Gordon, Bosa and Rivers - Marty Caswell Interview Cut Up

[Fleet]

Wheel and deal, TT.
Bosa for two #1's.
Trade down four spots for more bounty.
Draft AJ Epenesa.
Draft a QB late round 1.
Draft a WR. RB. OL help (IOL imv.)

I keep getting this idea that we can move Bosa to 3T. Tillery wasnt active or in backfields much....and the coach pointed that out...but he was dealing with some doubles often. And i thought he help up well 2 gapping. Is it such a bad idea to try and make him fit at NT? Put some weight on? DT's in a 1 gap 34 are often smaller than the 2 gap guys. I think he would hold up in a 1 gap 34. Better suited for 5T but he has enough technique to anchor. Bosa would drill guys from the 3T spot. Then draft a pass rusher.

[Fleet]

Agree... it might....with so many teams needing a QB:

Chargers
MIA
CIN
NE
OAK
NO
JAX
CAR
TB
PIT
CHI
TEN?
DET?
PHI?
WASH?
ATL?
BUF?
MIN?

It would be interesting to see/hear what is bing discussed in Chargers headquarters as far as money, and who the spanos's are even willing to sign?
would they pay 25-30 million for Rivers?
will they pay top dollar for Bosa???
Gordon?
Ingram?
Ekler?

They have to plan out and project the money over several years......

We all know money is the biggest factor for Spanos......

A rookie QB is cheap ....at least for 4-5 years......

Rivers and Gordon are gone. IMO. Ekeler will get a high tender. If a team wants to grab him they can give us a 2 or 1. Ingram may be easier to replace now that he is up there in age. But the thing i like about him is that he is a beast LB at his core. So i would play him at MLB on some early run down work. Put more speed on the edge with Tranquil and Nwosu. You know how some CBs convert to S when they get older and slower? I feel like Ingram could settle in at MLB later in his career. He can play zone fairly well when he drops back. Great gap awareness. And doesnt get blown out by OL. And against a guy like Derrick Henry? He wouldnt need to go low. lol

[Charge!]

We aren't trading Bosa and aren't trading up to get Burrows.

no one knows what will happen..... agree, that both are unlikely..... because history of this organiZation shows that they dont do such things......

Bosa is worth keeping because he makes other defenders like ingram better players but if we aren't willing to pay him a fortune, it would be better to trade him.....

my guess is that there will be all kinds ofd trade rumors leading up to the draft but sometime the night or day of, a surprise team like NO or NE will make an offer so amazing that CIN cannot refuse......
NFL and media would LOVE Burrow in NE or NO........ to continue those dynasties...... no one cares about CIN, SD, LA...... etc.....

[like54ninjas]

Horrible IDEA...... rarely does a QB turn out to be great when they are not the top pick or 2..........
that late first round QB will suck in the NFL........ every QB after Burrow and Tua will suck in NFL for sure..... QB's like hebert, and love will NOT get better in NFL....they will get worse..... that is fact...... no QB is better in NFL the they were in college.......

All get worse? You mean like this 2 time Super Bowl winner, SBMVP, and 1st team all-pro?
Just pointing out exceptions to every rule.

Lots of bluster comes out in your posts without much in the way of substance.

Phil Simms
College career

Simms chose to attend Division II Morehead State of the Ohio Valley Conferencein nearby Morehead.

The Morehead State Eagles ran a ball-control offense,^[2] and Simms' numbers were unspectacular—in his senior season he completed 92 of 173 passes for a 53.2% completion percentage and had six touchdown passes, 11 interceptions, and 1,229 yards.^[2] The Ohio Valley moved up to the new Division I-AA in 1978, but the Eagles went 2–6–1; they failed to make the postseason during his college career.^[2] Simms finished with 409 completions in 835 attempts for a 48.9% completion percentage.^[2] He also totalled 32 touchdowns, 45 interceptions, and a school-record 5,545 yards.^[2]

[wu-dai clan]

Horrible IDEA...... rarely does a QB turn out to be great when they are not the top pick or 2..........
that late first round QB will suck in the NFL........ every QB after Burrow and Tua will suck in NFL for sure..... QB's like hebert, and love will NOT get better in NFL....they will get worse..... that is fact...... no QB is better in NFL the they were in college.......

