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  • Fouts2herbert
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    Originally posted by PhilaBoltster View Post
    I don’t think Huntley is going to sign with a team to be 3rd string unless he has no other offers.
    And I would be surprised if the Chargers care enough to roster a 3rd QB at this point.
    Their is a comfort zone in knowing the offense that the team will be running, I have to imagine that will appeal to him if he decides to come over...
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    • dmac_bolt
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      Originally posted by Lone Bolt View Post
      Look...Im glad you guys got your new QB2...if for no other reason, than you will all stop crying about it...

      And I trust Jim n Joe...they felt a move was needed...

      And every other move they made, and their overall approach has me grinning ear to ear...

      BUT....why is everyone acting like Heineke is a master stroke, and QB depth savior?

      Both him and Stick played 5 games last year.

      Stick completion percentage was 63.8, Heineke 54.4
      Stick was 3/1 TD/Int, Heineke 5/4
      Stick rating was 85.6, Heineke was 74.7

      Stick did take 14 sks to Heineke 8
      Both averaged 6.5 yds/att

      Both guys fair runners

      Heineke had some OK years in Washington...but big issue taking care of the ball, even if he is the better arm talent.

      Heineke didnt wow this preseason, either.

      Where again is this huge upgrade? This is what everyone was clamoring for?

      Well...I like 99 out of every 100 moves this new regime has made...thats good enough for me, lol
      You should add fumbles to your stat list if you want to talk about protecting the ball. It flips your hypothesis about ball security. I’d recommend forget stats and look at the tape.

      Heineke is a better QB, more experienced and able to come into a game in an emergency. it’s visible on tape. He’s not an elite starting QB. He’s an upgrade, thats all. You gotta learn to trust your eyes to scout players vs relying solely on numeric tables to tell you everything.
      “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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      • dmac_bolt
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        Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post

        the rule as far as I know is 3 week minimum on the 53 man roster, but since he's still coming back from a 2023 injury, my guess is that they burn that second "will return shortly" IR spot on him while he finishes his recovery and ramps up on the new offense etc...so JT woods was most likely the Molden cut, tomorrow we'll find out what they do to squeeze Heineke onto the roster...GAC and some article on NBC suggested that they plan to keep stick on the 53 man roster

        ...someone said that the reason is stick can help Heineke learn the offense, LOL, it really didn't seem like Easton had a grasp on the offense this preseason, WOW and people still believe that John Spanos is not back there pulling strings? LOL

        on a side note, Stick will get his full 2.6 mil salary fully guaranteed if he's still on the roster by week one, so even if he goes to the PS after that he'd still get his full pay, wow, must be nice to get scouted by John Spanos...there is no way that under any NORMAL circumstance that the team would pay him a cent more than PS minimum to stick around assuming that he would be kept around at all in those types of circumstances...mind you he already got his bonus and BTW when he signed they gave him 1.4mil out of his 2.6 contract value guaranteed, why? IDK, that's a sweet deal and not something that you see on a low level signing for a player that has no market or leverage...still tho, if they cut him tomorrow it would save the chargers 1.25mil in cap space, that's not nothing, that's money that could be used to sign someone else...
        Anything Stick can teach him, and I agree with you not much, he can teach from the PS. I think they may keep Stick on the 53 for the first game, possibly as long as first 3, then waived/resigned to PS. Just to let Taylor transition into the team.
        “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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        • Lone Bolt
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          Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

          You should add fumbles to your stat list if you want to talk about protecting the ball. It flips your hypothesis about ball security. I’d recommend forget stats and look at the tape.

          Heineke is a better QB, more experienced and able to come into a game in an emergency. it’s visible on tape. He’s not an elite starting QB. He’s an upgrade, thats all. You gotta learn to trust your eyes to scout players vs relying solely on numeric tables to tell you everything.
          Check the fumbles too...numbers are close, as I remember...

          But Im putting this to bed...got no complaints, Joe is the man...just not starstruck or overly excited...not at all worried, either...

          Most of my motivation for debate was the absolute vitriol some on here have for Stick...its crazy how people on here seem to NEED a target to tar n feather...and then the crazy ticker tape parade Heineke got...you would have thought Brady came out of retirement, lol...

          In the end, Im done poking you guys...glad it makes you all feel better...Ive been feeling great, and not at all worried, since we hired Jim....

          Lone Bolt's Final Mock

          Tyler Booker G, Josaiah Stewart Edge, Cam Skattebo RB, Mitchell Evans TE, Jamaree Caldwell NT, Isaac TeSlaa WR, Ahmed Hassanein DE, Craig Woodson S, Eli Cox C, Kalel Mullings RB

          Sleeper day 3 pick: Tahj Brooks RB Texas Tech

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          • dmac_bolt
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            Originally posted by Lone Bolt View Post

            Check the fumbles too...numbers are close, as I remember...

