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  • dmac_bolt
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    #73
    Originally posted by Riverwalk View Post
    Oh the humanity! Now poor Herbie will have to prove he’s elite without the absolute best Center, Tackles, and Guards in the league.

    On the other hand, if you choose to look at the glass half full, we’ve got cap space of $12 to $15 million more that can be spent on 1-5 players for quality and depth instead of Linderbaum.
    Bruh, you’re unredeemable, just nothing but incessant carping and criticizing our QB. You know this has gone far beyond you n me and now it’s practically the entirely of TPB and you? As you choose to live, god bless you brother.

    I am thrilled with this signing. You have grossly mischaracterized the TPB IOL Brigade’s objectives and recommendations for 2 months to be able to slide in your endless passive-aggressive swipes at Herbert. It’s lame and very very tired.
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    • Fleet 1
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      #74
      Good solid signing. Very reasonable contract. He is very solid. He isnt dominant by any means.

      Just a solid blue collar starting center. Really liked him coming into the draft. I wasnt surprised the Cowboys drafted him as at one point they really loaded up on that OL.

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      • Heatmiser
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        #75
        And some more AI input. I asked first if this was a good signing and the verdict was yes, but the run game analysis was based on the former Harbaugh power scheme. So I followed up with a question about fit with McDaniel and the wide zone. If this is getting to be too much, you guys just let me know.

        Short answer: yes — Tyler Biadasz is a good signing for the Chargers, especially given their recent offensive line issues and the contract value.
        Here’s the breakdown:
        Why it’s a good move

        Clear upgrade at center
        • Biadasz replaces Bradley Bozeman, who retired after grading as PFF’s lowest-rated qualified center in 2025. [sports.yahoo.com], [nfl.com]
        • In 2025 with Washington, Biadasz ranked around 11th–12th among NFL centers by PFF and allowed just 3 sacks and 21 pressures over a near-full season. [sports.yahoo.com], [sports.yahoo.com]
        Strong value contract
        • 3 years, $30 million (~$10M AAV) is well below the top of the center market, where elite options like Tyler Linderbaum are expected to command $18–20M+ per year. [si.com], [nfl.com]
        • The Chargers get a former Pro Bowler (2022) at a mid-tier price without sacrificing cap flexibility. [sports.yahoo.com]
        Durability and experience
        • Biadasz has started at least 15 games in five straight seasons and has missed only nine games in six NFL years. [si.com], [nfl.com]
        • At 28 years old, he’s in his prime and still athletic enough for both zone and power concepts.
        Fit with Chargers’ needs
        • The Chargers ranked last in pass-block win rate and near the bottom in run blocking in 2025, leading to Justin Herbert being sacked a career-high 54 times. [bleacherreport.com]
        • Biadasz stabilizes the middle of the line and improves communication — a critical issue after Corey Linsley’s retirement and a rotating interior. [sportsgrid.com]

        Any downsides?
        • Not an elite, top-5 center — Biadasz is solid rather than dominant.
        • Doesn’t solve everything — the Chargers still need answers at both guard spots, and depth remains a concern. [heavy.com]

        Overall verdict

        Grade: A– / B+
        Biadasz may not be a superstar, but this is exactly the kind of smart, efficient signing the Chargers needed:
        • Immediate upgrade
        • Reasonable price
        • Proven starter
        • Keeps long-term cap flexibility intact
        If the Chargers follow this up by improving guard play (via free agency or the draft), this signing could end up being one of the most important moves of their offseason.
        If you want, I can also break down how he fits in Jim Harbaugh’s offense or compare him directly to other free-agent centers the Chargers could’ve pursued.

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        You said:


        please do Copilot said:

        Copilot Great — I’ll do both:
        1. how Tyler Biadasz fits Jim Harbaugh’s offense, and
        2. a direct comparison to the other top center options the Chargers realistically could have pursued.

