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  • 21&500
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    #2905
    Originally posted by CanadianBoltFan View Post

    Well by that logic, why isnt it too early for Jesse Minter? Minter has completely turned around the weakest part of this team the last few years in the first few games. I mean this defense was bottom of the NFL bad under Staley.

    Yes there have been some changes on offense but you have Justin Herbert. Losing weapons hasnt stopped Josh Allen or the Buiffalo offense. Allen and Joe Brady are adjusting well.
    Sorry, need to jump in, waiting on coffee....
    Minter has been impressive but are you ready to crown him the next bill belichick?
    So far I'd say he's exceeded expectations, so in comparison, no Roman has not exceeded expectations.
    But let's also not crown Minter too early, using the same logic:
    He doesn't have a Herbert talent on defense perhaps but there's not an equitable position on defense to QB
    He lost 1 elite player to injury in Bosa and has.been.able to stop juggernauts like a fields-led Steelers offense (kinda, not enough of course) and KC with their best WR by far going down to injury in quarter 1.
    oh and they couldn't stop Kelce either despite his slowest start to the a season. He lost James that game but really, his impact specifically could just as easily been a net negative with just 1 penalty.
    the only 2 wins were against the other juggernauts in the week 1 Raiders and scary Carolina Panthers.
    So as much as I'd like to crown Minter, I think it still wise to wait for a bigger body of work.
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    • wu-dai clan
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      #2906
      GRo said it would take a few weeks for the OL to settle in, before the season started. Lack of health will surely further delay the process.

      Try anger management.
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      • 21&500
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        #2907
        Did I miss something? Are the bills facing the same challenges?
        Allen has a high ankle sprain?
        Joe Brady new to Buffalo?
        What about Beane the GM, his first offseason building depth from one style of offense to the complete opposite?
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        • 21&500
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          #2908
          Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
          GRo said it would take a few weeks for the OL to settle in, before the season started. Lack of health will surely further delay the process.

          Try anger management.
          All it did was piss me off.
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          • dmac_bolt
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            #2909
            Originally posted by SAY OW 55 View Post
            I will say Jayden Daniels is the Magic Johnson of the NFL kodack smile. Funny Magic owns Washington.

            but when I say Magic he’s a culture changer. Changes the whole culture. They enjoy playing with him. But he just glides out there. But he has that Lamar Jackson effect. But he’s accurate as fuck.

            I’ve never seen a guy like this. I saw it at LSU.

            Chicago is going to kick theirselves. Washington got a superstar. Don’t be surprised if you see a Washington Kansas City Super Bowl soon. Vs. Mahomes.

            people like Minnesota but that looks like the best team in the NFC to me. Only challenge will be keeping him healthy that small frame. But 6,6” with that arm.

            local kid from Pasadena. Great kid.

            Antonio Pierce thinking if only I could trade up for him.
            Yep. Tape was telling me that Jayden was the best in class. time will tell … I thought Nix would be good and was more “ready” and he’s not shown that yet.
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            • Boltnut
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              #2910
              Originally posted by Maniaque 6 View Post

              Is it a little bit early to say that of Roman ?
              Not for those that had already determined him to be bad... way before training camp even started...
              What we are experiencing right now is simple confirmation bias.
              It will blow over once the OL gets healthy... once Herbert becomes comfortable with his WR's and TE's.
              Many times, these guys are open... Herbert needs to do a better job of seeing the whole field... in this scheme.

              Quietly, McConkey has earned an 80.2 grade from PFF. Quietly, QJ has shown much improvement in 2024 (68 pff).
              The bookend OT's are set for years to come. The IOL are on short contracts. Prove-it... or get replaced.

              It's much easier to replace IOL... via FA or mid-round draft picks. Connor Williams would be a nice FA replacement if Bozeman doesn't live up to expectations. Pipkins could be replaced via the draft if he doesn't produce at guard. Zion Johnson has quietly earned a 70.6 grade from PFF. He's a better run-blocker at this point... a pretty good fit for this scheme.

              The roster underwent major turnover this off-season. The cap situation mandated that we get rid of over-paid, aging/oft-injured players. Draft well and don't over-pay for FA's. Re-sign the FA's that produce... move on from those that don't produce. Fulton, Perryman, Ford, and Dobbins have earned consideration as re-signs. So far, Bozeman, Edwards, and Hurst haven't.

