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[Topcat]

Stop it Arroyo at 22nd is too rich.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

[Eurobolt]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

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[Icebolt]

Stop it Arroyo at 22nd is too rich.

Hampton, Grant or Loveland should be the poll.

[Icebolt]

Unless they eval Grant as a stud, then take Loveland ( he will not be there ). You can get a RB or DL later. How about Booker the a TE in Rd. #2?

[Boltjolt]

Stop it Arroyo at 22nd is too rich.

Yeah...its crazy talk but you cant stop it here lol.

Who gets drafted first? Arroyo or Zabel?

[Boltjolt]

I am starting to turn towards your thought process at WR. Draft the long term X receiver and spend a bit less ($10m or less) on a Brown, Slayton or Williams. I mean, of the veteran WR - you know I like Adams. But I am thinking spend that money on a young DT/DE type

So you bring back Mack (or spend on Edge), you bring back Ford - instead of spending big on WR - bring in like Golston or Osa or the Colts player Odaybingo and really shore up the front 7. Combined with spend on Center and Right Guard. Part of the thought process is also there seem to be better DT/DE options that are younger than WR. Plus you add the price - if spend 15-20m, prefer it not on a bridge player like most of the WRs.

Draft your X WR and get a veteran. Right now there are so many veteran WRs on the market, and Kirk is about to join - you might get one for pretty reasonable if patient. Does that mean the WR will the perfect X - maybe, maybe not. Will they be a better veteran than Chark - probably.

I dont really want them either. Giant fans say Slayton cant catch a cold.....which is an exageration but he does have drop issues like QJ. Brown is just meh and isnt anything but fast....if he can stay on the field. Williams....Mike Williams? I thought about him but then i thought,..... would i rather have him or Keenan for a season? But id take Mike on a 1 year deal. He did well for us at X with Lombo. Knee should be even better now.

Then i went further down to Zay Jones who has produced and Noah Brown. I came to the conclusion .....IDK. But thinking thats the type we may end up with on a 1 year deal. Even JuJu.....so i just didnt add one lol. Not liking this WR FA class to commit more than 1 year.

I would take any mentioned here but only for a 1 year deal. Kirk i like, but he might cost some but he is a good reciever if he gets cut and is 28.

[Bolt4Knob]

I dont really want them either. Giant fans say Slayton cant catch a cold.....which is an exageration but he does have drop issues like QJ. Brown is just meh and isnt anything but fast....if he can stay on the field. Williams....Mike Williams? I thought about him but then i thought,..... would i rather have him or Keenan for a season? But id take Mike on a 1 year deal. He did well for us at X with Lombo. Knee should be even better now.

Then i went further down to Zay Jones who has produced and Noah Brown. I came to the conclusion .....IDK. But thinking thats the type we may end up with on a 1 year deal. Even JuJu.....so i just didnt add one lol. Not liking this WR FA class to commit more than 1 year.

I would take any mentioned here but only for a 1 year deal. Kirk i like, but he might cost some but he is a good reciever if he gets cut and is 28.

I know I know I was a proponent of Adams but I also know that he is a "bridge" player. And I don't think it would be wise to have bridge players at: Mack (Edge), Kelly (Center), WR (Adams or another 30 something and maybe RG (Zeitler) or Scherff
Maybe two of those four positions - but I think the other two - they need the long term answer. Hence, that is why I thought maybe just finding the cheaper WR, but draft one for sure that complements Ladd.

I would rather see Hortiz sign the right long term piece at DT so be it over overpsending for a player that might have 1-2 good years left

[gzubeck]

This is probably the worst take I've seen you type on here, I'm only responding to this because of respect for previous posts I've read from you, that and we are all prone to brain farts at times, but you are dead wrong on this one, if you want a franchise LT then you have to pay...with all the shit we've had at the OT positions for such a long time we lock up these two studs we have right now, no questions asked, just like the Lions have, just like the Eagles have with their two OTs, we of all fan bases know full well these guys are NOT easy to find...Slater is young, he's durable, he's a great team guy, there is literally not one single logical argument that can be made to justify moving on from him or saying that he's not worth the money, not one...you really missed the toilet bowl on this one...

I get what your saying...But we also thought the same from Bosa and he became an injury problem bust. I'm not questioning your logic from a desirable player psychological perspective but from possible expensive problematic players that are oft injured and unavailable to perform. I don't even have a problem paying a player $25 mil per year if they can do their job. It's always about the guaranteed money that's on the books for the entire organization. If everything works out then my concerns are moot but we have witnessed on our team as well as others that guaranteed money can be a huge boat anchor that NFL organizations didn't experience let's say 20 years ago. As you say we had two of the best tackles in the NFL last year and yet we still had huge problems with our oline in the middle. If a deal can be done that's palatable for both parties I'm good with that also. Heartburn starts to set in with let's say $116 million in guaranteed money.

[Bolt4Knob]

I get what your saying...But we also thought the same from Bosa and he became an injury problem bust. I'm not questioning your logic from a desirable player psychological perspective but from possible expensive problematic players that are oft injured and unavailable to perform. I don't even have a problem paying a player $25 mil per year if they can do their job. It's always about the guaranteed money that's on the books for the entire organization. If everything works out then my concerns are moot but we have witnessed on our team as well as others that guaranteed money can be a huge boat anchor that NFL organizations didn't experience let's say 20 years ago. As you say we had two of the best tackles in the NFL last year and yet we still had huge problems with our oline in the middle. If a deal can be done that's palatable for both parties I'm good with that also. Heartburn starts to set in with let's say $116 million in guaranteed money.

if you spend the money on the right players - not an issue

[gzubeck]

if you spend the money on the right players - not an issue

Injury problems are a concern with EVERY NFL PLAYER including Mahomes and Herbert etc. If it's not a problem why have huge guaranteed contracts? There should be no guarantees past the first two years of the contract.

[foreigner]

Time to start with the Mental Jerk Offs.....

[Bolt4Knob]

Injury problems are a concern with EVERY NFL PLAYER including Mahomes and Herbert etc. If it's not a problem why have huge guaranteed contracts? There should be no guarantees past the first two years of the contract.

I just am not sure a team can be afraid to win. Can't be reckless. Have to be thoughtful, strategic and due diligence on every player. As for the guarantees - much of the guarantees come up front..in the signing bonus and maybe year 2 is guaranteed.