        1. Fit in Jim Harbaugh’s Chargers Offense

        Jim Harbaugh’s offensive philosophy is very clear across Michigan, San Francisco, and now Los Angeles:
        Win up front → run with authority → protect the QB through structure, not hero ball.
        🧠 Mental & Communication Fit
        • Harbaugh offenses put heavy responsibility on the center to set protections, identify fronts, and manage combo blocks.
        • Biadasz has six years as a full-time starter in Dallas and Washington and handled protection calls for young QBs (Dak Prescott early, Jayden Daniels in 2025). [sports.yahoo.com], [nfl.com]
        • This matters for Justin Herbert after multiple seasons of line injuries and communication breakdowns that led to free rushers up the middle. [bleacherreport.com]
        Result: Immediate stabilization of protection calls — something Bozeman struggled with late in his career.
        🏃‍♂️ Run-Game Fit (Huge Plus)

        Harbaugh’s run game leans on:
        • Inside zone
        • Duo
        • Gap/power concepts
        Biadasz excels here:
        • Career-best 71.2 run-block grade in 2025 (PFF). [sports.yahoo.com]
        • Strong at combo blocks → climbing to the second level, a core requirement in Harbaugh’s scheme.
        • Not elite-athletic like Linderbaum, but far more powerful at the point of attack — which Harbaugh values.
        Result: Chargers become harder to move backward inside, especially on short-yardage plays.
        🛡 Pass Protection Fit
        • Chargers ranked last in pass-block win rate in 2025, and Herbert was sacked 54 times. [bleacherreport.com]
        • Biadasz allowed only 3 sacks and 21 pressures across a near-full season in Washington. [sports.yahoo.com]
        • He’s especially strong vs bull rushers, a major problem for the Chargers’ interior line last year.
        Result: Herbert faces less immediate A-gap pressure — the fastest way to ruin an elite QB.
        Bottom line on scheme fit

        Biadasz is not flashy — he’s exactly what Harbaugh wants.
        Reliable, physical, smart, and tough enough to survive a downhill offense.
        2. Comparison vs Other Center Options

        Here’s how Biadasz stacks up against the main alternatives the Chargers were linked to:
        Tyler Biadasz vs Tyler Linderbaum (Ravens)
        Pass protection Good Very good
        Run blocking (power) Better Good
        Athleticism Average+ Elite
        Durability Very strong Good
        Cost ~$10M AAV ~$18–20M AAV
        Harbaugh style Excellent fit Good fit
        • Linderbaum is the better pure talent.
        • But Harbaugh historically does not overpay interior OL, and the Chargers avoided tying up elite cap at center. [si.com], [nfl.com]
        Verdict: Linderbaum is better — Biadasz is far better value.
        Tyler Biadasz vs Connor McGovern (Bills)
        Age 28 32
        Durability Better Declining
        Run blocking Stronger Adequate
        Pass protection Similar Similar
        Cost ~$10M AAV ~$13–15M AAV
        • McGovern is solid but aging.
        • Biadasz is younger, stronger, and more physical, with less decline risk. [nfl.com], [sportsgrid.com]
        Verdict: Biadasz is the smarter long-term bet.
        Tyler Biadasz vs Cade Mays (Panthers)
        Experience 6-year starter Spot starter
        Ceiling Moderate Moderate
        Floor High Lower
        Cost ~$10M AAV ~$12M+ AAV
        • Mays is versatile but less proven as a full-time center.
        • Biadasz brings certainty — something the Chargers desperately need. [si.com]
        Verdict: Biadasz is clearly superior for a win-now team.
        Final Takeaway

        This signing makes perfect sense in context.
        • ✔ Immediate upgrade
        • ✔ Excellent scheme fit
        • ✔ Strong value contract
        • ✔ Stabilizes Herbert’s blind spot (interior pressure)
        • ✔ Leaves cap flexibility to fix guard spots
        If the Chargers now add even league-average guards, this move could be the foundation of a top-12 offensive line, which would be a massive swing from 2025.
        If you want, next we can:
        • Project the Chargers’ ideal OL lineup post–free agency & draft
        • Break down which guard archetypes fit best next to Biadasz
        • Or analyze how much Herbert’s efficiency should improve statistically with this change

