2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[Boltjolt]

Weird stat. First time I've seen that.
Not sure why that matters as it's not a speed drill. If anything it shows who plays fast but you can see that on tape.

So some who say the combine is a waste of time, there are several elements to see that make you notice different things.

[BigBad]

The theory is that guys who slow down have less confidence in their hands.

[Boltjolt]

The theory is that guys who slow down have less confidence in their hands.

Ah, good to know. I can see that.

[powderblueboy]

I think that would be the highest drafted OC ever. The highest drafted the last 35 years was at #14.

I don't think JPJ is the best OC prospect ever. I think he is getting over hyped.

He's very good... much better than Zach Frazier in my opinion.

If the Chargers get a mid 2nd, and move down to get him ... i wouldn't mind.

[CanadianBoltFan]

And guess who had the best time at this last year...Puka

wow. You know the importance the pro scouts and GMs will be placing on this drill

[powderblueboy]

I thought it was reported QJ ran a 4.49 at his pro day?!

Quentin Johnston, who was projected to go in the first round, had a strong Pro Day after visiting several franchises. During his pro day, he ran a 40-yard sprint in under 4.50 seconds, recording an official time of 4.49.Apr 18, 2023

Generally, pro days 40s are faster than combine 40s.

Odunze's 4.45 more impressive, along with body control and hands.

[Boltjolt]

[Topcat]

Nonsense. That's why you run the ball. We had trouble because we got into 3rd and passing situations way too much. Run the ball
and you stay away from freeing up the edge rushers to get to your QB on obvious passing downs. Plus if you got a guy like Nabors that
can get open at the snap of a finger you keep from having Herbert holding the ball for 6 seconds.

Actually, we should be doing BOTH:

1. PROTECT THE FRANCHISE by drafting/signing/coaching up solid players in pass pro.
2. RUN THE ROCK to reduce pass rush pressure and keep the LB's and SS's from stacking the box AND to dominate TOP.

[powderblueboy]

Yeah, I know... I was responding to someone who suggested Salyer @RT. That's risky IMO.
Alt is a consensus Top-10 prospect... and there are plenty of examples of college LT's converting to RT.

Linsley's illness forces a pick @center (probably 2nd round) regardless of who the 1st round pick.
If we're picking an OG in the 4th (your plan) then we're picking two picks in top-150 anyways.
Protect Salyer @RG (with a better RT) and see if he improves with better coaching/scheme.

The OL has to get better. It's kind of strange that people are already giving up on Zion and Salyer.
Meanwhile, Pipkins has had 5 years to get better. He couldn't even beat out Storm Norton (in his 3rd year no less).

Let Pipkins play swing tackle (nothing wrong with depth)... then save yourself some 2025 cap and cut him after 2024. That $6.75m could be better spent in 2025.

That was another Staley head scratching, ill fated decision.

Based on what we saw of Pipkens in week #17 when filling in for Slater,
and then them sticking Norton out at RT that final week to be beaten into a fine paste by Max Crosby;
it probably cost the Chargers the playoffs.

[Topcat]

And guess who had the best time at this last year...Puka

Speaking of fast times, there's one guy flying kind of under the radar, because he wasn't able to run the 40 at the combine due to a hammie. His personal best in the 40 is a 4.34:

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https://theathletic.com/live-blogs/senior-bowl-2024-live-updates-news-practice-notes/4FedlLbKPT9t/0xHPfxcTFo8W/

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https://www.mwcconnection.com/2024/2/8/24064286/2024-senior-bowl-stock-report-carlton-johnson-mountain-west-football

https://www.yardbarker.com/college_football/articles/nfl_combine_fresno_state_db_carlton_johnson_skips_running_due_to_injury/s1_17303_40044017

[DerwinBosa]

I'd be happy with that. Or Bowers. But prefer Nabers (or Harrison, but who I'm pretty sure Ariz is going to grab at #4). Not a fan of drafting an OT (Alt) at #5. Already have two 1st round OL picks. Drafting OL in the first round does not translate into championships. The Chiefs don't have a 1st round pick on their OL. In fact, their weakest link on the OL is the highest drafted (Jawaan Taylor) I think, a high 2nd rnd pick. There is going to some good value in the 2nd and 3rd round at OT in this draft, if they want to replace Pipkins.

Andy Reid has been a head coach for 25 years. His teams have spent two first-round picks on wide receivers (Jeremy Maclin and Freddie Mitchell with the Eagles) and none on tight ends. Reid's teams have spent nine first-round picks on defensive lineman, and traded a first-round pick for pass-rusher Frank Clark. Reid's teams have spent three first-round picks on offensive linemen, including the 2013 first overall pick on offensive tackle Eric Fisher. The Chiefs also traded a first-round pick for offensive tackle Orlando Brown.

[Topcat]

Andy Reid has been a head coach for 25 years. His teams have spent two first-round picks on wide receivers (Jeremy Maclin and Freddie Mitchell with the Eagles) and none on tight ends. Reid's teams have spent nine first-round picks on defensive lineman, and traded a first-round pick for pass-rusher Frank Clark. Reid's teams have spent three first-round picks on offensive linemen, including the 2013 first overall pick on offensive tackle Eric Fisher. The Chiefs also traded a first-round pick for offensive tackle Orlando Brown.

Well, that shows the value of the line, both O and D...