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  • Boltdiehard
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    #325
    Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

    It wasnt that good. The rose colored Lances people wear confuse me still. There are ~20 better QB2s in the league.
    Lol. Come on dmac this is Trey’s opportunity and he needs our support and after watching Stick as the backup for years Lance does look pretty good. We want him to have a HUGE day for all the reasons already mentioned. Go Trey! Fuck Denver!

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    • Riverwalk
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      #326
      Originally posted by YAC View Post
      It's STUNNING how good a runner Justin Herbert has been this season.
      498 yards with a gaudy 6.0 ave, second amongst all NFL QBs this year.

      Yes, more yards than these cats:
      Lamar Jackson, 340 yards (5.4 ave)
      Jalen Hurts: 421 yards (4.0 ave)
      Drake Maye: 409 yards (4.2 ave),
      Patrick Mahomes: 422 yards (6.6 ave)
      Caleb Williams: 387 yards (5.1 ave)

      Behind only Josh Allen in total rush yards, but Herbert has a higher YPC than Allen (6.0 > 5.2)

      Historical comparisons?
      John Elway's career high: 304
      Steve Young's career high: 537 (that guy had Christian McCaffrey caliber speed and running skills)
      Vince Young had one season with a higher total than Herbert's, his rookie year with 552

      No he's not Michael Vick, Cam Newton or peak Lamar, but our boy can damn run the rock with the best in NFL history.
      The fat dad-bod QB has the highest run average this year. 😂

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      • dmac_bolt
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        #327
        Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post

        I know he won the Heisman, but I haven't followed hm, is Mendoza someone that should worry Charger fans if the Raiders take him in the draft?
        guessing but I think he will be legit
        Justin Herbert 2026 MVP Watch

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        • Fouts2herbert
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          #328
          Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

          It wasnt that good. The rose colored Lances people wear confuse me still. There are ~20 better QB2s in the league.
          He looked in command and that goes a long way...the allure with Lance is how young he still is and how much unrealized potential he still has...it's not just Charger fans, I think there are people around the league that feel he never got a proper shot with the 49ers or the Cowboys, untimely injuries derailed his development there but also the arrival of Purdy meant that Lance didn't get the extended runway he might otherwise have had...

          I hope Lance lands on his feet somewhere, if he's smart about deciding what coach to play for instead of just going for a starting gig...he needs to stay away from shit shows like the Raiders and the Jets and focus on teams like Miami and Minnesota...

          He'll be facing the Bronco #1s with 2nd string guys this week so we're not exactly doing him any favors here...
          "The author assumes no responsibility or liability for any errors or omissions in the content of this post. The information contained in this post is provided on an "as is" basis with no guarantees of completeness, accuracy, usefulness or timeliness..."​​

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          • dmac_bolt
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            #329
            Originally posted by Boltdiehard View Post

            Lol. Come on dmac this is Trey’s opportunity and he needs our support and after watching Stick as the backup for years Lance does look pretty good. We want him to have a HUGE day for all the reasons already mentioned. Go Trey! Fuck Denver!
            My comments are not going to affect his play BDH. I want him to do great. And pull off a win.
            Justin Herbert 2026 MVP Watch

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            • Velo
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              #330
              Originally posted by Topcat View Post

              Remember that Lance had a pretty decent preseason...AND there's a weak draft for QB's this year...AND there's several QB hungry teams...a 4th round comp pick for Lance is entirely possible, especially this year...
              Lance is 2-3 in five total QB starts five seasons. The Cowboys released him and he was headed to the CFL when Harbaugh decided to take a chance. He played admirably - not lights out - in a few preseason games against practice squad defenders. I don't see the market for him.

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              • Riverwalk
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                #331
                Originally posted by Boltdiehard View Post

                Lol. Come on dmac this is Trey’s opportunity and he needs our support and after watching Stick as the backup for years Lance does look pretty good. We want him to have a HUGE day for all the reasons already mentioned. Go Trey! Fuck Denver!
                I agree Boltdiehard and I thought he was very good in preseason. Just the type of mobility that could defeat a blitz heavy defense because a pocket passer has no chance against this Denver defense.

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                • Boltdiehard
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                  #332
                  Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                  My comments are not going to affect his play BDH. I want him to do great. And pull off a win.
                  I was just messin with ya and I know that. It’s not a great opportunity against that defense but if this game is close late in the 3rd quarter I believe the Broncos will tighten up. I would love that.

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                  • Riverwalk
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                    #333
                    Originally posted by Velo View Post

                    Lance is 2-3 in five total QB starts five seasons. The Cowboys released him and he was headed to the CFL when Harbaugh decided to take a chance. He played admirably - not lights out - in a few preseason games against practice squad defenders. I don't see the market for him.
                    5 starts and your verdict is in.

                    😂

                    Last year, Caleb Williams and Drake Maye looked like poor first round draft choices by the knee jerk pundits.

                    Peyton Manning led the league in interceptions and his team finished 3-13 his first season.

                    And if that isn’t convincing that QB development needs time…there’s many here that will tell you it’s all about how well his OL is playing.

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                    • Bolt4Knob
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                      #334
                      Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post

                      we might get comp picks this year (2026) and next (2027) in an entirely different way...if Chad Alexander gets a GM job this year and he's been on the short list for two years running and has helped his case even further helping Hortiz oversee two fantastic drafts. If he gets signed then we get an extra 3rd in this the 2026 draft and another 3rd in the 2027 draft as well and that draft capital can be used for trades as well...just something to keep an eye on going into this offseason, Alexander will get a good look this offseason and there is always a spot here and there that could open up and nobody is talking about...
                      good point

                      I was referencing comp picks losing free agents and signing free agents. But you are right, if Chad Alexander gets a job - that is an extra 3rd in 2026 and 2027 -- which would be huge

                      when the season is over - have to see if there are any Joe Thuney or Jonah Jackson type contracts out there teams might want to offload for a day 3 pick....

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                      • OG619FrightninLightnin
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                        #335
                        Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                        guessing but I think he will be legit
                        Bo Nix(ish)

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                        • Riverwalk
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                          #336
                          Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                          My comments are not going to affect his play BDH. I want him to do great. And pull off a win.
                          Yeah, most of us know you’re rooting just as hard for him too and your other post was just your honest assessment of what you’ve seen to date. No problem with that.

                          But to me, the Charger backup QB’s have been pocket passers in the past and someone like Heineken would be dead meat playing against Denver.m

                          Trey, on the other hand, is a welcome divergence from past backups and just the type,of mobile scrambling skill that will be the best way to counter Denver’s defense.

                          Unfortunately,Trey is,playing with backups so his performance should be measured like a one legged guy in a butt kicking contest but I think his talent gives our charger backup squad the best chance to compete.

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