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        You said:


        yes but how does Biadasz match with the wide zone, heavy motion offense that new OC Mike McDaniel is bringing Copilot said:

        Copilot This is a very fair question — because on the surface Tyler Biadasz does not look like the prototypical “wide‑zone center”, and yet the Chargers still targeted him specifically for Mike McDaniel’s offense. Here’s why that actually makes sense.
        How Tyler Biadasz Fits a Wide Zone + Heavy Motion Offense

        Mike McDaniel’s system (from Shanahan → McDaniel) is often misunderstood as being only about speed and athletic freaks at OL. In reality, it’s about angles, timing, and decision‑making first, then movement second.
        Biadasz checks more boxes here than people assume.
        1. What the Center Must Do in McDaniel’s System

        In a McDaniel wide‑zone offense, the center is the nerve center, not just a mover.
        Key responsibilities:
        1. Pre‑snap identification (fronts, slants, mug looks)
        2. Post‑snap leverage control
        3. Combo timing with guards
        4. Second‑level decision making
        5. Staying square while the RB presses the landmark
        This is not a “just run sideways fast” job.
        The Dolphins, 49ers, and now Chargers consistently prioritize processing speed and balance over raw 40‑time at center.
        2. Biadasz’s Athletic Profile vs the Myth of “Wide Zone Centers”

        Let’s clear up the misconception:
        ❌ Myth
        Wide zone requires a center like Jason Kelce or Tyler Linderbaum — elite athlete or bust.
        ✅ Reality
        • Wide zone requires efficient movement, not highlight‑reel movement.
        • The center often:
          • Takes short, controlled reach steps
          • Helps secure the nose
          • Hands off at the right moment
          • Climbs only when leverage is won
        Biadasz:
        • Is not elite‑athletic, but
        • Is excellent at staying square, keeping his hips aligned, and not overrunning blocks.
        • Rarely lunges or loses balance — a huge plus in wide zone where over‑pursuit kills plays.
        That’s why he consistently graded well in run blocking despite average testing numbers. [sports.yahoo.com]
        3. Why Heavy Motion Actually Helps Biadasz

        McDaniel’s offense uses:
        • Jet motion
        • Orbit motion
        • Condensed splits
        • Late shifts
        This slows down defensive keys, especially interior defenders.
        That matters for Biadasz because:
        • He wins with angles and leverage, not sudden explosiveness.
        • Motion creates false steps by linebackers, making climbs easier.
        • Defensive linemen are less likely to immediately shoot gaps when the picture keeps changing.
        In other words:
        McDaniel’s motion reduces the athletic burden on the center.
        This is a big reason Miami succeeded with multiple non‑elite athletes inside over the past few seasons.
        4. Biadasz’s Best Trait for Wide Zone: Combo Discipline

        Wide zone lives and dies by combo blocks.
        Biadasz is very good at:
        • Staying attached just long enough
        • Feeling when the guard has control
        • Climbing without abandoning leverage
        This showed up in Washington in 2025:
        • Career‑best 71.2 run‑blocking grade
        • Strong efficiency on inside and outside zone looks [sports.yahoo.com]
        He’s not flashy climbing to linebackers — but he gets there on time, which is what matters.
        5. The Real Reason the Chargers Chose Biadasz

        Here’s the key insight:
        The Chargers do not want their center to be the primary mover.

        They want:
        • Guards with more range
        • Tackles sealing the edge
        • The center to be the stabilizer
        From the Chargers’ perspective:
        • Rashawn Slater + Joe Alt handle width
        • Guards (still TBD) handle most second‑level stress
        • Biadasz anchors, directs traffic, and prevents penetration
        That’s why reports explicitly mentioned him fitting McDaniel’s offense despite not being an elite athlete. [sportsgrid.com]
        6. Pass Game Synergy (Underrated Benefit)

        Heavy motion doesn’t just affect the run game — it protects the center in pass pro too.
        Biadasz excels against:
        • Bull rushes
        • A‑gap power
        • Delayed blitzes
        McDaniel’s offense:
        • Forces defenses to declare late
        • Uses motion to reveal pressure
        • Creates half‑slide clarity for the center
        This plays directly into Biadasz’s strengths as a protections quarterback up front. [nfl.com]
        7. Where He Does Have Limits

