Kiszla: Broncos-Seahawks a classic, but NFL's OT rules must change

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  • KarlC
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    #73
    Jeebus crispies, we made a joke about this yesterday, but now it's FOR REAL?!

    I'm gonna f**king puke logo

    SD guy in OZ

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    • Gwynning_Spirit
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      #74
      Originally posted by SuperCharger View Post
      STFU Broncos. Stop the other team from scoring or GTFO. Winning the fuckin coin flip doesn't win the game for you, you pizza shilling Frankenstein lookin motherfuckoloid. Maybe you should spend more time mentoring your defense too, instead of making fucktarded rap videos with your inbred, mouth-breathing dipshit brother.
      How much more rep must I spread around before I can rep this?

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      • ArtistFormerlyKnownAsBKR
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        #75
        Originally posted by sandiego17 View Post
        I get that and he's a complete tool as are all Mannings, but I don't think he's wrong.
        Well, that may be the case but he has no business wingeing about it. The equity of the OT format is a reasonable topic but should have been more fully debated and fleshed out prior to the changeover than simply within the context of how Peyton and the world were treated unfairly when he wasn't able to show his stuff in OT in the playoff loss to San Diego. Asela brings up some good points about the team surrendering the lead being at a disadvantage. Was that aspect even discussed? I kind of doubt it. It seems like the whole thing was about how coin flips are unfair (hmmm, we're still using coin flips. Maybe THAT's the problem!!) and how there was this pressing need to give everybody a chance to possess the ball. But at the end of the day if Denver and their defense are so hot to see Peyton handle balls (intentional), then maybe they ought get a stop so they can stand on the sideline and ooh and ahh while he does his thing. I'm not against a discussion of the topic, I just don't understand why it comes up only when Manning loses. No one cares if Atlanta or Kansas City don't get a guaranteed offensive possession.
        Last edited by ArtistFormerlyKnownAsBKR; 09-22-2014, 08:37 PM.

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        • Formula 21
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          #76
          Can't blame it on the D, so blame it on the coin toss.
          Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
          Let’s win one for Mack.

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          • sandiego17
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            #77
            To solve the manning issue, nfl could just decide to give the team with the QB whose head doesn't fit into a helmet properly the ball first in OT.

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            • Sec-E4
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              #78
              Broncos fan are seriously chalking it up as a Moral Victory !!

              The official Broncos Fan uniform is wrinkle free Dockers & you must have Lego man/woman hair

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              • TTK
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                #79


                Rule change effective immediately: All quarterbacks named Peyton Manning get to use a two-headed coin for all coin tosses.

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                • Kyle
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                  #80
                  Originally posted by ArtistFormerlyKnownAsBKR View Post

                  But has Hollywood ever required Denzel Washington or Harrison Ford to sit out the last reel when things got dicey and the audience prayed for a miracle from the movie's hero?
                  This line is the early leader for the Dumbest Statement of the NFL Season.
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                  • Panama
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                    #81
                    Originally posted by Sec-E4 View Post
                    Broncos fan are seriously chalking it up as a Moral Victory !!

                    The official Broncos Fan uniform is wrinkle free Dockers & you must have Lego man/woman hair
                    They can have all the moral victories they want, for all I care. Moral victories don't get you into the playoffs.
                    Adipose

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                    • KNSD
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                      #82
                      Originally posted by thelightningwill View Post
                      If they aren't counting ties, that's almost a 20 percent advantage to the team who wins the toss. If the coin-flip winner gets 60-percent of the game victories, the coin-flip loser gets only 40 percent. I think that's a pretty great advantage.
                      The didn't win the majority of the time on the first possesion. Also, the NFL changed the rules so that you have to score a TD to win on the first possession - something that didn't really happen all that much in OT.

                      Bottom Line: Play better during regular time so you don't put yourself in position to be SLIGHTLY affected by a coin toss.
                      Prediction:
                      Correct: Chargers CI fails miserably.
                      Fail: Team stays in San Diego until their lease runs out in 2020. (without getting new deal done by then) .
                      Sig Bet WIN: The Chargers will file for relocation on January 15.

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                      • Wheels
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                        #83
                        Originally posted by KNSD View Post
                        The didn't win the majority of the time on the first possesion. Also, the NFL changed the rules so that you have to score a TD to win on the first possession - something that didn't really happen all that much in OT.

                        Bottom Line: Play better during regular time so you don't put yourself in position to be SLIGHTLY affected by a coin toss.
                        Yeah the rule change was to address the perceived benefit of a team winning the toss getting a couple first downs and kicking a field goal. But a touchdown is much harder to come by and pretty much negates the benefits. If your defense causes a 3 and out in OT, you're in a great position to get a couple first downs and kick the winning field goal.

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                        • TTK
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                          #84


                          OVERTIME CAN'T PLEASE EVERYBODY

                          Do we need to change the overtime rule again?

                          That was my first question and one I pondered sarcastically on Twitter as the Seahawks were marching down the field in OT on the first drive after winning the coin toss. Marshawn Lynch secured the victory with a touchdown run and a certain star quarterback remained on the sideline.

                          @RossTuckerNFL

                          If Peyton doesn't get a chance will we have to change the OT rule again?
                          4:55 PM - 21 Sep 2014

                          I was kidding. At least I thought I was.

                          The current overtime rule was changed a few years ago after several prominent and evidently influential members of the media complained that it was unfair for a team to be able to secure the victory by winning the coin toss and subsequently driving for the clinching score. One of the examples noted during this outcry was a 2009 playoff game between the San Diego Chargers and Indianapolis Colts in which the Chargers won in overtime on the first drive after the coin toss.

                          (Note: As some have pointed out in the comments, there was also the 2010 NFC Championship game that ended when the Saints kicked a field goal in OT, not giving Brett Favre a chance to orchestrate a scoring drive. I'd argue both probably influenced the decision due to the high profile of both quarterbacks.)

                          What a shame that Manning (or Favre) didn't get a chance, "they" said. The real shame is that those people, and the NFL's Competition Committee (which inexplicably caved on the issue after saying they wouldn't), don't recognize that Manning got plenty of chances in that playoff game. Sixty minutes of them, to be exact. If he played better or took care of business during regulation, the overtime period wouldn't have been necessary. And we more than likely wouldn't have an overtime rule that more than half the people watching during the marquee late afternoon game don't fully understand.

                          Yet here we are again. The guy that has arguably been the impetus for several rules changes (2004 illegal contact emphasis after AFC Championship game loss to Patriots, 2010 OT rules after aforementioned Chargers loss, 2014 illegal contact and holding point of emphasis after Super Bowl loss) and benefited the most is at it again.

                          "They changed the rules a little bit, but it doesn't really change if you go down and get a touchdown," Manning said after the game. "It puts a premium on the coin toss. Called tails at the beginning of the game, went with it again in overtime. It was heads, and proved to be a significant call."

                          I wish Manning were kidding, but evidently he was not. The NFL literally altered the rule for his benefit on this issue and it feels as if he is still complaining about it.

                          He's not the only one, though. Lots of Bronco fans and even a prominent Denver columnist were calling for the rule to be changed again after Sunday's loss.

                          It's crazy if you ask me.

                          So crazy that they're right.

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