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  • WindsorUK
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    What is the Raiders status for Vegas? Is it a done deal? And if the league wants a team in SD, would the powers to be prefer Davis bringing his team here?

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      Originally posted by WindsorUK View Post
      What is the Raiders status for Vegas? Is it a done deal? And if the league wants a team in SD, would the powers to be prefer Davis bringing his team here?
      Vegas has already approved funding for a stadium, I find it unlikely the NFL would forgo a solid offer to wrangle with this city's political climate.

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      • KNSD
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        Originally posted by WindsorUK View Post
        KNSD, in your thoughts, is Spanos doing this to block Davis from LA? Was it not Davis's option had Spanos turned it down?
        The best place for the Chargers to be is San Diego but Spanos is afraid if the Raiders comeback to SoCal, it eats into his market share?
        Nah, IMO they want a certain level of a deal. If they're not getting it in San Diego, then they're gone to LA. Raiders don't really matter in this equation. They were eliminated from the discussion when Chargers got preference over them for LA in January of last year.

        o They didn't get it in 2015, so they went all-in in LA. (Terms were set by Chargers in letter to CSAG)
        o They knew they weren't going to get those terms from city in 2016. So they put forward Measure C. (Fabiani said they'd do this in October 2015.)
        o C didn't pass, so the next option is to extort the NFL. (AJ Smith called it in the radio interview earlier this year. And SDFan called this over a year ago. )
        o If the extortion attempt doesn't work, they'll go to LA. (We're now at the end game, thank goodness)

        So, the Chargers are fighting against both the city and the NFL, and therefore the only way they keep leverage against both is to take the LA option right now. City is done. It's the NFL's move now.

        Or, this is all NFL-created fake drama, and the NFL has known it's going to cave at the last second for at least a year. Whatever.
        Last edited by KNSD; 01-12-2017, 06:03 AM.
        Prediction:
        Correct: Chargers CI fails miserably.
        Fail: Team stays in San Diego until their lease runs out in 2020. (without getting new deal done by then) .
        Sig Bet WIN: The Chargers will file for relocation on January 15.

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        • bonehead
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          Originally posted by WindsorUK View Post
          KNSD, in your thoughts, is Spanos doing this to block Davis from LA? Was it not Davis's option had Spanos turned it down?
          The best place for the Chargers to be is San Diego but Spanos is afraid if the Raiders comeback to SoCal, it eats into his market share?
          By waiting two more days to sign the extension does that block Davis from SD ?
          Forget it Donny you're out of your element

          Shut the fuck up Donny

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          • foreigner
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            • Are you "dawgturd" on PFT by any chance? :lol:

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              • bonehead
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                I am dawgturd!
                Forget it Donny you're out of your element

                Shut the fuck up Donny

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                • ghost
                  The Rise of Kellen Moore
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                  I guess I knew this day was coming. I feel devastated for all the Chargers season ticket holders over the years. But I knew Dean Spanos couldn't make a correct decision to save his life, and this is just another in a long series of missteps by that bumbling idiot. He can't even get the Powder Blue throwback jerseys right.

                  The league office vowed that they would 'get this right'. This sure all hell doesn't feel like right, and it sure as hell doesn't feel like Dean is working with the league office on this.

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                  • Boltergeist
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                    Fuckity fucking fuck fuck!

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                    • Wheels
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                      Originally posted by KNSD View Post
                      Nah, IMO they want a certain level of a deal. If they're not getting it in San Diego, then they're gone to LA. Raiders don't really matter in this equation. They were eliminated from the discussion when Chargers got preference over them for LA in January of last year.

                      o They didn't get it in 2015, so they went all-in in LA. (Terms were set by Chargers in letter to CSAG)
                      o They knew they weren't going to get those terms from city in 2016. So they put forward Measure C. (Fabiani said they'd do this in October 2015.)
                      o C didn't pass, so the next option is to extort the NFL. (AJ Smith called it in the radio interview earlier this year. And SDFan called this over a year ago. )
                      o If the extortion attempt doesn't work, they'll go to LA. (We're now at the end game, thank goodness)

                      So, the Chargers are fighting against both the city and the NFL, and therefore the only way they keep leverage against both is to take the LA option right now. City is done. It's the NFL's move now.

                      Or, this is all NFL-created fake drama, and the NFL has known it's going to cave at the last second for at least a year. Whatever.
                      I disagree that the Raiders are not a factor. IMO, Dean had to take the LA option, so that he can force the Raiders to seek relocation approval in March. The fear of the Raiders outflanking them in either LA or SD has been a huge factor. I'm even more convinced of this now after seeing the lack of buzz in LA media regarding the Chargers intentions, and the unambiguous Plaschke editorial.

                      IMO, this is Dean right now.

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                      • TTK
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                        • SDFan
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                          Originally posted by WindsorUK View Post
                          You may be correct but the ultimate losers here are San Diegans.
                          With no major tenant to support it, a major stadium will NEVER be built in SD.
                          No Super Bowls( which are GREAT fun), no Bowl games, no major concert tours, no monster truck rallies( again, GREAT fun), no other large sporting events....NOTHING!
                          Outside of the Die Hard fans, most San Diegans appear content with living in a smaller, less eventful place than the major city San Diego could be( and coming from someone who has lived in L.A., Hong Kong, and London, SD is no major city)
                          Shame.
                          Petco Park is already hosting major concert tours, Monster trucks, Supercross, soccer and more.
                          Life is too short to drink cheap beer :beer:

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