        To be honest:
        ❌ Biadasz is not ideal if:
        • Guards can’t move
        • He’s asked to consistently reach a shaded nose 1‑on‑1
        • The offense lives exclusively in outside zone
        That’s why this signing only fully works if:
        • Chargers add at least one athletic guard
        • They mix inside zone, duo, and split‑flow concepts (which McDaniel absolutely does)

        Final Verdict: Better Than It Looks on Paper

        Biadasz is not a prototype wide‑zone center — he’s a functional one in a well‑designed system.
        Why it works:
        • Motion reduces athletic stress
        • Scheme values intelligence and leverage
        • Guards absorb most movement responsibility
        • Biadasz stabilizes protection and run fits
        Think of him as:
        The metronome, not the dancer.
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        Like, how am I a traitor? Your team are traitors.

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        • WindsorUK
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          #76
          HUGE upgrade without blowing your wad!
          I like it. More please

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          • dmac_bolt
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            #77
            Originally posted by jamrock View Post

            Exactly. Draft Pat Coogan to develop. Keep options open. The way OL prices are going having Tyler at 3/30 makes good sense.
            I was less impressed with Coogan after the combines than I was excited about the idea of him before the combines. From purely an athletic perspective, he looked in the bottom quartile in most drills to my amateur eyes.

            fun fact: Coogan accounts are what you have to get your kid if they do any work in entertainment before age 18. PITA. I think it’s just CA but not sure if it’s national. It’s to protect kids money from greedy thieving parents so it’s a very good idea. I fully support, but still a PITA.
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            • DerwinBosa
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              #78
              Originally posted by Boltx View Post
              I mean yeah of course it’s an upgrade to Bozeman, but a little underwhelming?

              I wanted nothing but the best for Herbert. Kinda over trying to find a “bargain” at this position. Now we have to hope he is fully recovered from his injuries AND use draft capital this year on a future center.

              I dunno, not super hyped about it to be perfectly honest. Will wait to see how the rest of our FA money is spent to get better picture. Hopefully we bring in the Bills OG and still draft Ioane or Pregnon. I would feel better about that.
              I'm with you on that. I think this was the time to get the best center on the market. Linderbaum is probably the best free agent center in a long time, and he's in his prime. I would have spent the money on him.

              I do think we will upgrade at both guard spots with a high draft pick and a free agent signing. Hopefully Biadasz can be good enough.

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              • Xenos
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                #79
                Officially official

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                • Xenos
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                  #80

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                  • dmac_bolt
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                    #81
                    LOVE this signing. HELL YEAH!

                    This lets them target a legit quality FA OG and not be draft-constrained to fix the IOL. Joe heard us, even if he won’t say it on tape
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                    • CanadianBoltFan
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                      #82
                      Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                      I was less impressed with Coogan after the combines than I was excited about the idea of him before the combines. From purely an athletic perspective, he looked in the bottom quartile in most drills to my amateur eyes.

                      fun fact: Coogan accounts are what you have to get your kid if they do any work in entertainment before age 18. PITA. I think it’s just CA but not sure if it’s national. It’s to protect kids money from greedy thieving parents so it’s a very good idea. I fully support, but still a PITA.
                      Agree completely. He is not the right fit and the combine exposed his lack of atthleticism. I know it is just drills but it was noticeable

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                      • madcaplaughs
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                        #83
                        Love it, went from an abysmal center to middle of the pack, maybe above average. This gives us the power to negotiate reasonably with Zion, in that he knows there's a decent veteran playing next to him. Not a rookie, or a terrible player. As well, we can wait in the draft. If we're in the 4th/6th round, and Brailsford or Jones falls, we're good on a developmental player. I like that he was given a decent contract, and that we hopped on it before he had an opportunity to get offers elsewhere.

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                        • electricgold
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                          #84
                          Thinking Fano could be the perfect OG to play along side him!!!

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