2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[DerwinBosa]

Understand but the protection is more so he has time to throw and get hit less in the pocket.
He can get hurt on a scramble.

Again, that's obvious. Where exactly are you going with this? Lol.

[Boltjolt]

Again, that's obvious. Where exactly are you going with this? Lol.

Where you didn't go.

You pointed out injuries as if it is the OLs fault. Agree he needs protection but more so he has time to throw. So my point isn't anymore less than yours.

Protection means better production.
You didn't mention that at all. So I guess to you I'll also say. ...obviously.

[DerwinBosa]

Sanders, Stover and Sinnot are nice pieces later in the draft if they don’t draft Bowers. The draft is completely void of TEs.
WR - the top 3 seem to be well above the rest, but there are good receivers later.
There is no RB worth Top10 consideration, not even first round imo.

That is definitely the belief among the mock draft experts, and this forum has certainly run with it. There are other interesting prospects, such as Jaheim Bell and Erick All (although it's doubtful that Harbaugh will draft him after he transferred from Michigan to Iowa, and his father didn't speak highly of Harbaugh). We shall see.

[DerwinBosa]

Where you didn't go.

You pointed out injuries as if it is the OLs fault. Agree he needs protection but more so he has time to throw. So my point isn't anymore less than yours.

Protection means better production.
You didn't mention that at all. So I guess to you I'll also say. ...obviously.

Lol. OK, yeah, because I listed all of his injuries since high school that means I was blaming the offensive line. I have no idea how he broke his leg in high school. It could have happened when he was jumping on a teammate in celebration and he landed awkwardly.

It's obvious that a bad offensive line that doesn't protect him increases his chances of getting injured. He's had quite a few injuries already so far. Who cares that the broken fingers weren't the offensive line's fault? Fewer hits in the pocket decreases chances of him getting injured. A better running game will also help in that regard, because he won't drop back to pass 45 times a game so often. You're arguing over nothing. Lol.

[Boltjolt]

Lol. OK, yeah, because I listed all of his injuries since high school that means I was blaming the offensive line. I have no idea how he broke his leg in high school. It could have happened when he was jumping on a teammate in celebration and he landed awkwardly.

It's obvious that a bad offensive line that doesn't protect him increases his chances of getting injured. He's had quite a few injuries already so far. Who cares that the broken fingers weren't the offensive line's fault? Fewer hits in the pocket decreases chances of him getting injured. A better running game will also help in that regard, because he won't drop back to pass 45 times a game so often. You're arguing over nothing. Lol.

Agree but using your logic he should never run as well.

I just listed another , better reason why he needs protection for the offense which also helps the running game,...agree, so whats the argument about?

I didn't list his high school injuries, you did. Had to mean something.

[Boltinloudguy]

That is definitely the belief among the mock draft experts, and this forum has certainly run with it. There are other interesting prospects, such as Jaheim Bell and Erick All (although it's doubtful that Harbaugh will draft him after he transferred from Michigan to Iowa, and his father didn't speak highly of Harbaugh). We shall see.

I agree with this as far as the belief of this being a weak TE class. I think it can possibly be an underrated TE class IMO. You mentioned Erik All and Bell. You also have guys like Cade Stover, Theo Johnson, Dallin Holker, AJ Barner, Jared Wiley and Brevyn Spann-Ford. I think all those guys can make an impact in different. ways.

[sonorajim]

Herbert NEEDS pass protection and a running game.


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No disagreement.
We have pretty good OL personnel. I'd invest in a quality C and at least 1 good RB prospect and/ or FA /RB.
2023 results took place under vastly different circumstances.

There are a load of coaching and training upgrades that will have a big impact on pass pro and run game.

I'm not anti rd 1 OL. I doubt the cost reward value as compared to receivers.
We'll see what Hortiz thinks and rip him a new one here if the 2024 scoring O isn't top 5.
LAC has to post more points than KC, preferably three times.

[SAY OW 55]

Jeromiah Trotter jr. Looks good. Harbaugh kind of player. I can see him being drafted and coached up by Navarro Bowman.

Also saw something that Harbaugh said in an interview he roots for the players that are playing Hardest in games.

if we are going by those logic’s we are drafting Brock Bowers. Cause he’s gonna like Brock Bowers cause he plays extremely hard.

[SAY OW 55]

Don’t be surprised if Taluise Fauaga is the first tackle taken in this draft.

[Boltjolt]

Jeromiah Trotter jr. Looks good. Harbaugh kind of player. I can see him being drafted and coached up by Navarro Bowman.

Also saw something that Harbaugh said in an interview he roots for the players that are playing Hardest in games.

if we are going by those logic’s we are drafting Brock Bowers. Cause he’s gonna like Brock Bowers cause he plays extremely hard.

He also is going to like Brenden Rice then. He may have a penchant for Roman Wilson but Rice is out there playing hard.

[SAY OW 55]

Brendan Rice is a great player. Don’t be surprised if he’s another Puka Nacua. He was great at Colorado to. Returned punts. Transferred to USC because of Caleb Williams. He does all the right things.

I also like John Franklin from Oregon fast. Speedy and makes plays.

There’s a ton of great pack 12 recievers available.

Bucky Greene running back Oregon great running back real fast skill player.

[Topcat]

Herbert NEEDS pass protection and a running game.

Injuries since high school:

1. Broken leg his junior year of high school.
2. Broken collarbone in 2017, his sophomore year of college. Missed five games.
3. Fractured rib cartilage from Week 2 through the rest of the season in 2022 (most quarterbacks would have missed games with that). Had surgery to repair a torn labrum in his left shoulder after the season.
4. Two broken fingers this past season. Missed four games after breaking his right index finger.

Yep...in other words, draft ALT...