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  • Bolt4Knob
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    • Dec 2019
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    Originally posted by Cdn Bolt View Post

    The details of their deals are not available so these are just general #s. The pt is we have lots of $ still
    I have no clue what Hortiz is doing or the Chargers but they are not serious about winning

    They had a bunch of cap space and are just wasting it on average players

    Denzel Perryman at 3.5m is a joke
    Bradley Bozeman - signed ahead of a REAL Center or Guard - is a joke
    Nothing at WR - I think the interest in Adams and Metcalf was just a bunch of BS

    They haven't extended Slater --

    Until I see otherwise - back to the Spanii and John Boy = this reeks of the Spanii!!

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    • Boltjolt
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      • Jun 2013
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      Originally posted by AKFlyFisher View Post
      I trust Hortiz and Harbaugh. I trust that there are specific players and attributes they are looking for. They are also managing a team with a significant amount of money spent at QB, likely a lot of money being spent at LT with an extension, and a lot of money at safety. In building this team, as I said elsewhere, Hortiz wants to raise the floor. Spending big money on FAs may improve a position, but it means are positions are not addressed; thereby failing to raise the team's floor. Telesco failed miserably at providing this team with a solid floor -- and it showed. We are going to see if Hortiz can do it -- and I think he can.

      We should look back and see when players like Poona Ford, Tartt, Fulton, and Dissly were signed. I think they were much later in the FA cycle than folks may realize. You are about to see a ton of players hit the waiver wire, and those players will be cheap, won't cost comp picks, and will raise the floor of this team. Hortiz is adhering to the Ravens model in every way.
      Poona was signed on March 14th last year, Tart mid August, Dissly was the first FA they signed, Fulton March 28.

      We made the playoffs last year.
      KC hasn't got better. Denver, maybe...Raiders got better when they hired Carroll but haven't done much but get Geno as their QB.

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      • richpjr
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        • Jun 2013
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        Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post


        One thing, when you have a roster with 51 players, which they have now with Perryman and Juste, the rookies will only cost a NET $3-5m since they are taking the place of players already being allocated.

        There is ONLY plausiable explanation

        Dean Spanos is cash poor and can't fund the roster. Hortiz is not this stupid or bad
        Oh jeez, this again. Spanos HAS to spend 95% of the cap space so isn't cash poor.

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        • Critty
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          Mosley was released by Jets. Is he a 1 year deal for Hortiz, he is a former Raven and Perryman has a bit of injury history.
          Who has it better than us?

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          • jamrock
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            • Sep 2017
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            Originally posted by AKFlyFisher View Post
            I trust Hortiz and Harbaugh. I trust that there are specific players and attributes they are looking for. They are also managing a team with a significant amount of money spent at QB, likely a lot of money being spent at LT with an extension, and a lot of money at safety. In building this team, as I said elsewhere, Hortiz wants to raise the floor. Spending big money on FAs may improve a position, but it means are positions are not addressed; thereby failing to raise the team's floor. Telesco failed miserably at providing this team with a solid floor -- and it showed. We are going to see if Hortiz can do it -- and I think he can.

            We should look back and see when players like Poona Ford, Tartt, Fulton, and Dissly were signed. I think they were much later in the FA cycle than folks may realize. You are about to see a ton of players hit the waiver wire, and those players will be cheap, won't cost comp picks, and will raise the floor of this team. Hortiz is adhering to the Ravens model in every way.
            This is where your analysis is wrong. They have a bunch of money to spend and several positions that need significant upgrades. They don't spend the money evenly across the roster, no team does. Every NFL team has a handful or more of guys getting paid large money, some middle class guys and a bunch of younger players on rookie deals or roster fillers getting paid at the low end. The guys the Chargers are missing out on right now are not getting paid top of the market salaries. they're mid level salaries and we have the money.

            The current strategy just means that all positions will be addressed with late cuts, guys who went unsigned for whatever reason (like JK coming off consecutive injuries last year) or draft picks. You've gotta have some big time players on your roster and they usually cost big money.

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            • Charge!
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              Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

              no way are they at $30m cap space. no fucking way. More like $60M or more.
              agree...all the signings were cheap excpt Mac

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              • Lone Bolt
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                • Feb 2019
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                Originally posted by Critty View Post
                Mosley was released by Jets. Is he a 1 year deal for Hortiz, he is a former Raven and Perryman has a bit of injury history.
                I would think no...we have Henly, Colson, Dye, and Perryman...pretty well set at LB
                Lone Bolt's Final Mock

                Tyler Booker G, Josaiah Stewart Edge, Cam Skattebo RB, Mitchell Evans TE, Jamaree Caldwell NT, Isaac TeSlaa WR, Ahmed Hassanein DE, Craig Woodson S, Eli Cox C, Kalel Mullings RB

                Sleeper day 3 pick: Tahj Brooks RB Texas Tech

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                • Ghost of Quacksaw
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                  As far as I can tell, Mekhi Becton hasn't yet been signed. I can't believe we aren't hearing a bunch of false rumors, tying him the the Chargers.

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                  • CanadianBoltFan
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                    Originally posted by JOJAX85 View Post

                    I hoped we brought in more of the "top rated guys" as well, but just because others did doesn't necessarily mean those signees pan out either. And chances are better than not these teams will be in Cap Hell in a year or 2. We've got a LONG way before opening day kickoff. Sometimes the shiny new whip loses it's luster when the payment is due. I'm not panicking yet.
                    Dmac has a point though

                    First they did well with defensive bargain signings last year but not with offense. IOL was a huge failure. We have done nothing there and the best options are off the table. You cant do it all in the draft from the 22nd pick each round... Need OL, TE, WR another RB, Edge , DT

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                    • Lone Bolt
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                      Originally posted by Ghost of Quacksaw View Post
                      As far as I can tell, Mekhi Becton hasn't yet been signed. I can't believe we aren't hearing a bunch of false rumors, tying him the the Chargers.
                      What I have read has teams turning from him, and going after Jenkins...Bengals and Giants, I think...Becton might feel he has earned a big pay day, but nobody biting.
                      Lone Bolt's Final Mock

                      Tyler Booker G, Josaiah Stewart Edge, Cam Skattebo RB, Mitchell Evans TE, Jamaree Caldwell NT, Isaac TeSlaa WR, Ahmed Hassanein DE, Craig Woodson S, Eli Cox C, Kalel Mullings RB

                      Sleeper day 3 pick: Tahj Brooks RB Texas Tech

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                      • Bolt4Knob
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                        Originally posted by richpjr View Post

                        Oh jeez, this again. Spanos HAS to spend 95% of the cap space so isn't cash poor.
                        prove me wrong
                        the last big signing was Joe Alt
                        everything else has been minimum contracts or nominal

                        they had 75m of cap space to spend -- and they are signing average to below average players

                        they haven't extended Slater

                        Hortiz isn't stupid
                        he is being hamstrung

                        you can spent the cap by just signing guys to one year deals

                        this is a joke - and its because the owner is too damn cheap

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                        • Bolt4Knob
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                          Originally posted by Ghost of Quacksaw View Post
                          As far as I can tell, Mekhi Becton hasn't yet been signed. I can't believe we aren't hearing a bunch of false rumors, tying him the the Chargers.
                          He won't be a Charger
                          too expensive

                          hernandez for one year, 6m or something like that

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