Talent Of The Team Is Overrated

[Velo]

The whole convo though.
The game has passed PR by.
This is part of the problem with the Oline.
Oh wait, TT says PR isn't going anywhere.
Since TT is Catholic, and does not lie,
that can mean that PR will retire.
That presser with Phil's youngest in tow,
what was that ?

If the team does know Phil is going to retire, or they know he is not returning to the Chargers, either by their decision or Phil's stated intention, does it make sense for him to continue to play?

[pacstud]

Who am I to fault The Supreme Trencher ?

for a bad football take...ha.ha.
jeesh one ankle injury and you're off the reservation

I'd love it if Lamp found redemption.

Magic 8 Ball says: "Signs point to NO"

[jamrock]

Secondary - Loads of talent. Goes from above average to elite when healthy.

LB corps - inside is below average talent, outside is average

DE - elite, arguably best in the game when healthy

DT - above average when healthy, average currently...good potential

QB - Ha, spin the wheel. HOF one throw, Jeff George the next.

RB - Elite talent and depth

WR - Elite #1/#2, then huge drop off to far below average

TE - Above average #1 and solid blocking TE corps

O-line - Above average when healthy; tragically bad currently with glimmers of hope for mediocrity

Punter - Good, at times very good

Kicker - Great find, and good depth lol (see above)


So saying we have talent or don't have talent or that it's an issue or non-issue seems simplistic.

Simple maybe but a good place to start. If you don’t have decent talent your expectations are different. If you have decent talent and even some superior talent than you have another problem if you’re 4-7

[dmac_bolt]

I'd love it if Lamp found redemption.

Magic 8 Ball says: "Signs point to NO"

nevermore.

[chargeroo]

Time to sell this stock. Sorry wood.

I still expect Lamp to be good.
I agree with Wood that Feeney decent with Okung and Pouncy in there.

[jamrock]

Where I disagree with almost everyone,
is how this will shake out.

Okung will be back in my view, his meds helping him manage the scary issue. Otherwise, he would never have resumed playing football !

If we need something to worry about, it ought to be Pouncey's neck.

Feeney plays better with Okung and Pouncey in tow. Pouncey or maybe Quessenberry + Lamp should help stabilize us Center/Left.

Surely Tevi or Pipkins will provide a starter at ORT.

The two players I would not retain are Schofield and TScott.

WR. LB. We cannot address this if we overinvest in Oline.

Sizzling mock on Sunday...

I agree with you about Pouncey. I actually don’t expect him back. When Lynn said his neck issues were “cumulative” and not from any one play it was telling. Pouncey knee he wasn’t gonna hold up. So he went to the Chargers and got an extension for 2020 at $9m knowing in the back of mind he might never play again.

[WesMantooth17]

I'm probably going to get heated for this. But I'll say what I have to say. The team isn't as talented as people think. The talent is overrated.

A team who is that talented doesn't get you to 4-7. A team who is that talented doesn't have trouble in the red zone. A team who is that talented doesn't rank in the bottom 10 on third down defense. A team who is that talented doesn't keep doing things that lead to disaster. If this team is so talented, then why do they have so many issues?

Injuries happen to every team. Teams who are really talented can get things done without one of their superstars. Derwin James was missed, but if the team has to depend on the presence of one guy to cover for their deficiencies, what does that say about the them?

Hailed as being so talented, many flaws were overlooked. Went 12-4 last year and had several pro bowlers. People may have been deluded about the roster the team has. The Chargers have more weakness than the organization and fans want to admit.

There's so much you can point out to why the team has a losing record. This just gives invitation for blaming fodder. Anyway, the Chargers are a team that does well when they have the juice rolling. When they're stagnant, you see results like what you are seeing showing up in the losses. I'm not taking away what the team does possess. Because the Chargers do have good talent on the roster. Just not on the level that they are proclaimed or made out to be.

Its not talent. We are talented. Yeah we have some positions that could be upgraded, so does every other team. What it boils down to is simple: COACHING. Plain and simple.

[Topcat]

I still expect Lamp to be good.
I agree with Wood that Feeney decent with Okung and Pouncy in there.

Lamp looks fairly solid when healthy...but if he gets just ONE more serious injury, then we formally induct him into the Official Injury Bust group...

[chargeroo]

Lamp looks fairly solid when healthy...but if he gets just ONE more serious injury, then we formally induct him into the Official Injury Bust group...

Agreed

[21&500]

Talent is sufficient
where do I sign up for the “injuries and coaching is the problem camp”?

[dmac_bolt]

Lamp looks fairly solid when healthy...but if he gets just ONE more serious injury, then we formally induct him into the Official Injury Bust group...

He’s already a bust. Clear another spot for him in the LAC trophy case. Forget he can’t stay on the field, when he was healthy he couldn’t beat out either of two OGs that shouldnt even be on the field.

[powderblueboy]

They were considered loaded at the end of last season - before the Pat debacle. Many considered them the most talented team in the NFL.

They've missed TWilliams - particularly since Benjamin flamed out;

however,

Williams/Allen have been banged up, they've missed Henry/Ingram for a good bit of time, & they've lacked 6 pro bowlers for most of the season: Okung, James, Pouncey, Gordon, Phillips & Rivers.


Not a mystery why the year didn't work out.