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  • gzubeck
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    • Jan 2019
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    Originally posted by Ghost of Quacksaw View Post
    Disclaimer Regarding Anything Draft Related That's Written in January:

    Yeah, yeah.... a lot can happen between now, and then.

    Anyway...

    It's broadly assumed at the moment that Caleb Williams (USC) will be the draft's first overall pick.

    As I understand it, Drake Maye (North Carolina) is considered next best QB prospect. Jayden Daniels (LSU) looks to be the third.

    This much I'm clear on: If the Bears-- holding the #1 selection-- don't select Caleb Williams, it will be because they traded the pick to another team that DOES take him.

    Next on the clock (currently) is Washington. Quarterback needy? Yes. Likely to take one at #2 overall? History would suggest that the answer is 'yes', but it's early, right?

    Third on the clock is New England. QB hungry? I don't see Mac Jones as their future, do you? If they don't take a QB here, they won't get a top one after trading down. So... they have to be considered "in the mix" for selecting a QB.

    Fourth is Arizona: QB hungry? Two words: Kyler Murray. Unless the Cardinals' personnel guys are absolutely NOT fans of Maye or Daniels, it isn't unreasonable to think that they'd select a QB they liked here, and officially moved on from Murray (if they can afford to.)

    Now... maybe Washington, the Patriots, or Arizona feel like they can't bypass Marvin Harrison, Jr. He is, after all, the highest ranked player on a lot of draft boards. Or they can't pass on a franchise left tackle, and want Joe Alt.

    If Drake Maye or Jayden Daniels slips to #5, the Bolts will probably have an opportunity to execute a trade down. But if no slippage takes place...

    Brock Bowers would appear to be BPA at 5, if Harrison and Caleb Williams are gone, as expected.

    The other option that stands out to me would be DL Liatu Latu (UCLA). (I'd love to see him as Tuli bookending the Bolts' D-line...)

    Anybody else figure to be in play?!? I could see possibly OT Olumuyiwa Fashanu... but only after having traded down.





    Trade up to #3 for MH2. New England is gonna draft a QB and they know dam well we aren't in the mix there so they get free picks + their QB of Choice most likely.
    Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....

    "Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh

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    • La Costa Boy
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      Originally posted by gzubeck View Post

      Trade up to #3 for MH2. New England is gonna draft a QB and they know dam well we aren't in the mix there so they get free picks + their QB of Choice most likely.
      Just say no. Too many needs. Sure he looks like a sure fire WR, but I would rather stay put (if WE don't trade down) and take a sure fire TE, OT or CB.

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      • SAY OW 55
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        • Jan 2023
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        Originally posted by charger1993 View Post

        thats a pretty big size difference, 3 inches in height, and 25 pounds in weight, its not like being off by an inch or 5 pounds. to put it in perspective Qj was 6 ft 3 208 at the combine, same size as bowers, and 27 pounds lighter. weight sounds like a big gap there doesnt it
        He’s 6-4 240 pounds.

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        • sonorajim
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          • Jan 2019
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          Originally posted by Duck of Death View Post

          Anyone have any update on Pipkins’ injury? Hopefully no news is good news. Definitely changes the board if it were anything serious. And BTW, I do think the OL is capable of more than they showed this year, Pipkins included.
          I'm not happy with Pipkins at his best. He doesn't handle top rushers one on one and his run blocking is inconsistent. No question that we can do better and probably should. He's not the only reason Herbert has been hit so much but he's part of it.
          Pip gets beat a lot. The RB / TE blocks are always looking for the guy that beat Pip when they could have helped somewhere else.

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          • blueman
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            Originally posted by sonorajim View Post

            I'm not happy with Pipkins at his best. He doesn't handle top rushers one on one and his run blocking is inconsistent. No question that we can do better and probably should. He's not the only reason Herbert has been hit so much but he's part of it.
            Pip gets beat a lot. The RB / TE blocks are always looking for the guy that beat Pip when they could have helped somewhere else.
            Yeah, ready to move on from the Pipster, at least as a starter, a failed Staley project.

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            • Leslie Grossman
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              Originally posted by electricgold View Post
              If Mack and Bosa are gone next year I wonder IF Dallas Turner would get any consideration at pick #5 or if we were to trade down a few spots? Tuli and Turner could be a good potential combo as our two rushers?
              like Turners upside because he is still 20 years old, would be in my cluster if trading down to 8-12

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              • dmac_bolt
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                • May 2019
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                “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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                • chargeroo
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                  I like Bowers a lot but if they can trade back for more picks, get a CB. We need a CB. I think that is our weakest position.

                  PS, I've seen Penix in at least half a dozen other games. He's much better than he was the other night. I don't know if it was the pressure of the big game or the pressure of the Michigan defense. He played great in his two games against my Ducks and those were big games so I suspect it was the steady pressure that got to him.
                  THE YEAR OF THE FLIP!

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                  • SAY OW 55
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                    Washington receiver Chris Polk would be perfect for Chargers. I like his game so much Bowers In the 1st round. Polk in the 3rd round works for me.

                    He would be perfect with Herbert.

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                    • Fleet 1
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                      Originally posted by Duck of Death View Post

                      Supposedly, the biggest reason he “parted ways” with the 49ers was because he couldn’t see eye to eye with the execs. I’ve read that control over personnel decisions were a driving factor. All conjecture, so who knows - bottom line is he didn’t get along with the decision makers.
                      Yeah it was like a Marty/AJ situation if i recall.

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                      • NOrvMeNow
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                        Originally posted by gzubeck View Post

                        Trade up to #3 for MH2. New England is gonna draft a QB and they know dam well we aren't in the mix there so they get free picks + their QB of Choice most likely.

                        Poor Arizona, they are stuck with the oft injured, career losing record Murray.

                        Arizona might trade that pick if Harrison isn't there, and New England's qb is .... so it would be very expensive to move up..

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                        • Ghost of Quacksaw
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                          Originally posted by blueman View Post

                          Yeah, ready to move on from the Pipster, at least as a starter, a failed Staley project.
                          Wasn't Pip drafted before Staley became HC? Pretty sure he was.

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