2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[Boltjolt]

Starting to think folks around here are obsessed with trading back (back, back)

It would be nice to get an xtra pick. But imo IF Bowers is their target, id be ok at 5 if they want him that bad and dont want to miss. But at #8 would be cool too. Better actually.
We need TEs. Will use 3 in games at times and imo Parham isnt the type we need so we may draft 2 and sign one. A blocking type guy or something.
I just dont think Parham is a fit here anymore and Smartt is way undersized. He is still only 226 lbs. He has a Raider uniform in his future.

If Bowers isnt the target which id be surprised...then trade down once or twice....but not too damn far.

[Fleet 1]

Lol I meant you’re pulling ME back on the BB. I was in the front seat, then started drifting towards the sizzling sweet smell from my Naber’s grill. Now im coming back home. Bowers is a much bigger need

Gotcha. lol I love how Rome is getting bust status already. And comps to QJ. lol At least a few on twitter keep saying this. I cant seem to find the comps when i watch the film. One uses hands and massive catch radius...insane ball awareness and adjustment tp back shoulder fades....the other relies on his body and speed. Not the same guy at all. QJ cant handle Herberts velocity.

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

Starting to think folks around here are obsessed with trading back (back, back)

If it's possible to trade down no further than four or five picks, I think it's a no-brainer.

It doesn't look to me like the quality of the player taken at #8 or #9 will be any different from the player the Bolts would select if they stayed at #5.

Plus, it's even possible they would get the same player after trading as they would have taken at #5.

Now let's talk about the urgently needed trench reinforcement that can be selected with the pick(s) obtained in the trade down...

Well, you get my point.

[electricgold]

I would try to trade down as many times as possible all the way out of the first round. As long as you are getting back good value, 2nd or 3rd round picks in 2024 or 2025.

I think the quality is good in those rounds and the team needs a lot of fresh young players at so many positions. It’s possible to turn the #5 pick into 4 or 5 players, if there are trading partners.

We need better quality at OT, RB, CB, DT, FS, and TE and this is Harbaugh's first season here! You may be right! The 3rd and 4th round is going to be loaded with Talent! At the very least trade down a few spots with the intention to draft Bowers!

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

J.J. Watt was selected with the 11th overall pick in 2011, and Aaron Donald with the 13th overall pick in 2014.

I think it's safe to say that each of them outplayed his draft position.

So my question is, who's going to be *that* guy in 2024?

Who's going to be far more impactful than the pre-draft reports and workout numbers would suggest?

For the sake of discussion here, let's say that *that* player, in the opinions of Hortiz and Harbaugh, is Byron Murphy, Jr.

Absolutely NObody is talking about Murphy as a Top 5 pick. The earliest I've heard it speculated he'll be taken is in the early teens.

So would Hortiz select Murphy at #5? Or would he trade down once or twice-- say, to #10-- with the goal of selecting Murphy there?

I'm just citing Byron Murphy as an example. Feel free to make it some other prospect you're intrigued by.

[dmac_bolt]

Gotcha. lol I love how Rome is getting bust status already. And comps to QJ. lol At least a few on twitter keep saying this. I cant seem to find the comps when i watch the film. One uses hands and massive catch radius...insane ball awareness and adjustment tp back shoulder fades....the other relies on his body and speed. Not the same guy at all. QJ cant handle Herberts velocity.

I wouldn’t comp the two either, idunno. There are a lot of Odunze fans out there, I’d guess the haters have an agenda. He’s going to be a good player, I just rate MH2, Bowers and Nabers in front of him. But he’s right there - he’ll be a top-1/3 first round pick, maybe T10.

I’m pulling for Q to put in the work and emerge with a strong sophomore season. He has a lot of natural abilities to utilize, problems can be overcome thru work.

[dmac_bolt]

J.J. Watt was selected with the 11th overall pick in 2011, and Aaron Donald with the 13th overall pick in 2014.

I think it's safe to say that each of them outplayed his draft position.

