2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[charger1_sj]

In trading down we could address all those positions with the right kind of players! The master key would be to get as many picks as you could in the top 4 rounds! The Rams just proved with a franchise QB and good HC a rebuild with young players if done right you could easily be a playoff team the first season!

It will not be possible to get starters from the draft alone at all those positions. Then we have many upgrades that are needed. Best thing is we now have the coaching
infrastructure needed to make a run at the SB. But it will not happen for the 2024 season.

[charger1_sj]

Is Jayden Daniels worth trading up to #5 for?

PFF's Big Board has him at #22 overall, but I've seen a lot of mocks with Daniels going to the Giants at #6. (We all know that QBs come at a premium, and Daniels will probably come off the board higher than PFF's #22 projection.)

I see five teams that are badly in need of a QB who might want to jump ahead of the Giants to get Daniels. (Plus two more that probably should replace their 2023 starting QB(s)).

6. Giants

8. Falcons
11. Vikes
12. Broncos
13. Raiders
14. Saints

16. Seahawks
20. Steelers

Which one of these teams would be willing to surrender picks to move up to #5?

IMO, the Steelers have seen enough of Kenny Pickett to know he's not a franchise QB, and backup Mason Rudolph helped them squeak into the playoffs, but was not up to the task in the Wildcard Round.

Would the Steelers' #20 pick and their 2nd and 3rd round picks - #51 & #84 - be a fair trade for the #5 pick?

The Chargers could probably get Kool-Aid at #20; or WRs Brian Thomas, Troy Franklin or Ladd McConkey; or OTs JC Latham, Amarius Mims, Troy Fautanu, Graham Barton or Tyler Guyton; or S Tyler Nubin.

Then they would have picks #37, #51, #69 and #84.

Pipe dream? Fanciful wishful thinking?

Not wishful thinking. Daniels may turn out to be one of best QBs out of this class. Someone and maybe all of the teams you listed could be willing to move up to 5 to get him.

[SAY OW 55]

Quinyon?

Yeah.

[electricgold]

It will not be possible to get starters from the draft alone at all those positions. Then we have many upgrades that are needed. Best thing is we now have the coaching
infrastructure needed to make a run at the SB. But it will not happen for the 2024 season.

Anything is possible, however I will be happy with a playoff win! Harbaugh & Hortiz will be able to build off of that for sure! What we have going for us is the high draft picks in each round! I remember when Dallas became a dynasty with Jimmy Johnson! They did it with a lot of draft picks the first two seasons, I'm looking for something similar and this seems like from top to bottom a GREAT draft to get it started! Also we have to see how many players if any the Chargers draft from Michigan! This could make a difference let's say if they drafted someone like Junior Colson, or Mike Sainristil because they know Minter's system to a "T"....

[SAY OW 55]

A Quinon Mitchell Kool-Aid Mckinstery can be Chargers picks at 5

Alt

Bowers Oudunzie Nabers cause you can see the explosiveness that inticed the Ravens with Flowers.

And I know the Ravens made an emphasis to get Jackson weapons.

So the left tackle is in place Slater like Stayley we’ll see. I’m not sure how the Ravens emphasize the right side at tackle.

Also how Pimpkins is in the run as opposed to drop back. So we shall see.

The Iowa corner is gonna surprise a lot of people how high he gets drafted. 1st white corner since Seahorn?

[Fleet 1]

Sorry is posted already.

[Boltjolt]

A Quinon Mitchell Kool-Aid Mckinstery can be Chargers picks at 5

Alt

Bowers Oudunzie Nabers cause you can see the explosiveness that inticed the Ravens with Flowers.

And I know the Ravens made an emphasis to get Jackson weapons.

So the left tackle is in place Slater like Stayley we’ll see. I’m not sure how the Ravens emphasize the right side at tackle.

Also how Pimpkins is in the run as opposed to drop back. So we shall see.

The Iowa corner is gonna surprise a lot of people how high he gets drafted. 1st white corner since Seahorn?

If we draft him we should get a 3rd round comp pick in 2025.

[SAY OW 55]

If we draft him we should get a 3rd round comp pick in 2025.

Haha.

[Boltnut]

If you cut Pipkins after 2024 you would save $4.25M not $6.75. There would be a $2.5M dead cap that we would incur. We have a new coaching staff. No telling
what they will do with Pipkins or whether he gets better or not. CB is a coveted position in the NFL. Which is contrary to what you wrote. After QB, LOT, CB and Edge
are the most important. Nobody really knows how the 3rd to 10th rated CB will do in the NFL. The point being there are more than 10 or maybe even 15-20 players
rated higher than the top CB in this class. So I don't think we will be going CB @ 5. In case of a trade down all possibilities are on the table.

Not according to Spotrac... Cap hit of $9.25 with $2.5m dead cap ($6.75 savings)
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-ange...49%2C500%2C000.

I was touting Kool-Aid 2 months ago... and getting blasted. I am one of the very few that would love to draft Kool-Aid @#10 or #11.
I've got 3 WR's, 2 DE's, 3 OT's, 1 TE, and 2 CB's (along with the 3 QB's) that are Top-14 IMO.
Which is why I'm happy trading all the way back to #14 in the draft.

If there is no trade back... then Alt is probably the player I'm taking. And Pipkins salary has no bearing on that decision. It is purely a BPA decision... which in most NFL circles, is what you do in that situation.

It looks like you and I are lock-step in our philosophies... if a trade back plus draft CB is your suggestion, I'll jump on your bandwagon. Better yet, you can jump on mine (it has been rumbling along for a couple months now)...

[SAY OW 55]

What’s funny to me is the Bears should trade back you already have a Quarterback with Fields. You add Alt with Darnell wright. Your offensive line is set.

you have DJ Moore and Cole Kmete

While getting more players.

[Fouts2herbert]

We'll see .... Harbaugh will be inheriting most of Telesco's roster year 1.

TT didn't plan for having a center in waiting for an older Linsley, there is not plan behind Slater, no plan at TE, the plan at RB is garbage, you could argue that he drafted some depth at DT in the last couple of years and maybe some ST/depth guys in the secondary, but shit, there are so many holes on the roster it really is kind of eye opening how bad the team looked without Herbert...

I think TT was hired because he drafted Herbert and maybe Slater, and way back when for KA, but outside of that he really doesn't have that much to show for his decade long tenure...I wish there was a PFF type ranking for how GMs have done in their respective drafts over a period of 5-6 years...

[sonorajim]

It will not be possible to get starters from the draft alone at all those positions. Then we have many upgrades that are needed. Best thing is we now have the coaching
infrastructure needed to make a run at the SB. But it will not happen for the 2024 season.

We basically have the same roster except C that Staley and Lombardi took to the playoffs. I expect no less of Harbaugh, Roman and Minter. Ask me about the SB then.
If we need a two year team rebuild to compete, then Harbaugh is just some fake media creation and Spanos got raped.