The "IDEA" is solely based upon Joey's signability and likelihood of holdout.

Also, I suggested things to do with the picks that involved drafting clean prospects at PON's + a relatively low investment at QB.

In January, nothing is absolute here.
3.5 months to go...

[Sb4Rivers]

I don’t think chargers have a chance at retaining Bosa long term. I do think chargers are slow to negotiation with Bosa due to holdout talk. They probably want to see if He pulls a Gordon before they show their cards.

That said, Chargers have never been a team to pay top dollar for a a marquee player.

[Fleet]

I actually think the Chargers try to do this the right way. Which is a new contract between now and the draft. He misses some camp they look terrible. Its par for the course blah blah. They need to get this right. And at least show soon that Bosa is hesitating on offers. Offer him more than Mack got. Let that get in the public eye that he is turning down that amount. Then its public opinion and lightens the burden of the Chargers 100% looking terrible. That image is so bad right now. They have to go by the book. The fans are that fragile with it.

Fuck im gonna send him mom a message. lol

[MasterOfPuppets]

...QB's like hebert, and love will NOT get better in NFL....they will get worse..... that is fact...... no QB is better in NFL the they were in college.......

I don't think you know what that word means, also, I think Brady got better, Preskot?, Wilson?

[MasterOfPuppets]

...no one cares about CIN, SD, LA...

you don't think that the NFL wants to see the whole LA thing work out?

[Boltjolt]

Rivers and Gordon are gone. IMO. Ekeler will get a high tender. If a team wants to grab him they can give us a 2 or 1. Ingram may be easier to replace now that he is up there in age. But the thing i like about him is that he is a beast LB at his core. So i would play him at MLB on some early run down work. Put more speed on the edge with Tranquil and Nwosu. You know how some CBs convert to S when they get older and slower? I feel like Ingram could settle in at MLB later in his career. He can play zone fairly well when he drops back. Great gap awareness. And doesnt get blown out by OL. And against a guy like Derrick Henry? He wouldnt need to go low. lol

I wouldn't be against the idea of Ingram at MLB but he has been here for years and they never even tried it.....even in preseason so it isn't happening .

[wu-dai clan]

All get worse? You mean like this 2 time Super Bowl winner, SBMVP, and 1st team all-pro?
Just pointing out exceptions to every rule.

Lots of bluster comes out in your posts without much in the way of substance.

Phil Simms
College career

Simms chose to attend Division II Morehead State of the Ohio Valley Conferencein nearby Morehead.

The Morehead State Eagles ran a ball-control offense,^[2] and Simms' numbers were unspectacular—in his senior season he completed 92 of 173 passes for a 53.2% completion percentage and had six touchdown passes, 11 interceptions, and 1,229 yards.^[2] The Ohio Valley moved up to the new Division I-AA in 1978, but the Eagles went 2–6–1; they failed to make the postseason during his college career.^[2] Simms finished with 409 completions in 835 attempts for a 48.9% completion percentage.^[2] He also totalled 32 touchdowns, 45 interceptions, and a school-record 5,545 yards.^[2]

The UT blowhard vibe is getting real on this board.
TPB and all posters would be well served to be more conversational...to have some actual back and forth.
Breaking news...you are not necessarily the smartest dude in the room all the time.
I too have to check myself sometimes.
Balance...please...we all have a bit of a competitive streak in us.

[sonorajim]

Horrible IDEA...... rarely does a QB turn out to be great when they are not the top pick or 2..........
that late first round QB will suck in the NFL........ every QB after Burrow and Tua will suck in NFL for sure..... QB's like hebert, and love will NOT get better in NFL....they will get worse..... that is fact...... no QB is better in NFL the they were in college.......

Brady, Brees, Aaron Rogers, Russell Wilson etc. QBs that don't have a winning record in college usually don't do well in the NFL. Those with a very good NCAA record have a shot. Many, if not most will improve mechanics and/or technique with pro coaching, quality teammates. Choosing at 1 or 2 definitely improves the odds but it's an obvious fact that it does not guaranty best 1 or 2 results.