Welcome EDGE Odafe Jayson Oweh

[Fouts2herbert]

Production is production.
Hey sometimes teams miss on a guy and then he shows them he can play and he got paid 4/60

Nobody is going to give Oweh 25 mil for being a inconsistent former first rounder. He was worth trading for a 5th in Baltimores view.who had good DL around him.there..

If he ends up with 10-11 sacks with us , he had a uptick season, but not starting and is a rotational player for us.

He had a good RAS score from his proday, didn't run at the combine. I don't care about RAS scores .....perform on the field and he hasn't had as good a.year as Parsons with all the measures you mentioned. Oweh has performed to being traded for a 5th. It is what it is.

Parsons is game planed for, Oweh is not. Many players drafted high that haven't lived up to it haven't been paid big for being inconsistent. We have a backup QB who can attest to that. Or is his pedigree still a first? We didn't even have to trade for him. He was a FA.

Also Oweh weighed 257 lbs at his proday and I saw Kennard mentioned today as undersized at 254 lbs lol.

I do believe you just made a strong case for why the Chargers shouldn't re-sign Oweh, I thought I was alone in this camp, I like Oweh but his inconsistency gives me pause...also that he didn't make in Baltimore and that he isn't penciled in starter over the 35 year old Mack and a former lower 1/3 2nd round pick with less juice than Oweh as you guys describe it, all of that gives me pause...

might Hortiz who knows him better than any of us and was there for the first three years of his career and also played a part in drafting Oweh, might he not know better how handle Oweh? There is a scenario where Hortiz used that exchange of players and picks only as a one year rental...It's possible that Hortiz's is banking on someone throwing Oweh a bag of money and he'll recoup the trade's value in the 2027 compensatory formula...in that scenario Hortiz knows better than anyone whether the player can be trusted with big extension money or if he can be replaced in the up-coming draft OR let's not forget that this year's free agent class is going to feature Jaelen Philips and Trey Hendrickson amongst others so that could factor into decision...how much money Oweh can command one way or another? either the added competition in free agency will help blow up Oweh's market or will it take money off the table due to competition in the market place?

Right now my instinct tells me Oweh is a rental due to his inconsistency, he takes too many plays off IMO, but of course I will trust in whatever Hortiz decides to do because he knows the guy...it is an attractive notion to think that we are getting close to seeing the edge room that we will have for the next 2 or 3 seasons, Tuli on an extension, Oweh on an extension, Kennard on his rookie deal, and some undrafted stud edge rusher to be determined by the 2026 NFL draft...

there are some nice alternatives out there this offseason so by the same token I can see Hortiz going in a different direction too...

[Riverwalk]

Production is production.
Hey sometimes teams miss on a guy and then he shows them he can play and he got paid 4/60

Nobody is going to give Oweh 25 mil for being a inconsistent former first rounder. He was worth trading for a 5th in Baltimores view.who had good DL around him.there..

If he ends up with 10-11 sacks with us , he had a uptick season, but not starting and is a rotational player for us.

He had a good RAS score from his proday, didn't run at the combine. I don't care about RAS scores .....perform on the field and he hasn't had as good a.year as Parsons with all the measures you mentioned. Oweh has performed to being traded for a 5th. It is what it is.

Parsons is game planed for, Oweh is not. Many players drafted high that haven't lived up to it haven't been paid big for being inconsistent. We have a backup QB who can attest to that. Or is his pedigree still a first? We didn't even have to trade for him. He was a FA.

Also Oweh weighed 257 lbs at his proday and I saw Kennard mentioned today as undersized at 254 lbs lol.

So our benchmark for resigning an edge is only if they are as good as Parsons?

Okay. Good to know. I’ll tell Hortiz to let Oweh and Tuli walk and Mack retire.

[Boltjolt]

I do believe you just made a strong case for why the Chargers shouldn't re-sign Oweh, I thought I was alone in this camp, I like Oweh but his inconsistency gives me pause...also that he didn't make in Baltimore and that he isn't penciled in starter over the 35 year old Mack and a former lower 1/3 2nd round pick with less juice than Oweh as you guys describe it, all of that gives me pause...

might Hortiz who knows him better than any of us and was there for the first three years of his career and also played a part in drafting Oweh, might he not know better how handle Oweh? There is a scenario where Hortiz used that exchange of players and picks only as a one year rental...It's possible that Hortiz's is banking on someone throwing Oweh a bag of money and he'll recoup the trade's value in the 2027 compensatory formula...in that scenario Hortiz knows better than anyone whether the player can be trusted with big extension money or if he can be replaced in the up-coming draft OR let's not forget that this year's free agent class is going to feature Jaelen Philips and Trey Hendrickson amongst others so that could factor into decision...how much money Oweh can command one way or another? either the added competition in free agency will help blow up Oweh's market or will it take money off the table due to competition in the market place?

Right now my instinct tells me Oweh is a rental due to his inconsistency, he takes too many plays off IMO, but of course I will trust in whatever Hortiz decides to do because he knows the guy...it is an attractive notion to think that we are getting close to seeing the edge room that we will have for the next 2 or 3 seasons, Tuli on an extension, Oweh on an extension, Kennard on his rookie deal, and some undrafted stud edge rusher to be determined by the 2026 NFL draft...

there are some nice alternatives out there this offseason so by the same token I can see Hortiz going in a different direction too...

