Chiefs @ Chargers Game Day Thread [Wk 4] | Post Game Discussion

[DerwinBosa]

How about we stop whining about injuries? Something that all teams are dealing with.

BTW the Rams have done something the Chargers dont, they beat a playoff calibre team.

Yeah, who are dealing with a lot of injuries. The 49ers have beaten the Jets and Patriots and got their asses handed to them by the Vikings and lost to the Rams, who couldn't beat a shitty Bears team today. The 49ers are a playoff caliber team at 2-2 right now?

[electricgold]

Well it won't be this year. Minus DJ Chark coming back, this is all we've got.

Broncos game will be ugly. Their defense is stout and will sell out to stop the run. I'm sure our defense will keep their rookie QB in check but I don't trust the offense to do anything meaningful late in the game when it matters.

Hell, maybe we tie!

We'll have our two OT's back and DJ Chark could make a difference!

[jamrock]

Oh, the personal attack bullshit claim you make after I was told I was playing the victim and needed to put down the pipe. Get a grip. It's back-and-forth banter after a tough loss.

There are a number of factors in play besides all of the injuries. We have a new coaching staff we're getting used to. As much as you and others may not like it, we're not going to be the Air Coryell or Norv Turner Chargers under this coaching staff. We hired Harbaugh to be a tougher, more physical team that controls the clock and wins the line of scrimmage. We controlled the line of scrimmage defensively for a good amount of the game today, which played a huge part of us holding the Chiefs to 17 points. We didn't do it offensively. Not having Alt or Slater, and starting a practice squad player at right guard, will play a huge reason for us not being able to do that, especially when the defense we went up against is led by a future Hall of Famer in Chris Jones. That is reality. Not fantasy. It's also reality that we have a bye at a good time next week and have 13 games after that. Losing today under the circumstances we were in was not the end of the world.

It wasn't me who said you were playing the victims. I just think you're making excuses and speculating on things that can never be proven one way or another.

they hired Jim Harbaugh to win. I'm sure the Spanos and no one here cares how they win. Just win Jim.

I will agree that the bye week couldn't come at a better time

[CanadianBoltFan]

Dude, have you seen our oline for the last couple of seasons! Give Herbert a good oline and he's as good as any QB in the league! Harbaugh knows it and I'm sure he will continue to build our oline going forward!Justin also needs some weapons!

Look I love Herbert and I know all the circumstances, he has had some things stacked against him, but in league wide circles his stock is dropping.... not as a good QB but as one who is considered "elite". The excuses are wearing thin, nationally.

We all talk that Hebert lost his weapons this year. Well so did Josh Allen and look at the stuff he pulls off. I used to argue that Herbert was better than Allen but I objectively cannot anymore. Not only has Allen won big games, playoff games, he regularily puts his team on his back and makes shit happen, makes dynamic plays....he wills his team to wins.

Herbert is a gamer, he is tough, talented...a good QB....but his results have removed him form the elite category with most...at least for the time being.

[Velo]

I just watched the highlights of the Pitt-Indy game. Joe Flacco had to come in for Richardson. The Colts' OL protected Flacco very well for most of the game, and Flacco picked apart Pitt's defense. He had a clean pocket most of the time. Completely different from what Pitt was doing to Herbert the previous week.

[Boltx]

Look I love Herbert and I know all the circumstances, he has had some things stacked against him, but in league wide circles his stock is dropping.... not as a good QB but as one who is considered "elite". The excuses are wearing thin, nationally.

We all talk that Hebert lost his weapons this year. Well so did Josh Allen and look at the stuff he pulls off. I used to argue that Herbert was better than Allen but I objectively cannot anymore. Not only has Allen won big games, playoff games, he regularily puts his team on his back and makes shit happen, makes dynamic plays....he wills his team to wins.

Herbert is a gamer, he is tough, talented...a good QB....but his results have removed him form the elite category with most...at least for the time being.

You'll get flak for this, but this is fair.

Herbert is not elite. No way. He is a good QB that we hope can be better. Let's just say if he were to turn into prime Alex Smith...it would be an improvement.

