Electric Cars vs Gas Cars

[like54ninjas]

Technology based energy generation has improved by an order of magnitude in the last decade. I wouldn't bet on that stopping. Main impediments right now are storage and an aging and obsolete grid. Both can improve.

Well said.
Why look back to energy technologies from a 150 years ago that pollute?
We have better, cleaner, scalable technologies to move on to. Anyone want to back to no indoor plumbing, no toilet paper, no refrigeration, hunting/gathering your individual food, or hand pinned letters that that weeks to arrive? Fuck we don’t even go into the grocery store anymore. Easier to get it delivered or curbside pick-up.
I prefer to keep moving forward with the best ideas and technologies of the future. We build forward not backward.

As the older more conservative generations die off there is always less bluster to beneficial change.
Remember your parents, grandparents, or great grandparents thought rock-n-roll was the devil’s music, porn should be illegal, or any number of other social things that have proven to no large detriment to society.
It’s rarely about the facts or evidence but almost entirely about preconceived notions that already exist in that individual.
I for one haven’t listened to much new music over the last 20-25 years. My tastes stayed from my younger days and as music evolved into its next forms my brain said no thank you. This doesn’t make the newer music styles worse more just my internal preference stopped evolving.

Here’s a few ideas for California or any coastal area.
- Build desalination plants to help eliminate the drought conditions and help control sea level rise. Can also build interstate pipelines (repurpose old oil pipelines) to move clean, fresh water throughout the doubt stricken West/Midwest.
- These same desalination plants could be built on former offshore oil rigs. These could be retrofitted with deep water and wind turbines for generating energy to power them and add to the sustainable power grid.
- Use the immense unpopulated desert regions to build massive solar/wind power plants. Commercial scale solid state battery technology will greatly increase storage capacity capability.

For fuck sake, I hate the summer football doldrums.

[equivocation]

Technology based energy generation has improved by an order of magnitude in the last decade. I wouldn't bet on that stopping. Main impediments right now are storage and an aging and obsolete grid. Both can improve.

[FoutsFan]

Or get used to walking. Ca already can't meet elec demands. Never mind the demand for land & materials involved for gen & batts. Better get that hand crank gen while they are still available.

You don't have to worry about that. They have big diesel generators set to go to charge the charging stations for electric cars.

[sonorajim]

Right now you certainly have to map your route. There are several apps that can do this but the coverage is far from great. This is why I said we want to be all electric by 2025.
The investments in charging stations will be significant over the next decade. Fast charging stations are the wave of future builds.
The mileage range of EVs will increase with battery improvements. The solid state battery technology will vastly increase this.
Long way to go but it is the future everyone will have to get use to.

Or get used to walking. Ca already can't meet elec demands. Never mind the demand for land & materials involved for gen & batts. Better get that hand crank gen while they are still available.

[like54ninjas]

Besides that - the change will put our climate in control of our government instead of God! lmao

Let’s not open up that can of worms.

Hope you had a great Father’s Day weekend Roo!

[chargeroo]

Besides that - the change will put our climate in control of our government instead of God! lmao

[like54ninjas]

How would you, say, drive to Las Vegas, with an all electric fleet? I’m not anti-electric but i guess folk have to factor in stop-overs to charge? How long does a recharge take, where would you stop on the way for to recharge?

I’d like to get one electric for the family for local errands but still not sure about taking trips in one.

Right now you certainly have to map your route. There are several apps that can do this but the coverage is far from great. This is why I said we want to be all electric by 2025.
The investments in charging stations will be significant over the next decade. Fast charging stations are the wave of future builds.
The mileage range of EVs will increase with battery improvements. The solid state battery technology will vastly increase this.
Long way to go but it is the future everyone will have to get use to.

[Velo]

The future of the long-haul trucking industry is going to be electric - driverless electric. Currently, human truck drivers are limited in the number of miles they can drive per day. There is no such restriction for trucks driven by computers, which can be on the road 24/7 and deliver goods faster.

[wu-dai clan]

My Lexus Hybrid >>> your Electric Banana Boat...

[Topcat]

How would you, say, drive to Las Vegas, with an all electric fleet? I’m not anti-electric but i guess folk have to factor in stop-overs to charge? How long does a recharge take, where would you stop on the way for to recharge?

I’d like to get one electric for the family for local errands but still not sure about taking trips in one.

Yep...IMHO at least some electric vehicles are still not a viable option for long trips...by Ford's own admission, the recharge time on a new F-150 Lightning can range from 19 hours to 41 minutes...and that 41 minutes is IF you can find one of those "Fast Charging Stations"...and that's a mighty big "IF"...

lightning recharge.JPG
https://tiremeetsroad.com/2021/05/20...0-volt-outlet/

[BoltBacker]

How would you, say, drive to Las Vegas, with an all electric fleet? I’m not anti-electric but i guess folk have to factor in stop-overs to charge? How long does a recharge take, where would you stop on the way for to recharge?

I’d like to get one electric for the family for local errands but still not sure about taking trips in one.

My nephew has a Tesla and drove out from Nebraska to visit us in Vegas with no issues. Their charging network is great. I don't think the trucks will be as easy for long trips, with bigger battery packs and shorter range due to weight. It will take much longer to top them off with the big battery capacity.

Using electric trucks locally will be great. Local being fairly unrestrictive when you are talking 200-300 miles of driving. For most common users the electrics will be great and many times preferable. Ford is going to be selling these like crazy IMO.

[like54ninjas]

Yep. And it's ALL ELECTRIC:

all electric lightning.JPG

That is why it’s coming my way.
Then the woman wants another Lincoln Aviator when it goes all electric.
We want to be all electric vehicles and our home on complete renewable energy by 2025. It makes sense with the infrastructure investments in charging stations by VW, ChargePoint, Shell, etc.