Did i?

Id sign him for what i said was in line with what Cooper got. Im am not willing to give him 25 mil a year and you said you were concerned his first round draft slot would make us or someone overpay. Thats what im talking about here.

He was inconsistant in Baltimore and has picked it up with us. This is strickly a Hortiz, Harbaugh and Minter call. If they feel they have him on the right track, ....sign him. If he is a possible comp pick in Hortiz eyes, then they wont.
They know better than anyone here. If he isnt starting material or an every down player in their view, then they may not want to pay him 15 mil a year but he has been here for 9-10 games? Has 7 sacks.

Maybe being traded motivated him.....who knows. Only they do.

I do believe we arent going to go after Hendrickson for 30 mil a year and Jaylen Phillips has been too injury prone....unless perhaps if Mack retires but still, 30 mil is a pile of money i doubt he spends.

[Boltjolt]

So our benchmark for resigning an edge is only if they are as good as Parsons?

Okay. Good to know. I’ll tell Hortiz to let Oweh and Tuli walk and Mack retire.

Is that what you got from that? Because that isnt what i said

[powderblueboy]

Did i?

Id sign him for what i said was in line with what Cooper got. Im am not willing to give him 25 mil a year and you said you were concerned his first round draft slot would make us or someone overpay. Thats what im talking about here.

He was inconsistant in Baltimore and has picked it up with us. This is strickly a Hortiz, Harbaugh and Minter call. If they feel they have him on the right track, ....sign him. If he is a possible comp pick in Hortiz eyes, then they wont.
They know better than anyone here. If he isnt starting material or an every down player in their view, then they may not want to pay him 15 mil a year but he has been here for 9-10 games? Has 7 sacks.

Maybe being traded motivated him.....who knows. Only they do.

I do believe we arent going to go after Hendrickson for 30 mil a year and Jaylen Phillips has been too injury prone....unless perhaps if Mack retires but still, 30 mil is a pile of money i doubt he spends.

They will make an effort to resign Oweh, it just depends on the other suitors. Good heavens, why would they not?
So he doesn't set the edge like Tuli/Mack .... pfft.

I imagine Oweh likes it here.

[Boltjolt]

They will make an effort to resign Oweh, it just depends on the other suitors. Good heavens, why would they not?
So he doesn't set the edge like Tuli/Mack .... pfft.

I imagine Oweh likes it here.

Well,....when Mack was out and Kennard filled in that spot along with....was it Murphy?..... teams were running wild on us on the edge. That does matter. He cant just be a pushover. He has his moments but havent paid too much attention to it. He doesnt start and play every down.

I remember when we were needing WRs in the draft and talking about some recievers on X, posters would talk about recievers and id mention the WR they mentioned who couldnt block and some came back with ...who gives a shit if they cant block, they are WRs.

I came back with, Harbaugh cares if they can block. And look how much Harris has played just for his blocking. Keenan can block too.

[Fouts2herbert]

Did i?

Id sign him for what i said was in line with what Cooper got. Im am not willing to give him 25 mil a year and you said you were concerned his first round draft slot would make us or someone overpay. Thats what im talking about here.

He was inconsistant in Baltimore and has picked it up with us. This is strickly a Hortiz, Harbaugh and Minter call. If they feel they have him on the right track, ....sign him. If he is a possible comp pick in Hortiz eyes, then they wont.
They know better than anyone here. If he isnt starting material or an every down player in their view, then they may not want to pay him 15 mil a year but he has been here for 9-10 games? Has 7 sacks.

Maybe being traded motivated him.....who knows. Only they do.

I do believe we arent going to go after Hendrickson for 30 mil a year and Jaylen Phillips has been too injury prone....unless perhaps if Mack retires but still, 30 mil is a pile of money i doubt he spends.

I think the most likely scenario is Tuli gets his extension this offseason, that has to be a top priority along with extending Zion...they will try and hopefully bring back Mack, Perryman, and I think Allen too...I think Oweh will be allowed to test the market, much like what happened with Ford last year, I think Hortiz will replace him with a high round Edge draft pick...that said, if they do decide to keep both Tuli and Oweh long term then I will trust their judgement there as well...Mack will be key in all of this, whether he comes back for another year or not might affect what they do with Oweh...

[powderblueboy]

I think the most likely scenario is Tuli gets his extension this offseason, that has to be a top priority along with extending Zion...they will try and hopefully bring back Mack, Perryman, and I think Allen too...I think Oweh will be allowed to test the market, much like what happened with Ford last year, I think Hortiz will replace him with a high round Edge draft pick...that said, if they do decide to keep both Tuli and Oweh long term then I will trust their judgement there as well...Mack will be key in all of this, whether he comes back for another year or not might affect what they do with Oweh...

A high end means probably the 1rst round, the 2nd/3rd reserved for improving the oline.
I haven't really looked at the draft much, but it would pretty much lock them into an edge over a DT ... and i would prefer some flexibility.

Yeah, you are right - i would trust their judgement.