[DerwinBosa]

It wasn't me who said you were playing the victims. I just think you're making excuses and speculating on things that can never be proven one way or another.

they hired Jim Harbaugh to win. I'm sure the Spanos and no one here cares how they win. Just win Jim.

I will agree that the bye week couldn't come at a better time

I didn't say you did. I was just pointing how I could have pointed out how that, and your put down the pipe comment, could be considered a personal attack if I wanted to actually play victim the way you are.

And people do care about how we win, considering there were plenty on here complaining about how we didn't put up enough passing yards against the Raiders.

[jamrock]

I didn't say you did. I was just pointing how I could have pointed out how that, and your put down the pipe comment, could be considered a personal attack if I wanted to actually play victim the way you are.

And people do care about how we win, considering there were plenty on here complaining about how we didn't put up enough passing yards against the Raiders.

People care about how they play. If they win, there are far less complaints but still concerns. Those concerns have been shown to be warranted

[CanadianBoltFan]

Oh, the personal attack bullshit claim you make after I was told I was playing the victim and needed to put down the pipe. Get a grip. It's back-and-forth banter after a tough loss.

There are a number of factors in play besides all of the injuries. We have a new coaching staff we're getting used to. As much as you and others may not like it, we're not going to be the Air Coryell or Norv Turner Chargers under this coaching staff. We hired Harbaugh to be a tougher, more physical team that controls the clock and wins the line of scrimmage. We controlled the line of scrimmage defensively for a good amount of the game today, which played a huge part of us holding the Chiefs to 17 points. We didn't do it offensively. Not having Alt or Slater, and starting a practice squad player at right guard, will play a huge reason for us not being able to do that, especially when the defense we went up against is led by a future Hall of Famer in Chris Jones. That is reality. Not fantasy. It's also reality that we have a bye at a good time next week and have 13 games after that. Losing today under the circumstances we were in was not the end of the world.

I dont expect to be Air Coryell but I watch this game for entertainment and I wouldnt mind watching a 2024 NFL offense. Jim is going to find that the Michigan thing isnt going to work in this league.

Yes i do miss the days when herbert was setting records and making the Pro Bowl. It was soimething entertaining to follow as the team doesnt make or win playoff games. I realize that is gone with harbaugh regime but some balance would be nice. You have to be able to pass in the NFL.

No one will convince me that Justin bloody Herbert with a top 3 arm in the NFL and elite processing should be LAST in passing yards of all QBs in the NFL FFS. There are some pretty average to weak starting QBs. The 2 good defenses we have played have handled Romans run game easily. Steelers were shutting down Dobbins before Slater injury.

[DerwinBosa]

People care about how they play. If they win, there are far less complaints but still concerns. Those concerns have been shown to be warranted

And when we lose a game 17-10 against the two-time defending Super Bowl champions, after hearing all week that we had no chance, there are going to be those of us who will be encouraged by what we saw, not discouraged to the point that that we won't look for reasonable explanations as to why we're in our current state, which actually isn't that bad. Jim Harbaugh is a proven winner in several stops. It makes no sense to lose faith in him and act like this is Brandon Staley all over again after these past two losses.

[CanadianBoltFan]

You'll get flak for this, but this is fair.

Herbert is not elite. No way. He is a good QB that we hope can be better. Let's just say if he were to turn into prime Alex Smith...it would be an improvement.

Sometimes I just have to take off the Charger colored glasses and be objective from a league wide perspective. We are now in year 5. 1 pro bowl 0 playoff wins. Being called "elite" isnt tosssed around lightly

[jamrock]

And when we lose a game 17-10 against the two-time defending Super Bowl champions, after hearing all week that we had no chance, there are going to be those of us who will be encouraged by what we saw, not discouraged to the point that that we won't look for reasonable explanations as to why we're in our current state, which actually isn't that bad. Jim Harbaugh is a proven winner in several stops. It makes no sense to lose faith in him and act like this is Brandon Staley all over again after these past two losses.

im not interested in moral victories. If you chose to believe anyone who said we had no chance that is up to you. I saw a KC team that had struggled to win its 3 games and was missing its leading rusher. The. They lost their leading receiver. But Hunt played great and Kelce went off and we failed in important situations to make the plays. The play calling was not up to snuff and wasted a solid defensive effort. It was a game we could have won