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  • sonorajim
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    #24433
    Originally posted by Topcat View Post

    Yep...that's what Bobby Beathard used to do...trade back repeatedly until we had a fistful of jags...
    Beathard took us to our only Super Bowl so far. He should get a little credit for that. Not to mention Seau, Means, Jamal Williams and others.

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    • Fouts2herbert
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      #24434
      I think the focus will be similar to last year and the year before, focus on internal guys, then spread the wealth in FA with budget friendly deals...Last year when I told you guys what Hortiz was going to do, some people got upset and pointed out how much cap space we had and all that sort of thing...

      I will post it again and I'm sure those folks will not like to hear it once again...in my defense there's an established track record AND Hortiz already said in the presser that his primary focus will be to retain our internal guys before looking at anything else and it makes sense, you don't want your guys to hit the market...they might pursue one high priced free agent to replace Bozeman...

      I'm not 100% sure that they will automatically cut Becton. I wonder if the new OC and O-line coaches might be allowed to decide whether or not Becton stays or goes...

      It's not going to be sexy and it's not going to be splashy but Hortiz is going to load up on depth again, one MAYBE two positions on O-line will be addressed in the free agency and probably both in the draft, O-line will be a focus for sure, how much remains to be seen but if I've learned anything from watching how Hortiz works in his short time with the Chargers he attacks positions in bunches and I think O-line is going to get a big infusion of young blood in this coming draft...

      other areas where the draft will hit will include improving depth at TE and Edge

      Our internal free agents will eat up a big chunk of our cap, Oweh, Zion, and Tart come to mind...maybe they work on a Tuli extension right before the 2026 season starts?
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      • Javia
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        #24435
        Originally posted by Riverwalk View Post

        You have two different sources on the Chargers explain the biggest problem but I guess you don’t trust the players themselves.

        Becton said the coaching sucked publicly and Charger offensive players told the Patriots defense we got out coached.

        Listen to the Charger players. Don’t take my word for what was self evident.
        Consider the source: Becton has a 6 year career and stunk for 5. Has Bozeman ever had a good year? Zion? Perhaps the problem is both the coaching AND the personnel.

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        • Riverwalk
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          #24436
          Originally posted by Javia View Post

          Consider the source: Becton has a 6 year career and stunk for 5. Has Bozeman ever had a good year? Zion? Perhaps the problem is both the coaching AND the personnel.
          Yes, of course.

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          • Boltnut
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            #24437
            Originally posted by Riverwalk View Post

            You have two different sources on the Chargers explain the biggest problem but I guess you don’t trust the players themselves.

            Becton said the coaching sucked publicly and Charger offensive players told the Patriots defense we got out coached.

            Listen to the Charger players. Don’t take my word for what was self evident.
            Your 2 Chargers' "sources" are Mekhi Becton and Robert Spillane...? LOL!

            The Big Lazy is probably just hoping someone will ignore his historically bad 35.3 pff grade and hand him another $12m next year. But not me... I'm cutting his lazy ass and spending that money on a real OG.

            Maybe Spillane is still butt-hurt after Roman's run offense gouged the 2024 Raiders for 313 rushing yards and 56 points. Who are these Chargers players he claimed to talk to after the playoff loss...? Is one of them the Big Lazy...? I know Spillane lined up right in front of him on a blitz... and Becton let him run right past him un-touched.

            Me....? I'm gonna trust my eyes... and the eyes of everyone here at TPB. The OL players sucked. I'm going to predict that Harbaugh/Hortiz won't go with that same OL next year. I predict that almost all of this year's starters won't be on the roster. Which of these OL players do you predict will be back next year: Austin Decalus, Bobby Hart, Trevor Penning, Jamaree Salyer, Mekhi Becton, Bradley Bozeman, Andre James, Zion Johnson...?

            I have one of them (Bozeman) as a backup. And would jump up-and-down if he were cut and a better back-up were signed.
            Protect the QB
            Run the ball
            Play great defense

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            • Bolt4Knob
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              #24438
              Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post
              I think the focus will be similar to last year and the year before, focus on internal guys, then spread the wealth in FA with budget friendly deals...Last year when I told you guys what Hortiz was going to do, some people got upset and pointed out how much cap space we had and all that sort of thing...

              I will post it again and I'm sure those folks will not like to hear it once again...in my defense there's an established track record AND Hortiz already said in the presser that his primary focus will be to retain our internal guys before looking at anything else and it makes sense, you don't want your guys to hit the market...they might pursue one high priced free agent to replace Bozeman...

