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  • DontEverGiveUp
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    Originally posted by PR#1 View Post

    What is the formula for qbr ?
    Exactly why it's not a real stat.

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    • jamrock
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      Originally posted by ChargingBolts View Post
      Tom Brady 9 of 25 90 yards 1 int 0 tds.

      Bench him

      Not clutch

      washed up
      Brady is 42 and its starting to show for sure.

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      • ChargingBolts
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        Strange, Lock had a higher qbr yet lower rating than Rivers, seems that espn puts a lot of weight on sacks because that was the only thing Lock did better than Rivers.

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        • DontEverGiveUp
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          Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post


          All I know is a QB rating over 100 is good. No idea where you got the 41.9 and you still didn't answer.

          Rivers didn't play bad overall. His first half was a little rough with the bad INT and a couple bad screen result passes but only had 9 incompletions and a few of those were throw aways.
          Could he run a couple times for a first down? Sure but that's not his game,never has been.
          2nd half he was good.
          Yep. Rivers played well enough today, no doubt.

          Meanwhile, you got Lynn out here "warming up" Tyrod on the sidelines, like the rest of this ship he's steering isn't on fire and sinking at the same time.

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          • Critty
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            Originally posted by richpjr View Post

            He is referring to the QBR rating made up by ESPN to get another dig in at Rivers.
            Dude.
            I appreciate Rivers. I'm just not blinded by some undying love of the guy as you appear to be.

            You do know Rating just rates the pass stat.
            Nothing else.
            Not the opponent you did it against. Not if a perfect TD pass is dropped or if it was butterfingered and then intercepted. Not how well the line played in front of the QB. Not if yards were stacked up in garbage time. It just rates the pass stat. It has no context or analysis. It rates the stats.

            QBR rates the players perfomance and accounts for poor o line play. Down and distance. Drops. Etc.

            Sorry this is not 2009 Rivers at age 28 who played at an MVP level behind an average o line.
            This is 38 year old 2019 Rivers and he isn't playing well enough behind an avergae o line quarter after quarter, game after game.

            Its not a shot. Rivers is not beyond reproach.
            Nobody is.

            We clearly have very different TVs because we are not watching the same game.
            And we clearly see the numbers different.
            I don't care about stats except Ws & Ls.
            I do like analytics on performance and expected value of each play.

            It just my opinion that Rivers is no longer the man. And that he always had some flaws that cost a game here and there. So no AFC West titles in 10 seasons.
            Ive seen enough on my TV. Its a good TV.
            I want to see Burrow in Bolts on my TV.


            Who has it better than us?

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            • Critty
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              Originally posted by PR#1 View Post

              What is the formula for qbr ?
              RawQBR = g(AdjustedEPA/ActionPlays)



              Who has it better than us?

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              • Boltjolt
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                Originally posted by ChargingBolts View Post
                Strange, Lock had a higher qbr yet lower rating than Rivers, seems that espn puts a lot of weight on sacks because that was the only thing Lock did better than Rivers.
                Sacks shouldn't effect a QB rating so it's flawed. I never pay attention to ESPN QB ratings if that's where he got it.
                How can they account for a bad OL?

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                • jamrock
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                  Originally posted by DontEverGiveUp View Post

                  Yep. Rivers played well enough today, no doubt.

                  Meanwhile, you got Lynn out here "warming up" Tyrod on the sidelines, like the rest of this ship he's steering isn't on fire and sinking at the same time.
                  Tyrod does that every game. He warms Rivers up on the sideline every tv TO before the offense goes back on the field. Nothing new today

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                  • PR#1
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                    Originally posted by Critty View Post

                    RawQBR = g(AdjustedEPA/ActionPlays)


                    What is g ?

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                    • FoutsFan
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                      Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post


                      All I know is a QB rating over 100 is good. No idea where you got the 41.9 and you still didn't answer.

                      Rivers didn't play bad overall. His first half was a little rough with the bad INT and a couple bad screen result passes but only had 9 incompletions and a few of those were throw aways.
                      Could he run a couple times for a first down? Sure but that's not his game,never has been.
                      2nd half he was good.
                      The QBR is a joke of a stat made up by ESPN that WAY overvalues running by a QB and significantly diminished passing by a QB. Its what ESPN uses to over hype running QB's and put down passing QB's. There are tons of articles on the web mocking it. I wouldn't put any serious consideration into that metric.

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                      • Boltjolt
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                        Originally posted by FoutsFan View Post

                        The QBR is a joke of a stat made up by ESPN that WAY overvalues running by a QB and significantly diminished passing by a QB. Its what ESPN uses to over hype running QB's and put down passing QB's. There are tons of articles on the web mocking it. I wouldn't put any serious consideration into that metric.
                        Hmm, so Tebow had a good rating on ESPN? Lol

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                        • Charge!
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                          Originally posted by Biggestfan View Post
                          Very poorly coached team. And did the defense even get 1 sack on the rookie?
                          no and never even got jersey dirty........

                          Gus should have defended him like a running mobile QB but we treated him like he was imobile like Rivers or brady......

                          we never contained...... very poor coaching when fans can coach better

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