            But Im putting this to bed...got no complaints, Joe is the man...just not starstruck or overly excited...not at all worried, either...

            Most of my motivation for debate was the absolute vitriol some on here have for Stick...its crazy how people on here seem to NEED a target to tar n feather...and then the crazy ticker tape parade Heineke got...you would have thought Brady came out of retirement, lol...

            In the end, Im done poking you guys...glad it makes you all feel better...Ive been feeling great, and not at all worried, since we hired Jim....
            Stick lost 5 fumbles, so no - not close.

            Trader Joe is The Man, agree, and no reason this comes between us all.
            “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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            • Velo
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              Originally posted by Lone Bolt View Post

              Check the fumbles too...numbers are close, as I remember...

              But Im putting this to bed...got no complaints, Joe is the man...just not starstruck or overly excited...not at all worried, either...

              Most of my motivation for debate was the absolute vitriol some on here have for Stick...its crazy how people on here seem to NEED a target to tar n feather...and then the crazy ticker tape parade Heineke got...you would have thought Brady came out of retirement, lol...

              In the end, Im done poking you guys...glad it makes you all feel better...Ive been feeling great, and not at all worried, since we hired Jim....
              Nobody hates Stick. Personally, I was hoping he would pan out as a backup QB, he seems like a very fine young man. But clearly he is not NFL caliber, not even as a backup QB. The sole purpose of any pro sports team is to win, Stick cannot help the Chargers with this purpose so it's best to part ways. That is all. There is nothing personal about it.

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              • Fouts2herbert
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                Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                Anything Stick can teach him, and I agree with you not much, he can teach from the PS. I think they may keep Stick on the 53 for the first game, possibly as long as first 3, then waived/resigned to PS. Just to let Taylor transition into the team.
                well now that Huntley is available, I'd like to see them bounce stick altogether, replace stick with Huntley because as written on your sig, more is more...and with Huntley knowing the offense a LOT better than Easton Stick, it's really a no brainer...
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                • Boltjolt
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                  Originally posted by Velo View Post

                  What's your thinking Boltjolt, that Huntley would be a PS QB or roster him as a third QB? I would prefer not to roster three, but I'm not making the decisions. I would like to release Stick altogether though and let him find a new home.
                  IDK...depends on how much Hortiz likes him. Is Stick going to be on the PS? Id just cut Stick and sign Huntley who knows the system though he may be a bit rusty after being out of it. Still ahead of Heinicke in it. Like riding a bike.
                  1. Mason Taylor TE LSU
                  2. Quinshon Judkins RB Ohio st
                  3. Kyle Kennard Edge So. Carolina

                  4. CJ West DT Indiana
                  5. Don'te Thornton WR Tennessee
                  6. Zah Frazier CB UTSA
                  6. Jarquez Hunter RB Auburn
                  6. Jay Higgins LB Iowa
                  6. Hunter Wohler S Wisconsin
                  7. Carson Vinson OT Alabama

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                  • Fouts2herbert
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                    Originally posted by Lone Bolt View Post

                    Check the fumbles too...numbers are close, as I remember...

                    But Im putting this to bed...got no complaints, Joe is the man...just not starstruck or overly excited...not at all worried, either...

                    Most of my motivation for debate was the absolute vitriol some on here have for Stick...its crazy how people on here seem to NEED a target to tar n feather...and then the crazy ticker tape parade Heineke got...you would have thought Brady came out of retirement, lol...

                    In the end, Im done poking you guys...glad it makes you all feel better...Ive been feeling great, and not at all worried, since we hired Jim....
                    throw out all the numbers you want, Heinicke has 4 legit 4rth quarter comeback game winning drives notched on his belt in the NFL and he came close another 3-4 times, it's absurd to compare Easton Stick to Heinicke based on select stats...they are not even in the same class of player and it's not even close...
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                    • Velo
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                      Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
                      Id just cut Stick and sign Huntley who knows the system though he may be a bit rusty after being out of it. Still ahead of Heinicke in it.
                      Yep. Agreed.

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                      • Fouts2herbert
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                        Originally posted by Velo View Post
                        Yep. Agreed.
                        more is more, bring Huntley in too...
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                        • 21&500
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                          Huntley may choose to go back to the Ravens,
                          their backup qbs are as bad as Stick.
                          Najee & Omarion / Thunder & Thunder

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