanadianBoltFan View Post

          That is the only downer of the off season, everything else pretty rosy.

          I can give Zion one last chance but cant help but think Bozeman will be a disaster again
          Most concerning position on the team imo

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          • Topcat
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            • Jan 2019
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            Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

            I don’t think everyone remembers the bandy and storm norton years.

            Dont forget - bandy had a hell of a preseason too
            Someone commented that this is the deepest Bolt team in many years...depth is important...QJ and Pip may have their warts, but they're better than the average backup...and it's still to be determined how QJ fares in the PS...
            22 - TE Mason Taylor
            55 - RB Quinshon Judkins
            86 - DL Josiah Stewart
            125 - G Dylan Fairchild
            158 - C Jake Majors
            181 - WR Donte Thornton

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            • wu-dai clan
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              • May 2017
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              I see it as very unlikely that QJ will start making plays in the clutch, although it is possible.

              We now have other players who should be given opportunities ahead of him.

              BTW the whole reason for drafting QJ ahead of Zay was that we already had Keenan working mostly at slot. Now we have Ladd.

              It is not possible for QJ to be both worthy of starter snaps at big slot, and contrarily for other weapon needy teams to be blindly uninterested in a trade.

              Have a look at our roster spots, with our WR depth and with our offense, we would be better off keeping Fisk.

              IMV a fresh start for QJ and the Chargers is in order, and maybe a trade partner will appear in late August.

              That is sound judgement.
              Last edited by wu-dai clan; Today, 02:54 AM.
              We play modern Harball.

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              • Riverwalk
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                • Nov 2021
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                Originally posted by Bolts&noles View Post

                Most concerning position on the team imo
                DL just as concerning.

                No guarantee Caldwell will be dominant in the center of the defense in his very first NFL season. If it turns out he is….then every team made a huge mistake not taking him in round 1 or 2 and he will be up for DROY honors.

                It seems like most here are just assuming his first season will be as good as Poona was last year. That’s an exceedingly high expectation.

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                • Riverwalk
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                  Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                  We now have other players who should be given opportunities ahead of him (QJ)

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                  Realistically, that isnt going to happen simply because he’s a vet and the protocol that entitles them.

                  While I share your lack of confidence in QJ, I believe his “starter” status will be one to lose versus elevating any rookie ahead of him in training camp.





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                  • Lone Bolt
                    Oline-Tip of the Spear...
                    • Feb 2019
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                    Originally posted by Riverwalk View Post

                    Realistically, that isnt going to happen simply because he’s a vet and the protocol that entitles them.

                    While I share your lack of confidence in QJ, I believe his “starter” status will be one to lose versus elevating any rookie ahead of him in training camp.




                    I dont think its that simple...and I think this staff is gonna put the best out there...competition is real with this staff...

                    Now, I will grant you, if Q keeps his head, has a good camp, looks good, is a good team guy, working hard, and its close? I can see him getting the nod early...

                    If he is successful, it only helps the team...both thru production helping us win, and raising his value as a commodity, either as a trade asset, or a comp return thru FA in a couple of years...

                    But if he stumbles, I imagine he gets the hook pretty quick, lol
                    Lone Bolt's Final Mock

                    Tyler Booker G, Josaiah Stewart Edge, Cam Skattebo RB, Mitchell Evans TE, Jamaree Caldwell NT, Isaac TeSlaa WR, Ahmed Hassanein DE, Craig Woodson S, Eli Cox C, Kalel Mullings RB

                    Sleeper day 3 pick: Tahj Brooks RB Texas Tech

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                    • Riverwalk
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                      Originally posted by Lone Bolt View Post

                      I dont think its that simple...and I think this staff is gonna put the best out there...competition is real with this staff...

                      Now, I will grant you, if Q keeps his head, has a good camp, looks good, is a good team guy, working hard, and its close? I can see him getting the nod early...

                      If he is successful, it only helps the team...both thru production helping us win, and raising his value as a commodity, either as a trade asset, or a comp return thru FA in a couple of years...

                      But if he stumbles, I imagine he gets the hook pretty quick, lol
                      Sure, “if he stumbles”, as you out it it, he gets demoted in the depth chart, but I didn’t say that wouldn’t happen.

                      The OP said other players “should be given opportunities ahead of QJ”.

                      That’s what I said is unrealistic.

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                      • dmac_bolt
                        JH3 and Me
                        • May 2019
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                        Originally posted by CanadianBoltFan View Post

                        Cmon! It’s the off season...sugar plums only!!
                        I agree! The more plums the better - stop throwing away my plums! I’m keeping all of the plums till they are ripe and juicy!
                        “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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                        • dmac_bolt
                          JH3 and Me
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                          Originally posted by Bolts&noles View Post

                          Most concerning position on the team imo
                          I agree, until we see the IOL is different, I don’t see enough on paper to know for sure. I see one new stud I can bet on. Add in 1 rookie I doubt can be ready and one recycled reclamation (James) and thats what we’ve added to fix a dysfunctional 3-player group. 3-1 =2 unknowns imo. We are expecting someone we had last year plays better this year.
                          “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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