Chargers Vs Chiefs Game Day Thread (Week 1) | Post-game Discussion

[Geezbolt]

Herbert is the best QB in Chargers History. Period.

I’ll Ride or Die with The Golden God. I would never trade Herbert for either a prime Rivers nor a prime Fouts, not in a million years.

I have seen all of the Bolts' QB's since Jack Kemp. I'm inclined to agree with you about Justin Herbert. He's certainly the most talented.

[Boltnut]

we came close to having both Rashawn and Mike Williams on this roster...

Imagine this offense with Slater back...
I'd rather have Keenan than Mike. Keenan and Ladd will be a problem that DC's will have to figure out quickly.
Spags couldn't figure it out... and he's one of the best defensive minds.

Everybody trashing on Omarion Hampton. But his presense (and potential) was what Spags worried about. They came to stop the running game first... and Roman made them pay. We are now a well-rounded offense. Sometimes we'll rely on the passing game... sometimes we'll rely on the running game. It's nice to know that we have the players to do either.

[21&500]

Is it just me or is the morning a bit brighter and my regular coffee taste a bit better.
I find myself chatting with my neighbors and admiring my kid's finger paintings...
100% natural football high, breath it in fellas!

[Velo]

There was no dropoff from Slater to Alt tonight. Obviously the same can't be said with going from Alt to Pipkins, but how many teams can take their right tackle and replace their All-Pro left tackle and see no dropoff?

Not very many, if any. Such astute drafting to take Alt instead of a WR, then to get Ladd McConkey with your next pick. Awesome.

[Velo]

Herbert’s so smart.

on the Chris Jones play. Chris got so excited he went for the sack. I always tell guys this. I saw Nick Bosa do this. In the Super Bowl. It was with Mahomes. You don’t have to over doo it and go for the sack. And just get aggressive. Frosty Rucker did it in the national championship against Texas and Vince Young.


Always Keep Contain!!!!!!!!!!! When I played defensive end. All I wanted to do was flush the runner allow my teammates to get there. Or flush him to my teammates.

it wasn’t about getting shine. Just stand put your hands up and force him to the sideline. That’s all you have to do. Guys want that shine and freestyle so they can try to get t that glamorous sack to dance. All you gotta do is just force him out keep contain don’t give that field up.

Well it cost KC the game.

It did cost them the game. When you look at that play again and again, you begin to wonder if it was a designed play, Pipkins got out of Jones' way and let him take the inside lane, they knew it was man coverage there would be no defenders on the second level if they could sucker Jones into losing contain. It probably wasn't a designed play, but it worked out so well for the Chargers. Then to see Tranquill getting into it with Jones - that was worth the price of admission.

[powderblueboy]

Not even Harbaugh can save this team

NYBoltFan had a quiet night last night.

Fuck Mahomes, Chargers were able to control the game last night by not giving many opportunities for NYBoltFan to post on the forum.

[Fouts2herbert]

Rivers is #1 in total career stats, for now. he’s actually the second best Charger QB in franchise history behind Herbert - I guess it all depends on what the question is . Compare Rivers or Fouts first 5 years as a starter stats vs Herbert’s first 5 years as a starter and it will become clear.

Fun fact: Herbert already has 2x the rushing yards that Rivers compiled in his entire career
Fun fact: Rivers had 57 INTs his first 5 starting years, Herbert had 45
Fun fact: Rivers had 135 TDs his first 5 starting yrs, Herbert had 137
*note: We have to excuse Rivers for not being able to win the starting job until his 3rd season to even make the numbers remotely close. Otherwise - first 5 vs first 5 would be a total blowout in Herbert’s favor

Everyone already knows Herbert had the most yards of ANY QB IN NFL HISTORY in the first 5 years

now tell me honestly - which Qb had a better supporting offensive roster and coaching his first 5 years? Cmon - be honest. Prime LT, Gates, Caldwell, VJax, etc … cmon! Coach Marty and even Norval vs Lynn and Staley? CMON!!!

I get the total career stats aggregation methodology. I’m telling y’all that methodology is flawed by over-weighting total time on task but you can wait another 5 or more years to admit what I’m telling you today (and I told you last year, and year before):

Herbert is the best QB in Chargers History. Period.

I’ll Ride or Die with The Golden God. I would never trade Herbert for either a prime Rivers nor a prime Fouts, not in a million years.

Herbert will go down as the greatest Charger QB all time, I'm pretty confident about that, but right now Rivers is still #1, Herbert's sample size needs to be about 10 years of what he's doing right now before I crown him, but from a physical ability stand point and maybe even intelligence standpoint he's the best already, but Phillip had more command of football type intelligence and Herbert is getting there but he's been like a Ken Anderson smart, hopefully now the book smarts can begin to translate to dominating the field like a general which Rivers still has over Justin...playing QB is not just about physical attributes which is something that the current generation of QBs will eventually have to learn once they can run as fast to escape a pass rush or get first downs with their legs etc...

[YAC]

I know we are all bored by now with the endless Minter praise...

But good lawd...the Chargers have no real pass rushers at all. Even Mack wasn't making any noise. Yet Minter schemed respectable pressure from loincloth thread last night.

[Velo]

I know we are all bored by now with the endless Minter praise...

But good lawd...the Chargers have no real pass rushers at all. Even Mack wasn't making any noise. Yet Minter schemed respectable pressure from loincloth last night.

Good observation. They are going to have to find away to generate more pass rush though. Tuli may not be what we had hoped after flashing as a rook.

[Velo]

Quentin Johnston is on pace for 1360 yards and 34 TD's.

Yeah, I woke up this morning thinking about this. I was going to post it but you beat me to it. QJ currently leads the league in TD receptions as well. He is 2nd to CeeDee Lamb in YAC with 39 yds.

[powderblueboy]

I got linked to an article somehow from a chiefs site. There were 7 takes on the game, and I found this one the most interesting. He uses words like mediocrity and average to describe us, but he concedes we beat his DL almost all night.

Losers: Chiefs pass rush


We just honored Drue Tranquill's two sacks, but Justin Herbert put up MVP numbers on the night in part because he had enough time to bake a cake when going back to pass. The Chiefs front four couldn't get anything going all night long, and that's saying something in a game like this.
For those paying attention, the Chargers offensive line is not exaclty the gold standard. They were already settling for mediocrity by starting Bradley Bozeman and Zion Johnson inside. Then Rashawn Slater was lost for the season which forced another average player into the lineup in Trey Pipkins. Somehow those players all held their own and gave Herbert all the time in the world to pick the Chiefs' defense apart.

The lack of impact from a unit that's eating up so much cap space and high-level draft investments is very frustrating.

Becton and Alt are good'uns: they were toying all night with whoever they put over them on pass rushes.

Zion had some one on one matchups with Chris Jones, and he faired well: they'd put Chris Jones on his left shoulder and occupied momentarily Bozeman with a possible blitzer.

Pip, they were giving help with a tight end - who would deliver the first blow and then go out in his pattern.
Sometimes, they left Pip alone. He's on the Terrance Steele level of NFL right tackles.

Bozeman was effective and knew were to go last night.

[YAC]

Tuli may not be what we had hoped after flashing as a rook.

I really thought he'd breakout big last season. I'm sure he's going all out. Top pass rushing skill is a rare and precious thing...few have it.