So my question is, who's going to be *that* guy in 2024?

Who's going to be far more impactful than the pre-draft reports and workout numbers would suggest?

For the sake of discussion here, let's say that *that* player, in the opinions of Hortiz and Harbaugh, is Byron Murphy, Jr.

Absolutely NObody is talking about Murphy as a Top 5 pick. The earliest I've heard it speculated he'll be taken is in the early teens.

So would Hortiz select Murphy at #5? Or would he trade down once or twice-- say, to #10-- with the goal of selecting Murphy there?

I'm just citing Byron Murphy as an example. Feel free to make it some other prospect you're intrigued by.

I keep drafting Murphy at #37 in my mocks but i can’t imagine he’s on the board in Rd2 at all. Good question. I have been drafting DT in Rd in my mocks based on talent and need combining in harmony, but in real life we almost always see these guys start to go off the board earlier.

He can’t draft Murphy at 5 because he is drafting Bowers

[wu-dai clan]

LOL.
@SteveSmithSr89 says WR prospects gots to have
fluidity and pluckability.

[Lefty2SLO]

LOL.
@SteveSmithSr89 says WR prospects gots to have
fluidity and pluckability.

And . . . . . . . . . brains?

WTF is 'pluckability'? The desire to fight everyone - all the time? And to run your mouth incessantly?

[Fleet 1]

I wouldn’t comp the two either, idunno. There are a lot of Odunze fans out there, I’d guess the haters have an agenda. He’s going to be a good player, I just rate MH2, Bowers and Nabers in front of him. But he’s right there - he’ll be a top-1/3 first round pick, maybe T10.

I’m pulling for Q to put in the work and emerge with a strong sophomore season. He has a lot of natural abilities to utilize, problems can be overcome thru work.

They do. The agenda is Nabers. Not a bad agenda at all. lol If we are in 12 Personnel 60% of the time...and Keenan is on the field close to 100% of the time? Drafting WR at 5 makes one of the 2 a part time player. Then again not a bad idea with an aging Keenan. I also want QJ to evolve...but my goodness he would need to be reborn with hands. lol And we would also need to wipe clean Justins memory...as he simply doesnt trust him. Sucked seeing Justin press so hard on 3rd downs. The run game and TE play for Justin will unleash him. He has actually missed Hunter Henry imo.

[charger1_sj]

What starter is that at right tackle? Pipkins? LOL.

My point was that we don't HAVE to draft Brock Bowers with the fifth overall pick, for the very reasons you stated above. I was responding to someone who wrote that Herbert NEEDS a stud tight end. I would have responded the same if he had written that Herbert NEEDS a stud running back or wide receiver or any other position. I guess that flew over your head.

We don't have to have any single player to win a SB. QB being the most important, but we've seen teams win SB without a stud QB.

Pipkins was our starter last year. Who will start at TE? Center? CB? That's the question you have not answered, because you don't know
and you don't know for obvious reasons, we don't have a returning TE, Center or a quality CB for that matter. There are no Centers or CB
worth #5. There two OTs worth the pick, one TE, maybe 2 WRs. The question being who will make the biggest impact both next year and
down the road. Then you need to look at the prospects. Is there a 2nd or 3rd rounder that would work at ROT, WR, TE, CB that would start?

The selection problem becomes complicated when you start looking at best player at positions of need. Obviously certain positions are more
important than others. A LOT is more important for a right handed QB. We have that. We have a ROT that needs help, a TE can do that, a WR
cannot. We need to improve the running game, both a ROT and TE can help with that.

One possibility is take a ROT in the first and a WR in the 2nd. That may work. The other is take a TE in the first and CB, ROT, Center in the 2nd.
Or we trade down to get more picks. Lots of possibilities there.

[DerwinBosa]

Yep...in other words, draft ALT...

I have faith in whatever direction Harbaugh and Hortiz choose to go, but staying at fifth and drafting Alt or trading down and taking Fuaga are two of the most appealing options to me.