              I'm not 100% sure that they will automatically cut Becton. I wonder if the new OC and O-line coaches might be allowed to decide whether or not Becton stays or goes...

              It's not going to be sexy and it's not going to be splashy but Hortiz is going to load up on depth again, one MAYBE two positions on O-line will be addressed in the free agency and probably both in the draft, O-line will be a focus for sure, how much remains to be seen but if I've learned anything from watching how Hortiz works in his short time with the Chargers he attacks positions in bunches and I think O-line is going to get a big infusion of young blood in this coming draft...

              other areas where the draft will hit will include improving depth at TE and Edge

              Our internal free agents will eat up a big chunk of our cap, Oweh, Zion, and Tart come to mind...maybe they work on a Tuli extension right before the 2026 season starts?
              I think this will be the plan of Hortiz . Like you said, bring back Oweh and Tartt, extend Tuli. I am not as sold on Zion - but the options at OG might be limited and he would be more cost-effective than say David Edwards. Though, per PFF, Edwards is 19 and Zion is 51. But maybe with a better Center and OL coach- he will continue to improve as both Hortiz and Harbaugh like Zion

              If they do keep Zion and his cap hit is like $6-8m - -than I would see about trying to upgrade the defense, and that would be maybe LB like Chanel to add to Daiyan.

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              • Leslie Grossman
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                #24439
                Chargers did not have a first round pick from 94 through 97. Nothing to do with Leaf. Maybe that was Alex Spanos being a cheap ass?
                Beathard was great his first 4 years, exactly like AJ Smith.
                Then poof their luck ran out. We will never know what John Butler could have accomplished.

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                • jamrock
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                  #24440

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                  • Factotum
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                    #24441
                    Originally posted by jamrock View Post
                    This is a head scratcher for me that in the Roman and by association Jim Harbaugh, they tried to convert stampeding plodding elephants into FBs! True that Newtonian Law says F = M x A but A stands for Acceleration, not a bit fat slow arse!

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                    • jaguarmanftype
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                      #24442
                      Originally posted by jamrock View Post
                      Why am I not shocked? What have I been saying about bringing him back while he was still on their PS? I still can't believe they brought in Devlin to be OL coach, I just cannot for the life of me fathom that decision.

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                      • Jack Burton
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                        #24443
                        Originally posted by Boltnut View Post
                        My Roster after re-signs, new free agent signs, and draft picks.

                        QB: Herbert, Uiagalelei
                        RB: Hampton, Vidal, Patterson
                        FB: Matlock
                        TE: Fisk, Dissley, Eli Stowers (3rd), Gadsden
                        OT: Slater, Alt, Savion Washington
                        OG: Edwards, Brian Parker (2nd), Cleveland
                        OC: McGovern, Bozeman
                        WR: QJ, McConkey, Harris, KLS, Delavon Campbell, DD

                        DT: Tart, Hand, Caldwell, Tim Keenan (4th), Eboigbe, (Matlock serves as a 6th DT)
                        EDGE: Tuli, Oweh, TJ Parker (1st), Kennard, Dupree
                        LB: Henly, Colson, Wax, Scooby Williams (6th), Dye
                        CB: Jackson, Hart, Still, St.Juste, Leonard, Nikko Reed
                        S: Derwin, Molden, RJ Mickens, Eric Rogers, Kendall Williamson

                        K: Dicker
                        P: Scott
                        LS: Harris

                        53-man roster with $31.4m in cap space to sign draftees, PS, and in-season free agents.
                        Obviously, there sone positions that could be upgraded (P, LS, OG, OT, S, RB, WR...) but there is about $10-15m to do that... especially structuring those free agents' first years.
                        So you love my mock draft…; )

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                        • Bolt4Knob
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                          #24444
                          Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post

                          So you love my mock draft…; )
                          So you are keeping both Dissly and Bozeman? And Dupree too. Thats like 12m of cap space. Bozeman is not worth $6m in cash to be the back up - are you having him reduce his salary? Of the three, I would keep Dissly over the other two.

                          I kind of want to move on from Matlock and Fisk at this point. They are too lumbering. If the Chargers want to have a FB - they need an Ingold or Juscyzk type who can move and have some ability with the ball in his hands.
                          I am probably also moving on from Deius Davis - hes not good.

                          As for your mock - it is why I want to move back and get more picks in Rounds 2-5 even if that means out of the first round altogether. Chargers need youth at
                          OG
                          C
                          OT
                          Edge - a Khalil type edge, setting the Edge or DE
                          DT
                          LB
                          CB

                          Give me draft picks!

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