              It's an 18-week season. We were competing against very good teams (Steelers/Chiefs) despite injuries at critical positions (OT/QB/DE)... not to mention DJ's suspension. There is no need to be in Freak-out Mode after Week 4.
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              • CanadianBoltFan
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                #2911
                Originally posted by 21&500 View Post

                Sorry, need to jump in, waiting on coffee....
                Minter has been impressive but are you ready to crown him the next bill belichick?
                So far I'd say he's exceeded expectations, so in comparison, no Roman has not exceeded expectations.
                But let's also not crown Minter too early, using the same logic:
                He doesn't have a Herbert talent on defense perhaps but there's not an equitable position on defense to QB
                He lost 1 elite player to injury in Bosa and has.been.able to stop juggernauts like a fields-led Steelers offense (kinda, not enough of course) and KC with their best WR by far going down to injury in quarter 1.
                oh and they couldn't stop Kelce either despite his slowest start to the a season. He lost James that game but really, his impact specifically could just as easily been a net negative with just 1 penalty.
                the only 2 wins were against the other juggernauts in the week 1 Raiders and scary Carolina Panthers.
                So as much as I'd like to crown Minter, I think it still wise to wait for a bigger body of work.
                Coffee smells done.
                Good morning! Enjoy that coffee

                My point wasnt to crown Minter at all. I am just sayimg he is coaching a competent unit in 4 games that is showing significant improvement....Roman isnt...he has neutered Herbert into a bottom of the league QB so far...and his offence siezes up and cant score a point in the 2nd half of the last 2 winnable games.

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                • Boltnut
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                  #2912
                  Originally posted by 21&500 View Post
                  Did I miss something? Are the bills facing the same challenges?
                  Allen has a high ankle sprain?
                  Joe Brady new to Buffalo?
                  What about Beane the GM, his first offseason building depth from one style of offense to the complete opposite?
                  The Bills have 3 wins vs some of the NFL's worst defenses (Cards, Dolphins, and Jaguars).
                  They got blown out vs. the Ravens.
                  They let Stefon Diggs walk. Their WR's are: Khalil Shakir, Keon Coleman, and Mack Hollins.
                  IIRC, Allen has an injury to his non-throwing elbow... not a high-ankle injury.
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                  • CanadianBoltFan
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                    #2913
                    Originally posted by Boltnut View Post

                    The Bills have 3 wins vs some of the NFL's worst defenses (Cards, Dolphins, and Jaguars).
                    They got blown out vs. the Ravens.
                    They let Stefon Diggs walk. Their WR's are: Khalil Shakir, Keon Coleman, and Mack Hollins.
                    IIRC, Allen has an injury to his non-throwing elbow... not a high-ankle injury.
                    So you agree, thier WRs are worse than the Chargers...yet their offense is functional. Gabe Davis is also gone. That is Allens top 2 targets last year

                    I have to say I cant buy into the constant injury excuse anymore. Yes it sucks and I hate the injuries the Chargers get but it is life in the NFL. Every team in ths league will be hit by many injuries this year and will have to deal with them. The Chiefs have lost their best 2 weapons for the SEASON. Chargers have no season ending injuries.

                    Not a single offensive line will play with their 5 starters all year. Several teams have multiple starters out on the o line.

                    As for Herbert we might as well get used to it. The guy is never healthy anymore. 3 seasons and counting. If that ankle doesnt allow him to play effectively than sit him, get him healthy and game plan with Heinike for a game or two and get him moving out the of the pocket you cant protect. But dont trot out excuses. Its old...and the NFL world doesnt care
                    Last edited by CanadianBoltFan; 10-05-2024, 07:23 AM.

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                    • CanadianBoltFan
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                      #2914
                      Originally posted by Boltnut View Post

                      Not for those that had already determined him to be bad... way before training camp even started...
                      What we are experiencing right now is simple confirmation bias.
                      It will blow over once the OL gets healthy... once Herbert becomes comfortable with his WR's and TE's.
                      Many times, these guys are open... Herbert needs to do a better job of seeing the whole field... in this scheme.

                      Quietly, McConkey has earned an 80.2 grade from PFF. Quietly, QJ has shown much improvement in 2024 (68 pff).
                      The bookend OT's are set for years to come. The IOL are on short contracts. Prove-it... or get replaced.

                      It's much easier to replace IOL... via FA or mid-round draft picks. Connor Williams would be a nice FA replacement if Bozeman doesn't live up to expectations. Pipkins could be replaced via the draft if he doesn't produce at guard. Zion Johnson has quietly earned a 70.6 grade from PFF. He's a better run-blocker at this point... a pretty good fit for this scheme.

                      The roster underwent major turnover this off-season. The cap situation mandated that we get rid of over-paid, aging/oft-injured players. Draft well and don't over-pay for FA's. Re-sign the FA's that produce... move on from those that don't produce. Fulton, Perryman, Ford, and Dobbins have earned consideration as re-signs. So far, Bozeman, Edwards, and Hurst haven't.

                      It's an 18-week season. We were competing against very good teams (Steelers/Chiefs) despite injuries at critical positions (OT/QB/DE)... not to mention DJ's suspension. There is no need to be in Freak-out Mode after Week 4.
                      Thats a really good post Boltnut. Some valid points. Full marks for the work of Joe Hortiz with the roster/budget so far. Full marks for the work of Minter. Jury very much out on Roman.
                      Harbaugh a good leader and like the culture, though expect better game management than we saw last week and less penalties woud be nice.

                      I am not actually freaking out. But as Harbaugh has been given the keys to the city and a truckload of money I have higher expectations than the same mediocrity on the actual field we are used to..and probably less patience with this team than I would have had years ago. 11 straight home losses to the Chiefs in many winnable games is getting to be a bit much.

                      Herbert has been the main thing worth watching on this team the last 4 years, not loving the early returns on Herbert in this system. I knew they would run the ball but i didnt expect a bottom of the NFL passing game with Herbert that cant score a point when the run game is stuffed by a good defence.

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                      • 21&500
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                        #2915
                        Originally posted by CanadianBoltFan View Post

                        Good morning! Enjoy that coffee

                        My point wasnt to crown Minter at all. I am just sayimg he is coaching a competent unit in 4 games that is showing significant improvement....Roman isnt...he has neutered Herbert into a bottom of the league QB so far...and his offence siezes up and cant score a point in the 2nd half of the last 2 winnable games.
                        I honestly don't know if you're being genuine or not, there are multiple factors at play that make up, "Roman's offense" which is kind of the point of engaging in a fan forum, but you continue to disregard multiple factors as insignificant or avoid addressing them at all.
                        Re: your stance on injuries: Are you of the opinion our offense isn't significantly more productive vs say KC with Slater and Alt starting instead of dumb and dumber?
                        and Herbert's injury didn't affect his ability to move and play QB at all or significantly?
                        Why have you pin pointed Roman as being the culprit? Some vague similarities to struggles in the past?
                        Just because LJ couldn't continue his MVP success he had with Roman in 2019 that means something?
                        I think you're being unfair in assessing Roman by avoiding obvious and difficult barriers by comparing them to other teams in different circumstances.
                        Now wts, are there red flags? Absolutely! I almost haven't been able to get to those because I'm so distracted by having to argue for the obvious (my fault 🙃)
                        Your stance may prove to be valid by years end, but prematurely at this point.
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                        • Boltjolt
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                          #2916
                          Originally posted by 21&500 View Post

                          Sorry, need to jump in, waiting on coffee....
                          Minter has been impressive but are you ready to crown him the next bill belichick?
                          So far I'd say he's exceeded expectations, so in comparison, no Roman has not exceeded expectations.
                          But let's also not crown Minter too early, using the same logic:
                          He doesn't have a Herbert talent on defense perhaps but there's not an equitable position on defense to QB
                          He lost 1 elite player to injury in Bosa and has.been.able to stop juggernauts like a fields-led Steelers offense (kinda, not enough of course) and KC with their best WR by far going down to injury in quarter 1.
                          oh and they couldn't stop Kelce either despite his slowest start to the a season. He lost James that game but really, his impact specifically could just as easily been a net negative with just 1 penalty.
                          the only 2 wins were against the other juggernauts in the week 1 Raiders and scary Carolina Panthers.
                          So as much as I'd like to crown Minter, I think it still wise to wait for a bigger body of work.
                          Coffee smells done.
                          Not to mention Harbaugh said very early the defense is ahead of the offense from the get go. This just shows how awful Staley was with his defense and it didnt get better. The Offense will get better.

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